Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Helena Handbasket]

Dear Elephant Dick,

I know you think it's your right to be constantly praised, and told how "brave" and "stunning" you are. After all, you can get anyone in deep doo-doo IRL by calling them transphobes. That's some heady, delicious stuff right there. Everyone has to bow down to the Almighty YOU, or else.

Just remember - you took the photos and put those pics out there. It's not revenge porn from an ex with an axe to grind, it's not a picture taken without your knowledge when you were in a private space, or anything else that would be a violation. You did this to yourself.

If you insist on putting up more pictures in the future, because of course you will, at least get a fucking manicure first. It will be the best $20-25 you spend all week - just the pampering alone is delicious.

Yes, REAL HONEST AND FOR TRUE HE MEN (like you, dahling) get manicures, too.

XOXOXOXO Helena

P.S. Don't forget to tip the manicurist, ffs. He or she will deserve it. Wash your filthy mitts! Didn't Corona-chan teach you how important that is? YUK.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Not to sound like a broken record in the thread, but the TRA party line on the quality of SRS not vastly improving is "because the Nazis burned down all the trans surgical research from the Sex Institute!!!", as if it was the tranny library of Alexandria and not a club for gay German intellectuals many of whom were also Nazis. But that is the answer you will always get if the issue is pushed. They do not seem to consider nor care that if these were ethical or helpful procedures they would have been practiced in more places than the Nazi science clubhouse and south asian back alleys and a unified standard of care would have been developed by now. But it hasn't, because its all just extreme body modification and not necessary medicine.

I've read in more than one book that the library was burned down BECAUSE many high-ranking Nazis were already patients there. Of course, this fact would be hidden from public discourse today.

 

[behindyourightnow]

ElephantDick found us!

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If you're still lurking here ElephantDick, I suggest you read through this entire thread and the Tranny sideshows Thread. This thread will show the true state of these surgeries and the surgeons that perform them, while the Tranny sideshows thread will show you the real issues with transgender people (mental illness and cult behavior).

Oh and there are studies that show that suicides increase in Trans people AFTER they get SRS. here's one for example.

We are a TERF website now? I thought we were alt-right incels. Do I have to update my wardrobe?

Not to sound like a broken record in the thread, but the TRA party line on the quality of SRS not vastly improving is "because the Nazis burned down all the trans surgical research from the Sex Institute!!!", as if it was the tranny library of Alexandria and not a club for gay German intellectuals many of whom were also Nazis. But that is the answer you will always get if the issue is pushed. They do not seem to consider nor care that if these were ethical or helpful procedures they would have been practiced in more places than the Nazi science clubhouse and south asian back alleys and a unified standard of care would have been developed by now. But it hasn't, because its all just extreme body modification and not necessary medicine.

And they always leave out the part where the surgeon who did the first vaginoplasty went on to become a Nazi himself who gave approval for the infamous hypothermia experiments at Dachau. I guess that messes up the “heroic trans-affirming doctors being suppressed by the book-burning Nazis” narrative a little bit.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Here's an interesting post from r/phallo

This is a minor who has only just been posting trans related stuff for only a week and is not even on hormones yet. The few other things on their profile is all porn/horny shit so this is your average young pornsick TiF. I bet this kid hasn't even seen or touched a dick in real life so she's particularly prone to believing this quackery.

The Two main comments she got. Including one from ElephantDick.

Notice how neither mentioned anything about sensation. Can't groom minors by being honest about that can they.

 

[乙乙乙]

She is the queen of all Terven-kind so yes she does count. Good choice. Slaaaaay king.


I honestly don’t understand why more MtFs don’t go for the zero-depth option. It’s so much safer and will yield better looking results. You’re never gonna enjoy sex or masturbation again after SRS anyway, so if you really must do it why not the safer way?

i agree zero depth is better due to lower complications but all of the zero depth results I've seen in this thread looked even worse than the regular kind for some reason.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

And they always leave out the part where the surgeon who did the first vaginoplasty went on to become a Nazi himself who gave approval for the infamous hypothermia experiments at Dachau.

