Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Echo_Ender]

I bet Putin is actually pretty fucking shocked at how poorly the Russian Military is doing.

He probably had memories of disciplined, well-trained cold-war Soviet troopers, properly maintained vehicles, and a decent logistics program.

But after decades of corruption and slipping standards, he's got backwater Gopnik troops that weren't ready to fight, outdated tanks that get slagged en-masse by enemy infantry, and supply convoys with flat tires.

When crazy Chechens shooting thousands of rounds in the general direction of the enemy while singing are your best troops, you lost a ton of infantry because they played in the Chernobyl dirt for no reason, and you're losing tanks because the crews drove them into lakes, you know shit is fucked.

 

[Montalbane]

Hi guys.
I am the ghost of Kyiev.

Currently I am hiding behind a bush with my Xir-Wing.
Behind me I have a milion ukrainian navy seals.
At the behest of general steiner we will stage a super counterattack against russia's most vital asset.
Their banana factories.
Don't cry for me for I will die doing what I love: killing other ukrainians to stage photo gayops.

Ethanovic Ralphowski

Over and out.

 

[RedDelicious]

Still, the conscripts are the people serving their year of mandatory military service. They aren't involved in Ukraine right now, and as far as I can tell Putin technically isn't supposed to deploy them unless there's been an actual declaration of war by Russia. Hence the incident at the start where some of them apparently were sent into Ukraine in a support capacity, and Putin had to smooth things over with the public and promise that their deployment had been a mistake and they'd been withdrawn.

Honestly, I'm just wondering why they did it at all. You don't send a bunch of fresh-faced recruits into a warzone by 'accident', and it was only ever going to end badly.

 

[KingElizabeth]

Honestly, I'm just wondering why they did it at all. You don't send a bunch of fresh-faced recruits into a warzone by 'accident', and it was only ever going to end badly.

I'd be willing to believe that Putin isn't micromanaging every detail of a 150~mil population country like it's Hearts of Iron, and think there's more than enough bureaucrats politicians generals and every inbetween imaginable that someone, somewhere, did in fact deploy some conscripts by mistake; only a small group got sent out. And as soon as it was discovered, they admitted the mistake and withdrew them.
Sounds like a genuine mistake to me.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Honestly, I'm just wondering why they did it at all. You don't send a bunch of fresh-faced recruits into a warzone by 'accident', and it was only ever going to end badly.

Wouldn't be surprised if the generals did that to try and get more manpower, they know attacking Ukraine with only 175 to 200 thousand odd troops can't work out, and this was before Russia downgraded it's goals to not attempting to take Kiev and other northern regions and just focusing on Donbass and likely just holding onto Kherson to prevent a supply route from Crimea being cut

 

[JambledUpWords]

 

[Disheveled Human]

Thanks for confirming. Have a good night. Your posts don’t come across as aloof or emotionally distant, that affectation is pretty hollow considering the seething walls of text.

The irony of you criticizing anyone for getting invested in shit that doesn’t directly involve them is so rich it has an offshore account in the Bahamas.

Retarded Nigger Russian Tank operator stops for gas and becomes one with the ground.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

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Lol Moldovas army has like 4000 people and their air force has maybe 3 aircraft or so. Good luck with that.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

They did it, the stupid fucking sons of a bitches actually did it, they dug trenches in the fucking Red Forest. Those guys are going to be lucky to make it to 60.

 

[bread n circuses]

Retarded Nigger Russian Tank operator stops for gas and becomes one with the ground.
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Man you really are bad at this whole “trolling pol tards” thing. You just look unhinged and mad lol.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Man you really are bad at this whole “trolling pol tards” thing. You just look unhinged and mad lol.

Yep you got me man you are right, on a side note, here is another Ukrainian tractor adding a BTR to their collection.

 

[Ward]

You just look unhinged and mad lol.

he aint?

 

[cumster]

wow, you really need to know russian and listen to info put out by people like Пякин to get an understanding of what this war is for russia, otherwise it's normies thinking they're smarter than other normies and arguing with each other with retarded takes
yes, I'm calling you normies, because the arguments both sides provide is just "my propaganda vs your propaganda" (pro-ukies believe western lies, pro-russians believe russian lies) - AKA not any different from actual normies
although looking at the informational war that's on right now, the west is lying far, far more than russia is, and the narrative the west is pushing is almost exactly the same one they've been pushing regarding "muh 6 million jews" after WW2 - not looking good at all for anyone in the long run, might actually turn into WW3

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

Are they gonna teach kids about the 6 gorillion who died in the Bucha hoholocaust?

