🐱 Experts warn move to calorie-labelled menus is ‘problematic’

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The labelling of calories on café, restaurant and takeaway menus will be introduced from today (6 April) in England in hopes of tackling health and obesity related-issues and and to encourage the public to make “healthier choices” when eating out.

The mandatory menu-labelling was announced by the government in May 2021 and will apply to larger businesses with 250 or more employees, but has faced mixed reviews with nutritionists and eating disorder charities worried about the potential unhealthy behaviours towards food it could cause.

Tom Quinn, director of external affairs at one of UK’s leading eating disorder charities, Beat, says: “We know from the people we support that including calories on menus can contribute to harmful eating disorder thoughts and behaviours worsening.”

The labelling legislation will mean that calories are to be displayed for customers on physical and online menus, food delivery platforms and food labels. It is being introduced as a part of the government’s wider strategy to tackle obesity in hopes of ensuring people are making more informed choices when eating food out or ordering takeaways.

The government estimates that overweight and obesity-related health conditions cost the NHS around £6.1 billion each year. They add that almost two-thirds (63 per cent) of adults in England are overweight or obese, as are one in three children when they leave primary school.

Former Public Health Minister, MP Jo Churchill, says: “Our aim is to make it as easy as possible for people to make healthier food choices for themselves and their families, both in restaurants and at home. That is why we want to make sure everyone has access to accurate information about the food and drink we order.”

With the COVID-19 pandemic highlighting the impact that obesity can have on people’s health, the government say introducing measures like these will form “building blocks” to “support and encourage people in achieving and maintaining a healthier weight.” But, charities say that not enough research has been done to see if encouraging calorie-counting will make a substantial difference.

Mr Quinn adds that the charity is “extremely disappointed” in the government’s move to make calorie-labelled menus mandatory despite evidence that it can cause anxiety and stress for people with eating disorders.

He continues: “It can increase a fixation on restricting calories for those with anorexia or bulimia, or increase feelings of guilt for those with binge eating disorder. There is also very limited evidence that the legislation will lead to changed eating habits among the general population.”

A study by Oxford and Cambridge universities found that calorie labelling reduced the amount of calories a person consumed by just 12 per cent, and a survey by Vita Mojo and Kam Media found that only 21 per cent of consumers think that the labelling will have a positive effect on the nation’s obesity levels.

Rhiannon Lambert, certified nutritionist for Pho, author and founder of Rhitrition, also worries about the potential impact of introducing mandatory calorie labels.

She says that while it may help people to make more informed decisions about what they are eating, for people who already have an eating disorder or disordered eating, the introduction of calories to menus may only “exacerbate” their situation.

She adds: “It may further encourage negative thoughts and lead to them choose the lowest calorie option, when this may be below what the body requires to function optimally.

“It is important to remember that calories are not everything when it comes to the food we consume. Using calories may be problematic as they are determined using an outdated calculation, which doesn’t consider people’s age, their size, or their physical activity levels, which may greatly influence a person’s daily calorie intake.

“You may wish to use these numbers as a tool but it is important to remember that they are not the ultimate answer to defining a healthy lifestyle.”

Fitness and nutrition expert, Penny Weston, agrees. She says: “The information may be helpful to members of the public to make it clear which are the healthier choices when eating out but equally, I would say the benefits are not clear cut

“Eating healthily is not just about counting calories. While helpful in some ways, people shouldn’t be obsessing about sticking to calorie limits as it really does depend on your own health and diet.

“All calories aren’t equal in terms of how they are treated in the body and the effects on people’s health. For example, calories in protein-rich foods will help you stay full for longer, whereas sugary processed foods may have similar calories but they have little nutritional value.”

It is estimated that 1.25 million people in the UK have an eating disorder with the pandemic exacerbating the country’s mental health crisis. Mr Quinn adds: “Beat has continually asked the Government to consider the impact on people affected by eating disorders and to take an evidence-based approach when creating health policies. This should involve consulting eating disorder clinicians and experts by experience at every stage of the process.”

Ms Lambert says “eating out, and food in general, is often about spending time with friends and family, enjoyment, and pleasure. The option to see the numbers should be available but is not necessary for some people, as it may encourage an unhealthy relationship with food.”
 
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I see no literal downsides to this.

People who were going to get a large fry were probably going to get it as their order anyway despite the calorie count listed on the side of the menu. Plus, calorie counts are insanely helpful for people who use apps that track their calories or are just trying to live slightly healthier.
 
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If your research article starts with the word "experts" then it is automatically BS.
 
One of the weirdest aspects f the 2010s and 2020s is how journo and activist types completly switch their position on obesity from what they held during the 2000s.
Because I remember they were the ones who were pushing for calorie menu info back during the ;ate 2000s not anyone else.
Was that initial push for calorie counts a result of the Supersize Me documentary? I remember that the documentary had quite a bit of sway on public opinion, even after a bunch of people called bullshit and tried the McD diet for themselves.

I don't remember HAES being much of a thing until Tumblr came around in the early 2010s and started to make people think that being obese had 0 consequences to their overall health (and shouting down anyone who pointed out that obesity does, in fact, shorten your lifespan quite a bit).
 
I like the calorie count listed. It stops me from making stupid choices. I wish they'd list the sodium and sugar too.
“All calories aren’t equal in terms of how they are treated in the body and the effects on people’s health. For example, calories in protein-rich foods will help you stay full for longer, whereas sugary processed foods may have similar calories but they have little nutritional value.”