I'm gonna need a reference on that one, champ. It seems too good to be true and I want to use it to BTFO troons.
E: never mind, did some digging and found a reference, a left friendly one at that. He conducted surgeries, experimented on Jews and presented his research, escaped his punishment and died wealthy.

Erwin Gohrbandt studied medicine at the Military Medical Academy and graduated in 1917. He worked at the Charité Universitätsmedizin in Berlin. He did the initial operations on the first two transsexuals to have modern surgery.

In 1922 Magnus Hirschfeld arranged for Gohrbandt to do the castration on Dörchen Richter.

In 1931 Dr Kurt Warnekros arranged for Gohrbandt to do the castration and penectomy on Lili Elevenes (Elbe), the Danish artist.

From 1940 he worked at the Urban Hospital and was also the Medical Chief and later a general for the Luftwaffe. He also participated in lethal hypothermia experiments at Dachau Concentration Camp and in October 1942 presented a paper to the Hypothermia Conference held at the Deutscher Hof Hotel in Nuremberg. In February 1945, he was awarded the Ritterkreuz des Kriegsverdienstkeuzes (Knight's Cross of the War Merit Cross with Swords) on Hitler's personal authority. He escaped prosecution after the war, retired in 1958 and died a wealthy and respected citizen.

 

[AfghanBlue]

I'm gonna need a reference on that one, champ. It seems too good to be true and I want to use it to BTFO troons.
E: never mind, did some digging and found a reference, a left friendly one at that. He conducted surgeries, experimented on Jews and presented his research, escaped his punishment and died wealthy.

Precious BTFOpium

 

[Hepativore]

So, if a neophallus has to be amputated because of complications, then what? Do they just make a hole for what remains of the urethra and the TIF is basically left a nullo?

 

[Luke gama]

I know this is not anywhere near the most disgusting am hole, but it makes it so obvious how Troons have absolutely no muscle control, just gaping, saggy holes that will eventually crust over with scar tissue.

Vaginas don’t look like this. You could drive a truck through that tunnel.

Spoiler: Am hole

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These Amholes always look like someone tried to make a vagina solely from a drawing from someone who had never seen one in real life.

So they kind of have something that could be a clit but the rest is fucked and then next operation the doctor does the labia could possibly be identifiable but the clit and everything else is a disaster.

It's like a grotesque Mr Potato Head

Here's an interesting post from r/phallo
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This is a minor who has only just been posting trans related stuff for only a week and is not even on hormones yet. The few other things on their profile is all porn/horny shit so this is your average young pornsick TiF. I bet this kid hasn't even seen or touched a dick in real life so she's particularly prone to believing this quackery.

The Two main comments she got. Including one from ElephantDick.
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Notice how neither mentioned anything about sensation. Can't groom minors by being honest about that can they.

Now I understand why women get pissed about trans women comparing their hole to a real woman's vagina.

Their is no connection from a neopenis to a real one. The difference is just is massive.
The amount of experiences that come with a real penis that a neopenis just will never have.

I have the same experience as having a vagina as I do a neopenis because the neopenis is something so disconnected from nature.

But in that r/phallo the lies and self-deception is off the chart. This poor girl is going to get the operation and finally hook up with a man and realise that she's been totally lied to.

Sorry for the double post. But I'm just shocked reading how blatantly they will lie to a young woman.

 

[AfghanBlue]

this is insane -

A Story Of Detransitioning | Michael Knowles

Helena Kerschner, shares her story about being brainwashed and manipulated into transitioning into a man, and the way she saved herself from the radical ideo...

youtu.be

about a minute on from where i've time-linked it ( set it there so that you can see the questionnaire, which i haven't read through yet)
- she talks about how she, a mentally ill 18y/o, corrected / guided the 'nurse' regarding her T dose- due to her feelings that she needs more due to having higher estrogen levels, as evidenced by her wide hips.
heinous stuff man.

hence, she gets prescribed the top level of 100mg testoserone per week .
insane.

so glad this stuff is coming out now though

 

[batteredpancakes]

I found a sorta-based paper from Italians titled "Quality of Life After Sexual Reassignment Surgery" from around 2015.