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

They did it, the stupid fucking sons of a bitches actually did it, they dug trenches in the fucking Red Forest. Those guys are going to be lucky to make it to 60.
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Jfc. Poor bastards.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Jfc. Poor bastards.

Don't think anyone has died yet from radiation poisoning, but it should be stated just what trenches mean, people don't just dig it and stand in it, they sleep near or in the trench, and they fucking eat and drink near or in the trench too. I doubt command actually told them to take precautions too.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

wow, you really need to know russian and listen to info put out by people like Пякин to get an understanding of what this war is for russia, otherwise it's normies thinking they're smarter than other normies and arguing with each other with retarded takes
yes, I'm calling you normies, because the arguments both sides provide is just "my propaganda vs your propaganda" (pro-ukies believe western lies, pro-russians believe russian lies) - AKA not any different from actual normies.

Not going to lie, this is why I'm not commenting much in this thread -- only lurking. There are many posters I like getting pretty "bish boom bah" cheerleading for one side or another, as well as copious baitposting, which is strangely encouraged on the farms despite it shitting up A&N threads (but A&N threads "are already shit" according to some users).

Waiting for the mud of war to clear, which isn't consistent or following any timelime. Honestly, I'm wondering if it will ever truly clear and we only get one side's version of events?

 

[Bush King]

The Russian soldiers involved in this aren't actually conscripts to my knowledge. They're the "professional" soldiers who signed up for the military. Though I'm going to go out on a limb and guess a lot of them signed up because they had few other options.

Still, the conscripts are the people serving their year of mandatory military service. They aren't involved in Ukraine right now, and as far as I can tell Putin technically isn't supposed to deploy them unless there's been an actual declaration of war by Russia. Hence the incident at the start where some of them apparently were sent into Ukraine in a support capacity, and Putin had to smooth things over with the public and promise that their deployment had been a mistake and they'd been withdrawn.

Which would be hilariously hypocritical of Putin to invade another country in what he insists is a "special operation", only to turn around and whine about acts of war when the "special operation" goes badly enough that the invaded country is instead bombing bases and other military targets in Russia to eliminate the threat to themselves.

He'd still do it of course. Being able to justify a general mobilization is probably one of his best options to rescue the military situation in Ukraine.

Most of Russia's troops haven't been conscripts for a while now, but they are still trained and equipped like they used to be. The soldiers in Ukraine now are the only troops Russia has able to conduct offensive operations with any reasonable tempo. This is true of any country except the US too, but Russia wants to be held to American standards as an opposing force in a multi-polar world. Most of the troops that are not in Guards or Special Forces units are mostly static, they move into areas taken by the VDV/armoured columns, set up artillery, and wait; the ones that were removed were probably the least useful of these or in areas they were ultimately not that needed. These are also probably the guys taking most of the losses right now.

A general mobilisation would neither help nor be in Russia's interest. Escalating to a general war would mean upping the stakes for Ukraine and begging for even more missile penetration strikes and those troops that would be sent in are needed to occupy the huge territory and border Russia has. They also would do nothing to help supply issues or actually win battles. Russia doesn't want or need a shooting match over plots of land, they need time to reform their mobile units to make more penetrating strikes; making the position of the largely static Ukrainian army untenable is far better than trading lives and shells.

It's patently obvious that Putin has "lost" the opening engagement in the sense that their (probable) objectives of destroying Ukrainian command and control and political resistance and defeating the forces facing Donbass failed, but a limited war can still be won. My armchair strategy at this point would be to recuperate whatever is left of the units that fought outside of Kiev then attempt a strike at Dnipro and south of Kharkov. The main army isn't going to be defeated, but making the position of the forces fighting Donbass untenable could create a situation that forces Ukraine to decide between fighting on and possibly losing half their army or agreeing to somekind of ceasefire where the Donbass is at least recognised as autonomous or something. I completely doubt Ukraine would bite or that it could be sold internationally, but that's really all Putin can hope for at this point without a complete withdrawal. If I was Sergei Shoigu I'd be shitting bricks, but no one has seen him in 2/3 weeks so maybe he's on an endless vacation right now, who knows.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

So are a bunch of dipshits sleeping in radioactive hotspots going to get the RUSSIA STRONK shitposting to stop or is that still on?

 

[borsabil]

Devastation in Ukraine

Ha just kiddin this is Libya after NATO finished liberating it

Seriously devastation in Ukraine

Ha just kiddin this is Mosul after the burgers had bombed the living fuck out of it, twice.

OK last go. Devastation in Ukraine

God damn it! Turns out this is Baghdad during America's 'precision bombing'.

Let's remember however bad you think Putler is the burgers are millions of times worse, pure fucking evil.

Americans lecturing the world on war crimes is like a pedophile giving parenting advice.