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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Allegedly captured plan of action for RF troops for some place in Mariupol, indicated route, troops used etc. At the bottom it states "to introduce confusion, advancing group needs to be dressed in multicam BDUs with Ukrainian national guard insignia."

Not that it matters, but I was under the impression that all combatants need to be identified as such with the insignia of the army they are in. Does dressing in your opponents uniforms cool by whatever international laws etc?

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Can someone shoot Orban please? Little shit weasel deserves it.

Vlad gave him 2billion line of credit, so he really don't need to pay for anything yet, plus their gas is supercheap. I bet it's just a hollow statement, like yeah, we got ruble account and we will be charging from it.

He doesn't have a stash of rubles so it's probably will be the same as EU paying for their gas, they open two bank acounts, one in Euros, one in rubles, put money into Euro account, Russians "transfer" into rubles account that is withdrawn ... it's just a shell game.
 
That article was posted during the last week of March but it might be worth to mention if it had gone under the radar. After they defended the Illinois nazis, the ADL defends Ukraine's neo-nazis. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62981 ( https://archive.ph/Mjsgw )

The Anti-Defamation League, the leading pro-Israel lobbying group in America, published a Q&A defending Ukraine's neo-Nazi groups on the grounds that they "don't attack Jews or Jewish institutions."

In an article titled, "Why is Putin Calling the Ukrainian Government a Bunch of Nazis?" the ADL interviewed David Fishman, professor of Jewish History at The Jewish Theological Seminary, to explain why Ukraine's neo-Nazis aren't so bad.

"There are neo-Nazis in Ukraine, just as there are in the U.S., and in Russia for that matter. But they are a very marginal group with no political influence and who don't attack Jews or Jewish institutions in Ukraine," Fishman said.

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"Russia has for years highlighted the activity of a marginal group of Ukrainian ultra-nationalists as a way of trying to stigmatize all of Ukraine," Fishman claimed. "Yes, some members of these ultra-nationalist groups have used Nazi insignia, made Hitler salutes, and used antisemitic rhetoric, but they are politically insignificant and in no way representative of Ukraine. The political parties which the ultra-nationalists support received just over 2 percent of the vote in the 2019 elections. Ukraine is a flawed democracy, but unquestionably a democracy, and in no way a Nazi regime."
 
"Russia has for years highlighted the activity of a marginal group of Ukrainian ultra-nationalists as a way of trying to stigmatize all of Ukraine," Fishman claimed. "Yes, some members of these ultra-nationalist groups have used Nazi insignia, made Hitler salutes, and used antisemitic rhetoric, but they are politically insignificant and in no way representative of Ukraine. The political parties which the ultra-nationalists support received just over 2 percent of the vote in the 2019 elections. Ukraine is a flawed democracy, but unquestionably a democracy, and in no way a Nazi regime."

How is any of this wrong?

They're not "defending" Ukrainian Neo-Nazis in so much as they're just pointing out that they're a small minority in the country
 
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Allegedly captured plan of action for RF troops for some place in Mariupol, indicated route, troops used etc. At the bottom it states "to introduce confusion, advancing group needs to be dressed in multicam BDUs with Ukrainian national guard insignia."

Not that it matters, but I was under the impression that all combatants need to be identified as such with the insignia of the army they are in. Does dressing in your opponents uniforms cool by whatever international laws etc?

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Vlad gave him 2billion line of credit, so he really don't need to pay for anything yet, plus their gas is supercheap. I bet it's just a hollow statement, like yeah, we got ruble account and we will be charging from it.

He doesn't have a stash of rubles so it's probably will be the same as EU paying for their gas, they open two bank acounts, one in Euros, one in rubles, put money into Euro account, Russians "transfer" into rubles account that is withdrawn ... it's just a shell game.
As far as I'm aware, impersonating enemy combatants like this constitutes a war crime.
 
As far as I'm aware, impersonating enemy combatants like this constitutes a war crime.
And War Crime punishment only works if they are enforced by other nations when those responsible are caught or killed.

Which the only thing they can do as punishment ATM is sanctions

Because Nuke Nuke.
 
Commies are like cockroaches, if you don't wipe them out entirely they will keep coming back. The king and the junta clearly didn't do a good enough job back in the day. Very sad!
It's kinda sad since when it comes to communists, Greek Communist Party is actually one of the more based ones AFAIK. They support traditional family structure and are opposed to faggotry and troon movements from what I heard.

Although these might just be Russian expats.
 
And War Crime punishment only works if they are enforced by other nations when those responsible are caught or killed.

Which the only thing they can do as punishment ATM is sanctions

Because Nuke Nuke.
Looks like Ukrainians will have to do everything by themselves.
Just more proof manlets should not be allowed to lead. Instead of "this tall to ride" it should be "this tall to govern"
They should also pass the sniff-test. That is, you put them next to children and see if candidate sniffs them.
 
