Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

  • Total voters
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"This is a real concentration camp."


Refugees from Ukraine complain about the conditions of their stay in Germany.

They are forced to cook and clean up after themselves on their own.

But, wait a minute, this is a fucking rich Europe with European values.How could this happen?
 
You folx dont like disagreement and mockery of your pretend edgy opinions, go back to twitter.

Just quietly downdoot and cry to yourselves next time I post an opinion on how embarrasing russia and its simps are instead of spamming me with cope posts.

Im happy to stay on topic so long as everyone else here can contain their tism whenever they get contradicted.

Especially since my "ok so what do you do to further the white race IRL?" question got the exact responses I was craving.
>got the exact responses I was craving
You wanted people to laugh at you for being schizo?
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Russian liberal channels are the opposite. Our liberals (myself included) have always had dangerously xenophilic views and too much faith in the goodwill of EU and America and a distaste for homeland bordering on being unhealthy, so right now it's all wailing and gnashing of teeth over ruined economy, lack of future for the country, deplorable fascist state, North Korea-style isolation, vatnik compatriots and doomposting so thick your could cut it.

I'd like to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle, because neither of these two extremes appeals to me in the slightest.
Alright to edge back to topic, as a non ukraine supporting and non west loving russian (though not necessarily hating either), what in your opinion is the best case scenario for all parties with regards to this shitshow?
 
Russian liberal channels are the opposite. Our liberals (myself included) have always had dangerously xenophilic views and too much faith in the goodwill of EU and America and a distaste for homeland bordering on being unhealthy, so right now it's all wailing and gnashing of teeth over ruined economy, lack of future for the country, deplorable fascist state, North Korea-style isolation, vatnik compatriots and doomposting so thick your could cut it.

I'd like to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle, because neither of these two extremes appeals to me in the slightest.

Xenophilic is not a common word in the English language, and for good reason.
 
With all this sperging might as well throw my cents in the pile.

Russia isn't "winning" since they appear to have just massively reduced their war goals that accomplishing their new goals and ending things there would be a massive stretch to call it a victory, since they got table scraps to what they came in expecting.

Ukraine isn't "winning" since they still have a large amount of occupied territory, but so far they seem to have accomplished what I thought would be their best case scenario for them, that being hold on long enough and spill enough Russian soldier blood to make Russia realize that regime change or total/majority annexation of Ukraine will not be practical and cause Russia to significantly reduce it's war goals to concern Donbass and it's surrounding regions.
 
"This is a real concentration camp."


Refugees from Ukraine complain about the conditions of their stay in Germany.

They are forced to cook and clean up after themselves on their own.

But, wait a minute, this is a fucking rich Europe with European values.How could this happen?
Cook for themselves? But they're in a closed warehouse full of fucking plastic tents? One retard does something wrong and the whole thing lights up. It also looks cold as shit in there, and it's not exactly summer yet.
I guess the Krauts are about to get someone to gaschamber themselves.
 
Russian liberal channels are the opposite. Our liberals (myself included) have always had dangerously xenophilic views and too much faith in the goodwill of EU and America and a distaste for homeland bordering on being unhealthy, so right now it's all wailing and gnashing of teeth over ruined economy, lack of future for the country, deplorable fascist state, North Korea-style isolation, vatnik compatriots and doomposting so thick your could cut it.

I'd like to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle, because neither of these two extremes appeals to me in the slightest.
So basically it's like US politics where nobody has a rational nor balanced view of anything, and are shamed if they question the lack thereof.

Why the West is even involved I don't know. It's probably because poor Hunter's crack money is in danger. It's certainly not because it's got oil, and it's definitely not in our sphere of influence.

I'm completely unsympathetic to the plight of Ukraine, in part because of social media. There are no "good guys" in this fight between two corrupt shit hole countries and anyone who believes otherwise should fuck off.

Xenophilic is not a common word in the English language, and for good reason.
Tau lovers should be purged from the Imperium!

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Here's a distraction from the massive autistic shit flinging here.

OY VEY!

ITS ANNUDA SHOAH

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Yeah and Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Right?
 
Cook for themselves? But they're in a closed warehouse full of fucking plastic tents? One retard does something wrong and the whole thing lights up. It also looks cold as shit in there, and it's not exactly summer yet.
I guess the Krauts are about to get someone to gaschamber themselves.
Here's a bitterer joke: The Ukrainians are going to get full bellies and warmth through gas imported from the country that drove them out of their own homes.
 
I saw an article the other day titled something like "Russian troops torture and murder a woman before burning a swastika into her." The actual article says that one of Ukraine's ministers alleges that a woman Russia alleges was tortured by Azov was actually raped by Russian troops, and quote "neither claim can be verified." Of course the headline told a different story. If Russia IS committing atrocities and shit, fuck them, it's wrong and I'll not support them anymore myself, but I bet that every article out there claiming supposed Russian warcrimes has something buried in the article that says "btw these are just unsourced allegations we can't prove they're real."
 