Then you go down the slippery slope of greasy fried meats being labeled as "healthy" because it's protein. Have another bucket of fried chicken! The protein will help you build muscle as you waddle to the fridge for another three litre.
 
Someone with an eating disorder should try helping themselves if they want to get better. The entire world shouldn't have to go out of its way to coddle them. Having a mental issue that revolves around something as essential as food sucks. Don't see all you can eat buffets being banned to prevent binge eating disorder. Know what would really help those with eating disorders? Not having 24/7 anxiety porn.

That would hurt the news station profits, though. Yeah, I'm aware I just contradicted myself.
 
You would be in the Minority, usually the opposite occurs and people see a 600 Calorie salad and an 800 Calorie Burger meal and say "Fuck it, the burger meal isn't that far off"

This is retarded though, there is more to diet than calories. I would imagine a 700 calorie salad is healthier for you than a 650 calories burger. I guess it depends on what is on the salad, but not all food types are equal.
 
The mandatory menu-labelling was announced by the government in May 2021 and will apply to larger businesses with 250 or more employees, but has faced mixed reviews with nutritionists and eating disorder charities worried about the potential unhealthy behaviours towards food it could cause.

Tom Quinn, director of external affairs at one of UK’s leading eating disorder charities, Beat, says: “We know from the people we support that including calories on menus can contribute to harmful eating disorder thoughts and behaviours worsening.”
They must be paid off by restaurant business lobbyists or something. There's no reason not to put calories on menus unless you're a restaurant serving hideously unhealthy food. It contributes to eating disorders? Really? Choosing not to eat at your restaurant because a bowl of mac and cheese is somehow 3000 calories is a disorder?

Next we need to require calories on all alcohol, because people will gladly drink a six pack which could end up being like 1200+ calories not caring about the health impacts but if you tell them lol fat suddenly they'll care.
 
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They say calorie labels reduce average calorie consumption by "just" 12%, as if 12% isn't a huge improvement. If I reduced my calorie intake by 12%, that alone would drop me from "slightly fat" to a solidly healthy weight.

So weaselly.
 
This is retarded though, there is more to diet than calories. I would imagine a 700 calorie salad is healthier for you than a 650 calories burger. I guess it depends on what is on the salad, but not all food types are equal.
Yeah, you are splatting numbers on the page and expecting people who know none of the context to parse them correctly, and there is also the concept that "If I am going to Mcdonald's it is probably unhealthy anyways" and seeing the difference in Calories between a Salad Slathered in Dressing with Eggs, Ham and other stuff vs a Burger is not very much the average person just says "Eh fuck it."

it doesn't help that McDonalds play Faggotry games with their "calculators" like displaying the Calories of the salad online with ONLY the Vinnegrette and not Ranch or something.
 
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A study by Oxford and Cambridge universities found that calorie labelling reduced the amount of calories a person consumed by just 12 per cent,
That’s pretty significant though isn’t it? Quick back of envelope here. Let’s take a bloke who eats 2000 kcal a day and burns the same. Now he eats an extra 12 percent a day, 240 without burning it. That’s errrr 240x 365 which is 87,640kcal a year. If there’s 3500kcal in a pound of fat, that’s about 25lb in a year. That’s pretty damn significant. Reducing your calorie count by 12% is huge.
I go out for dinner so seldom that I don’t really care what the calories counts are, but I think it’s a good idea to label stuff. Amused by the idea of the average British takeaway calculating how many kcal are in their wares though.
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Great point, sounds like we need more nutritional data provided, not just calories.
This is what I’d like to see.

I remember when I started trying to lose some weight, and there’s obvious calories to cut like sodas and desserts, but I remember still being quite surprised by how high in sugar or sodium a lot of “healthier” food still was. Especially fruit.

I know it’s “good” sugar, but a bottle of apple juice and a bottle of Coke aren’t that different in sugar content.

People say “all you have to do is make sure calories in equals calories out” and that is technically true - but there’s a lot more involved to count calories AND still feel full AND still get enough vitamins and watch cholesterol and blood sugar, etc. More information in easier to understand formats makes that easier.
 
I think adding calories to the menu has helped me make better choices.

Like if you're thinking about two options and one is 700 calories and the other is 1200 calories, then hey, go for the healthier choice.

Only a HAES fatty would oppose this.
The only way it's at all problematic is because fat fucks who eat 4000+ calories a day want to do so in bliss ignorance without having that one little extra reminder on the package making them face their guilt and uselessness.

I find calories on packages incredibly helpful. I'm very sedentary, so I have to watch what I eat or I'll balloon into Ethan Ralph. Calories help give me a "fuel budget" to work with numerically. It's much easier to maintain your weight if you have nearly exact numbers to work with.
 
The only way it's at all problematic is because fat fucks who eat 4000+ calories a day want to do so in bliss ignorance without having that one little extra reminder on the package making them face their guilt and uselessness.
This is as stupid as smokers saying it's "problematic" to have warnings on cigarette packaging because it triggers them. (Okay those countries where they actually put pictures of necrotizing lungs and shit on them are going a little far, but. . .)
 
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40% of people are now obese, but less than 1% are underweight. Yeah, being underweight is that rare. Why is there this pervasive myth that anorexia is super common and everyone is at risk for it? You have to have certain personality traits to really be at risk for it, because it's a complex issue that you don't just "catch" from seeing the amount of calories in something.
 
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