Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[The Nothingness]

I can picture Mike and Rich die inside a little more.
https://collider.com/star-trek-picard-season-3-cast-levar-burton-jonathan-frakes-gates-mcfadden/

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Besides, I think it was quite obvious that the Qs know humans are gonna evolve into something more eventually and they are ok with it, or rather, they have accepted it's inevitable.

The most common fan theory is that the Q's are humanity in its final form. That;s why Q is so interested in us.

Nothing in the cannon supports this but it works for me as I dig the circular fate thingie.

 

[ProfDongs]

I can see it already, they are going to end up on the Enterprise bridge in uniform all manning stations with a 202X rendition of the TNG theme. It won't be a full episode of that but there will be a moment. Patrick Stewart says he was against it in the beginning but bags of money talk. Just make Q do it if he's not murdered/written out/regular cast and it would make sense as a little thing he might actually do, and then even if any of those things happened to him make him do it anyway because no one cares about the writing. Now just watch Gates push for Wil Wheaton..

 

[White Devil]

Calling it now, you can quote me later. They're going to pull a Enterprise because of how unpopular Picard is and the last episode of the series we're going to find out it was all a holodeck or Q snaps his fingers and brings time back to Picard's retirement.

 

[Lithos]

I can picture Mike and Rich die inside a little more.
https://collider.com/star-trek-picard-season-3-cast-levar-burton-jonathan-frakes-gates-mcfadden/

Calling it now, you can quote me later. They're going to pull a Enterprise because of how unpopular Picard is and the last episode of the series we're going to find out it was all a holodeck or Q snaps his fingers and brings time back to Picard's retirement.

I predict more they're going to either kill all the characters in some big "noble sacrifice", Burnham comes from the future and saves them all, or Picard dies (after a sacrifice), and all his memories and stuff get transferred to Soji, who then becomes a Starfleet Captain because... reasons. And they spin off a new show from that.

But really, I have no idea what's going to happen. They already announced their intentions that they're "breaking with canon in big ways for seasons 3". So, whatever.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I can see it already, they are going to end up on the Enterprise bridge in uniform all manning stations

I actually think that Alex can't wait to change the timeline so his critics will stop showing clips or gifs of TNG.

You get the sense the writers would be perfectly fine with the franchise taking place in 2022, with Picard fighting off waves of Freedom Convoys and Space Muslims.

 

[AnOminous]

The way he was written bounces between whiny loser and know-it-all. Is there an actor on the planet that could somehow make such a character likeable?

Probably not an actor who is also, himself, a whiny loser and know-it-all.

 

[ComStar]

Kim Cattrall took some tasteful nudes on the bridge of the Enterprise-A; Leonard Nimoy confiscated and "destroyed" them.

And here i thought his "music" albums were his biggest crime against humanity... the swine!

 

[Screamer]

Not watching this show, only watching the RLM reviews, but what's with the whole Q giving that girl depression? Is he trying to stop humanity from reaching the stars like the Borgs? He's fucking Q, he can just bring all the borgs to modern day Earth with a snap and murder us all. Or, dunno, start a plague, a war, just make the whole planet blow up. He doesn't need to play those games. Q plays games for other reasons (and he was in fact punished for it by the Continuum.)

Q seems to have lost his powers to snap his fingers. In episode 4 he tries to snap his fingers to make Picard's ancestor depressed. Yet nothing happens. In the next episode he's somehow her therapist. Also has magic cure for Not Soji's disease. Which it seems like he wants to exchange so Soong can cure him.

It makes no sense.

The Picard's ancestor thing was hilarious. A rundown of all the way she's a Mary Sue. "By 8 she sailed around the planet by herself, at 14 she had learned 16 languages and got a PhD in astrophysics." Shit like that. All the amazing things she has done and taught herself. She's only 24 but then they go, "depression." As if someone so crippled by depression could be so amazing at that age.

They seemed to suggest that her finding bacteria on IO unites humanity. So once again proving they have no ideas outside of watching First Contact. So if she doesn't go on the mission, that doesn't happen.

What I think happened is the series was written in 2019. It was going to be about a Trump like figure. Then covid pushed the series back and so it wasn't filmed until ear;y 2021. The first few episodes were closer to the original scripts. Once Biden won they had to change the show and that's why we're seeing a shift. Where they defaulted back onto the plot from First Contact as they have no ideas.

Depression was probably an idea on a card in the writers room.

There's also a running clock of 3 days set up in a previous episode which they seem to have forgotten about as Picard's ancestors flight isn't for 5 days.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Depression was an idea on a card in the writers room.

I'm convinced everyone in the writer's room is secretly blackpilled.

I've seen the future, brother, it is murder

 

[Miller]

The Picard's ancestor thing was hilarious. A rundown of all the way she's a Mary Sue. "By 8 she sailed around the planet by herself, at 14 she had learned 16 languages and got a PhD in astrophysics." Shit like that. All the amazing things she has done and taught herself. She's only 24 but then they go, "depression." As if someone so crippled by depression could be so amazing at that age.