Cook for themselves? But they're in a closed warehouse full of fucking plastic tents? One retard does something wrong and the whole thing lights up. It also looks cold as shit in there, and it's not exactly summer yet.
I guess the Krauts are about to get someone to gaschamber themselves.
The funny actually sad and anger-inducing thing is they were African refugees Merkel would be kicking people out of their homes to house them and funding butlers for them along with sending them (white) women to rape.
 
With all this swerving might as well throw my cents in the pile.

Russia isn't "winning" since they appear to have just massively reduced their war goals that accomplishing their new goals and ending things there would be a massive stretch to call it a victory, since they got table scraps to what they came in expecting.

Ukraine isn't "winning" since they still have a large amount of occupied territory, but so far they seem to have accomplished what I thought would be their best case scenario for them, that being hold on long enough and spill enough Russian soldier blood to make Russia realize that regime change or total/majority annexation of Ukraine will not be practical and cause Russia to significantly reduce it's war goals to concern Donbass and it's surrounding regions.
IMO were this a war between for example Belarus and Ukraine or hell Poland and Ukraine then this would be a far more clear cut stalemate example.

The fact that one of the world's supposed toppest-of-the-top tier military powers is floundering and even losing ground against what was thought to be a third rate military with piss poor morale despite enormous geographic advantages augmenting the gigantic military advantages (on paper) is what makes this scenario a "even if russia technically wins in the end of this war, strategically this is a historic loss no matter what happens now" thing solely because of how badly the flaws in russia's military have been exposed compared to other top league military powers and also due to the human/material/financial cost of the war.
 
The curse of central/eastern europe has always been its terrain, flat fields for miles always doomed it to brutal constant wars
Eastern Europes plains is a lot like the American great plains. Great farming land, and rich with resources. The curse it's lands of countless genocides. The American gift is that most of the natives were too few and the Americans too many for them to make a difference by the time we fully controlled the great plains.
I'm getting tired of this war, and to an extent this world.
Hawks trying to drag other countries into direct conflict, retarded Twitter takes being spread, i wish for a peacefull resolution to this. Because in the end, the people who suffer the most are the civilians.
The truth is Humans thrive in war we have more kids, we have never been used to this long of a period of relative peace within the west and Russia to a lesser extent. There is a reason post the babyboomers we haven't seen replacement birth rates occur in almost any western nation. Even Russia is still experiencing a decline still. Humans cans accept Peace we crave and desire conflict. Conflict is the norm for humanity without it we just become gay, soulless bugmen who sterilize ourselves this end ourselves.
 
Ukraine isn't "winning" since they still have a large amount of occupied territory, but so far they seem to have accomplished what I thought would be their best case scenario for them, that being hold on long enough and spill enough Russian soldier blood to make Russia realize that regime change or total/majority annexation of Ukraine will not be practical and cause Russia to significantly reduce it's war goals to concern Donbass and it's surrounding regions.
Alright to edge back to topic, as a non ukraine supporting and non west loving russian (though not necessarily hating either), what in your opinion is the best case scenario for all parties with regards to this shitshow?
In terms of practically achievable goals, what with the army setup, the article in Novosti around day 3 and attitudes from Russia at the time of the invasion and from supporters, myself included, the impression was that the army lined up would be able to achieve their goals were contingent on Ukrainian army collapse. That didn't happen. At this point, the absolute minimum Russia can settle with, though it'd fail at selling it as any kind of a win would be Donetsk, Lugansk and the area around Kherson. The last one is essential because otherwise they're back to square one regarding Crimea's water supply which has crippled the area around it.

For Ukraine, these places are filled with people who don't have a Ukrainian identity, have been wrecked by war for the past 8 years and who will need repairs. Giving them up will consolidate hohol identity and allow them to focus costs on repairing the losses still with them as well as keep their military and establish a permanent existence. They'll still be poor shithole, but they'll continue existing and not incur any more losses. What this needs is disavowing NATO membership, accepting neutrality, dialing down the retarded rhetoric and then negotiating from a position close to their current one where they can plausibly inflict too much harm to the Russians for them to continue without incurring too many losses. If they don't, war will go on, take a while, and while many will cope, seethe and dilate, Russia will win and take more than that, at a cost to itself and an even bigger cost on the people on that land.
 
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So basically it's like US politics where nobody has a rational nor balanced view of anything, and are shamed if they question the lack thereof.

Why the West is even involved I don't know. It's probably because poor Hunter's crack money is in danger. It's certainly not because it's got oil, and it's definitely not in our sphere of influence.

I'm completely unsympathetic to the plight of Ukraine, in part because of social media. There are no "good guys" in this fight between two corrupt shit hole countries and anyone who believes otherwise should fuck off.


Tau lovers should be purged from the Imperium!

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Yeah and Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Right?
Filthy Xenos!
 
Russian liberal channels are the opposite. Our liberals (myself included) have always had dangerously xenophilic views and too much faith in the goodwill of EU and America and a distaste for homeland bordering on unhealthy, so right now it's all wailing and gnashing of teeth over ruined economy, lack of future for the country, deplorable fascist state, North Korea-style isolation, vatnik compatriots and doomposting so thick your could cut it.

I'd like to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle, because neither of these two extremes appeals to me in the slightest.
All governments* are run by evil men who will burn in Hell and there is no king but Christ.
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*Except Belarus
 
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