Main points:

• Never refers to them as woman. Best I saw was 'neowoman' but were usually referred to as transsexuals and as a he.
• Massive issue with happiness in TiMs is that they are unhappy with having to do continuous care for their crotchwound.
• TiMs have extremely high expectations for SRS that the surgery could never live up to.
• It's not possible to make crotchwounds look like real vaginas.
• A common SRS complication is patients will often pee horizontally (I imagine we never hear the TiMs complain about this because they probably think that's normal).
• Post-op care a.k.a dilation is super critical for the patient to do to maintain depth but lots of TiMs have a lack of compliance. Most don't grasp that it's a forever thing.
• 58% needed repairs in some way after initial SRS.
• Only 52% manage to have Pi(Neo)V intercourse.
• Only about 25% achieve orgasm after SRS.
• Quality of Life is still significantly lower than non-trans people.

Best quotes:

• One of the major concerns of MtoF transsexuals is having the deepest vagina possible. A psychosocial consideration: the obsession with size is a typically male concern. Perhaps, this is a “genetic” reminder that remains in genetically XY neo-women?
• The transsexual patient, during his path toward intervention, creates in his imagination a “virtual vagina”, a sort of “how I wish it were”, that is often far from the reality of what can reasonably be achieved; generally, she refers to the surgeon before surgery an idea and a desire for perfection in the symmetry of the anatomy, an obsession regarding the depth of the neovagina and the need to have sensitivity so as to experience orgasm that can also clash with reality.
• Patients are often scared by this temporary outcome, and this may lead to an anxious status with worsening of Quality of Life if the surgical team has not informed the patient that it is generally a partial necrosis of the mucosa of the neoclitoris that resolve spontaneously within a few weeks. Both the patient and the surgical team have to keep calm and avoid any therapeutically aggressive behaviours.
• The “maintenance” of the neovagina is an important task given to the patient, and this can be perceived as a limitation of the QoL in the first few weeks after surgery, but the patient should learn that her neovagina requires continuous care that has to be seen as a sort of personal hygiene protocol rather than as a long medicalisation period.
• Introital stenosis (loss of depth): the stenosis of neovaginal introitus is a bad functional complication that does not allow patients to have satisfactory coital sexual activity. It is mostly due to a lack of compliance with the neovaginal expansion programme, which is not performed with the right frequency or for the period of time required daily.

To sum up in a sentence. Surgery cannot solve a mental illness.

 

[Mushroom Soup]

No disgusting pictures this time; just porn-addicted weirdos airing their fetish on Reddit.
Spoiling screenshots simply to keep everything nice and clean looking.

Spoiler: Sicko Wants a Dolphin Slit

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Complete with others agreeing with them in the comment section. Even one with a cloaca fetish.

Spoiler: Cloaca fetish

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Someone saw this post and wanted to tell everyone about their pining for a lizard slit.

Spoiler: Lizard Slit Dysphoria

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Commenter saying they would like 2 prehensile dicks.

Spoiler: Retractable Tentadicks

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These two admitting this stuff turns them on. They're close to realizing it's just a fetish, too bad they are retarded.

Spoiler: Fetish

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Even regular Transpeople think they're freaks...

Spoiler: The "normies" will judge me...

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I know a lot of people like to argue that the FTMs are unlikely to have porn/fetish motivated reasons for being trannies, but this Salmacian shit is a pretty good argument against that. There's so many woman into it.

"If my clit was actually a retractable prehensile penis I wouldn't have dysphoria" to the random.txt thread we go

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

One of the major concerns of MtoF transsexuals is having the deepest vagina possible.