Does dressing in your opponents uniforms cool by whatever international laws etc?
Depends. Doing it for shit like freedom of movement/reconaissance etc is technically legal. It only becomes a war crime if you also attack:
“It is prohibited to make use of the flags or military emblems, insignia or uniforms of adverse Parties while engaging in attacks or in order to shield, favour, protect or impede military operations.
That being said anyone captured wearing enemy uniforms is generally considered to be, and treated like a spy, rather than a POW.
 
How is any of this wrong?

They're not "defending" Ukrainian Neo-Nazis in so much as they're just pointing out that they're a small minority in the country

I've seen that, and party actually wasn't Nazi or neo-Nazi, it was pan-slavic and basically advocating preservation of slav and slav culture without calling out for any genocides or cleansing. Even then, they only got less than 2% and failed to get into parliament.

Speaking of which, petuSharij is a pro-Russian/ Ukrainian separatist blogger who created his own party. Ukraine was bending backwards trying to join EU so they had to introduce all these reforms to give voice to any and every asshole. They got 2+% and never made it to the parliament (need at least 5%), but they did made it in few Eastern parts local elections, just barely over 5% so they were represented on a local level and as such were given allowance, which is standard funding for political parties, something like 40'000 Euros which created huge outrage, but divershity is divershitty, EU wanted it as condition of joining them.


And speaking of diversity by hyper-based, uber-orthodox nation ... could of stayed and be alive

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I've seen that, and party actually wasn't Nazi or neo-Nazi, it was pan-slavic and basically advocating preservation of slav and slav culture without calling out for any genocides or cleansing. Even then, they only got less than 2% and failed to get into parliament.

Speaking of which, petuSharij is a pro-Russian/ Ukrainian separatist blogger who created his own party. Ukraine was bending backwards trying to join EU so they had to introduce all these reforms to give voice to any and every asshole. They got 2+% and never made it to the parliament (need at least 5%), but they did made it in few Eastern parts local elections, just barely over 5% so they were represented on a local level and as such were given allowance, which is standard funding for political parties, something like 40'000 Euros which created huge outrage, but divershity is divershitty, EU wanted it as condition of joining them.


And speaking of diversity by hyper-based, uber-orthodox nation ... could of stayed and be alive

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Fucking hell, that's just a kid there. Then again, we have seen passports for boys as young as 18 in this war, so I shouldn't have been that surprised
 
I've seen that, and party actually wasn't Nazi or neo-Nazi, it was pan-slavic and basically advocating preservation of slav and slav culture without calling out for any genocides or cleansing. Even then, they only got less than 2% and failed to get into parliament.

Speaking of which, petuSharij is a pro-Russian/ Ukrainian separatist blogger who created his own party. Ukraine was bending backwards trying to join EU so they had to introduce all these reforms to give voice to any and every asshole. They got 2+% and never made it to the parliament (need at least 5%), but they did made it in few Eastern parts local elections, just barely over 5% so they were represented on a local level and as such were given allowance, which is standard funding for political parties, something like 40'000 Euros which created huge outrage, but divershity is divershitty, EU wanted it as condition of joining them.


And speaking of diversity by hyper-based, uber-orthodox nation ... could of stayed and be alive

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LMAO let's see how russiaboos cope with this one
 
Hey guys idk if this is too off topic but how is this gonna affect food prices in Europe? Not to power level but let's just say that I have friends there that I am really really concerned about.
Not by a huge amount. It's going to be worse for the Russians as they can't buy shit and on top of that, they're a food exporter... but a seed importer. So they're going to have a rough time. Europe has a lot of other options to buy from other than Russia and Ukraine, and are actually on the whole, net food producers. Prices are likely going to rise on some products, but drop on others. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
Not by a huge amount. It's going to be worse for the Russians as they can't buy shit and on top of that, they're a food exporter... but a seed importer. So they're going to have a rough time. Europe has a lot of other options to buy from other than Russia and Ukraine, and are actually on the whole, net food producers. Prices are likely going to rise on some products, but drop on others. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Yeah, it's just I wouldn't call these people particularly wealthy and I care about them.
 
Of course we are talking about a different era, where mass production of tanks and rifles can win you a war - these are things Russia could do. It had the population, the resources and the industry. Today, advanced - and far more effective weapons - require technology that Russia is reliant on from the West, and while China could probably sell them it too, they are not immediately able to provide such things. Russia relies on Western technology for their avionics, their advanced computers and their precision guided munitions - cut off from this they will not be able to field the kind of high end forces which they have - albeit with poorly trained and poorly motivated soldiers who seem unable to put them to best effect. If this war bogs down, and Ukraine is kept replete with Western weapon systems then they will win, however in the near future the danger is Russia manages to inflict a defeat on the Ukrainians. I highly doubt this is something we will see though now.
When Russia can't even reverse engineer anything like the Chinese do. How did Russia get to be this pathetic?
 
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