I love how the writers think that having depression is "cool" and empowering. You even have Jay-El who insists that they need to stop Q from convincing her to step down. At no point they think: "Wait, you can't put someone who suffers from depression as the pilot of a space mission, right?", no no. What if she has an panic attack and messes up a maneuver, blowing up the whole thing (like in the training program)? The entire mission will be a disaster and since it's not taking place in a post-scarcity future, the space program could be put on hold because they lost millions (if not billions) in this mission.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

They seemed to suggest that her finding bacteria on IO unites humanity. So once again proving they have no ideas outside of watching First Contact. So if she doesn't go on the mission, that doesn't happen.

This is fucking ridiculous. Haven't we already found bacteria in space? Water on Mars? No one life's gonna change because they find bacteria somewhere outside Earth. The only thing that unified us was that the arrival of the Vulcans because they brought solutions for our then problems.

I love how the writers think that having depression is "cool" and empowering. You even have Jay-El who insists that they need to stop Q from convincing her to step down. At no point they think: "Wait, you can't put someone who suffers from depression as the pilot of a space mission, right?", no no. What if she has an panic attack and messes up a maneuver, blowing up the whole thing (like in the training program)? The entire mission will be a disaster and since it's not taking place in a post-scarcity future, the space program could be put on hold because they lost millions (if not billions) in this mission.

The funniest part is that he knows what depression even is and how debilitating it can be for people when he didn't even know what a migraine was. I am sure depression isn't a thing in their time.

They had a member of their crew who suffered from social anxiety and all they did was telling him "just get better lmao" (it worked, though).

 

[Screamer]

I love how the writers think that having depression is "cool" and empowering. You even have Jay-El who insists that they need to stop Q from convincing her to step down. At no point they think: "Wait, you can't put someone who suffers from depression as the pilot of a space mission, right?", no no. What if she has an panic attack and messes up a maneuver, blowing up the whole thing (like in the training program)? The entire mission will be a disaster and since it's not taking place in a post-scarcity future, the space program could be put on hold because they lost millions (if not billions) in this mission.

The notion of mental illness being cool and making you more real has been around for a while now. I first noticed it back in the MySpace days of social media when emo music was popular.

This show and Discovery both don't understand at all what is needed to be an astronaut or a Starfleet officer. They're trying to write in stand-ins for people to see themselves. Not to provide role models or aspirational characters.

They would consider having a confident and capable character to be someone no one would relate to. Not representative of anyone.

This is fucking ridiculous. Haven't we already found bacteria in space? Water on Mars? No one life's gonna change because they find bacteria somewhere outside Earth. The only thing that unified us was that the arrival of the Vulcans because they brought solutions for our then problems.

They haven't found bacteria in space yet. People assume it is there, and finding it would change nothing. There's evidence of water on Mars. Doesn't change anything. There's even frozen water on the moon. No one cares.

Any impact of alien life won't be until something complex is found. Even then, it'll be something like a space telescope detects signs of life in a faraway Exo planet's atmosphere and no one will care. Beyond, "that's interesting." Then forget or think it had already been discovered.

 

[Lithos]

They haven't found extraterrestrial bacteria, but they have found Clostridium species that can survive space by forming spore casings and going dormant. Same as the tardigrades. So while it can be demonstrated that such things could, in theory, be seeded on a rock and hurtled through space, it's surviving reentry that's a problem. I believe there's one species that can do that. Bacillus , I think.

 

[Screamer]

So they've announced most of the TNG cast is coming back for season 3.

Very odd the announce it halfway through the season and not at the end. Does this tell us something about how the reason of the season will go, their faith in it and the state of the viewing audience for the current season?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

So they've announced most of the TNG cast is coming back for season 3.

Very odd the announce it halfway through the season and not at the end. Does this tell us something about how the reason of the season will go, their faith in it and the state of the viewing audience for the current season?

It's very pathetic even if this season was a success.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

VOYAGER 6

 

[Ishtar]

It's very pathetic even if this season was a success.

Was it a success?

I suppose it is odd though.

 

[Lithos]

Was it a success?

I suppose it is odd though.

Compared to season 1, it could be viewed as such.


But then, let's compare the others:

Spoiler

Might as well hand it over to the Family Guy guy... oh wait, he's now owned by Disney, isn't he?

 

[HarryHowler]

The funniest part is that he knows what depression even is and how debilitating it can be for people when he didn't even know what a migraine was. I am sure depression isn't a thing in their time.

There's been a few cases of characters getting depression in 24th century Trek, but it's always been in response to some kind of traumatic event, like with Troi when she temporarily lost her empathic powers, Nog after one of his legs got blown off, and Torres after she found out that the Maquis had been wiped out. I'd guess that the "I'm feeling down because reasons shut up don't bother me I just want to be alone" kind of depression doesn't exist in the 24th century, but Picard probably is still aware of the general concept of it.