Omg How more manly can you behave? Women don't care about this shit. If they do care about depth they either have a birth defect or other health problmens. But otherwise? Nope. Being concerned about genital size is what men do.

 

[Dylan]

ElephantDick, you deserve everything you got going your way for being such a massive retard, sensitive narc, and a degenerate. You will never have a sensation of erected penis being stimulated by touch, warmth or anything else. Your rotten feeble brain will never comprehend the severity of your situation. The reality will never conform to your affirmations, manifestations, and other zodiac shit you girls like so much.
But most importantly, all those evil double hittlers and tripple nazis who told you transgenderism is bad, were right all along.
Enjoy your ruined frankenstein body, you deserved it.

 

[batteredpancakes]

ElephantDick, you deserve everything you got going your way for being such a massive retard, sensitive narc, and a degenerate. You will never have a sensation of erected penis being stimulated by touch, warmth or anything else. Your rotten feeble brain will never comprehend the severity of your situation. The reality will never conform to your affirmations, manifestations, and other zodiac shit you girls like so much.
But most importantly, all those evil double hittlers and tripple nazis who told you transgenderism is bad, were right all along.
Enjoy your ruined frankenstein body, you deserved it.

Unfortunately, it seems like she listened to the people on Reddit to not come back here after her initial look so she hasn't read any of our replies. I am hoping the original snitcher says something to her again.

 

[Mushroom Soup]

ElephantDick dropped the pics.

Spoiler: Ew (NSFW)

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She's being real lenient with her 6" measurement in the previous post. It looks like in the end her neopeen gonna be around 3".

This is legitimately the worst thing I've seen on this godforsaken website and elephantdick if you're reading this I hope you sue your doctor for malpractice

 

[batteredpancakes]

I've found another fucked up research paper about a group of Chinese Plastic surgeons experimenting on human female cadavers and female dogs for a new phalloplasty technique involving using muscles from the thigh.

(I've edited this way down and with simpler language to be far more readable; here's the original)
10 fresh cadavers were dissected to assess the availability of thigh muscles for building a functional penis. 11 mongrel female dogs were also involved in the penile reconstruction surgery. The neophallus consisted of thigh muscles for the penis, a right thigh skin sheet as the neourethra, and a lower abdominal sheet with an abdominal sheath as the skin envelope and padding for the urethra.

The dogs were assessed for function after 7 months.

The size created from the muscles were sufficient to yield a nearly normal appearance of the penis in the cadavers and animal studies. The muscles cause enough stiffness to accomplish normal coitus. Tissue studies showed an intact neourethra and nearly normal muscle structure in the inner layer of the canine neopenis, except for significantly increased amount of collagen fibers and type I/III collagen ratio in the outer layer of the neopenis.

Spoiler: Phallo Surgery on a human cadaver (Very NSFW)

Spoiler: Phallo surgery on a Dog (NSFW)

Spoiler: Drawing of the cross section of the neophallus

Basically it goes skin, then fat, then muscle, then a thigh muscle sheet for the urethra.

Spoiler: Dog erection test using electrostimulation (NSFW)

This uses tetanic contraction so basically just regular muscle tensing.

Spoiler: Video of Female Dog with a Dick

I am disgusted. Poor Chinese women. Poor Dogs.
I'm gonna go have a drink.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker]

experimenting on human female cadavers

An offtop question. It it even legal to experiment on human cadavers? I guess only if the human signs certain papers during the life...? or not?

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

An offtop question. It it even legal to experiment on human cadavers? I guess only if the human signs certain papers during the life...? or not?

It's China, you think they care?

 

[batteredpancakes]

An offtop question. It it even legal to experiment on human cadavers? I guess only if the human signs certain papers during the life...? or not?

They're probably Uyghur Muslims. Wheeled in straight from the internment camps.
The Chinese Government is well known for harvesting organs from them so I'd be very surprised if they weren't Uyghurs.