General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

highlighting these two statements as they're pretty emblematic of the issue here.

Let's be real here though the # of people actually posting "unhinged rrats" regarding Niji isn't particularly large either. At worst a large portion of the people here are apathetic about Niji not actually antagonistic.

But if the folks here that do follow Niji heavily just throw their hands up and don't refute bad info then you're right, you get the thread you aim to create. You just give in to the antis. This vtuber shit aint like the other threads on this site where it's super fast and easy to find info and everyone can fact check every little thing. someone posting something incorrect about say Boogie2988 or Gunt in their threads will be quickly fact checked by that thread because everyone in the thread is keeping an eye on them.. Someone saying something incorrect about a vtuber here, when not everyone here is following that vtuber in particular, and it's not quickly accessable as there's a good chance it's not even in English, is a lot harder to fact check so to some extent it falls to the people that are watching it to set the record straight.

this whole "it's not the nijifans job to deal with niji minsinfo" logic is bafflingly stupid. who the hell else is equipped to refute it? Don't get me wrong I know it's annoying at times and I've argued some less than popular opinions in this thread before as well even specifically regarding Niji back when people here liked to pretend that NijiEN was some sort of flop or failure.

The persecution complex shit is just tired at this point, plenty of folks in this thread give you positive responses when you post about Niji content, but you get all melodramatic because Rezza says something stupid or uninformed. And you don't really help your case when nearly as often as he does, you fall to the same tribalistic bait nonsense when it suits you.

Aint sayin this to shit on you, you do genuinely put up some informative content in this thread when you aren't getting caught up in backhanded slapfights with holofans. But yeah this defeatest attitude and blaming everyone else for it just aint it chief.

I appreciate the response.

Firstly, I'd like to clear one thing up: I'm not blaming anyone. It's natural social interaction that the thing most people relate to will act as the lynchpin of discussion. In this thread, that 'thing' is Hololive, and not 'V-Tubers', so when things of interest aren't happening, it's normal for the idle discussion to be about Hololive.

As a naturally occurring symptom of this, it means that the things I personally like don't get talked about until they reach that threshold of becoming a point of interest. This is all fine and not something that I necessarily want to change, as the only remedy to this is forcing people to talk about Hololive less and Nijisanji more, and I don't like that.

In regards to my 'not my responsibility' comment, I was not saying that it isn't my responsibility to fact-check Nijisanji info, but rather that it shouldn't be my responsibility to try and unravel /vt/ rrats that get presented here as they were posted there - which I maintain is where a majority of our info comes from.

It's perfectly fine with me if I was tagged in a post that said 'Hey Scuttle, I saw this posted and wanted you to check on it', but things normally get presented here with the membrane of /vt/ schizo agenda still intact. This happens with Holo stuff too, but Holo has the luxury of most people willing to figure it out before a judgement is made, whereas others do not.

Tone is very important in changing impressions and swaying the direction of a conversation, so if people want me to act as the Niji Journalist, I only ask for people to reserve judgement on a situation until I've come back with my findings/opinions. It would certainly go some way to curb feeling like I'm fighting an uphill battle to not only correct people, but also race to get my corrections out before the unchecked doomposting/rampant speculation begins.
 
I agree with this sentiment, but I still don't want to see it. It just feels bad to watch her get upset even though I understand why she would. Hopefully they just pull it out and win so this situation can be avoided.
Aqua was one of the first Holo talents I watched; probably was my entry drug into this business overall, but I fell off watching her as her Apex grind went from being fun for her to a soulless ladder climb which made me sad, I loved watching her play but you could tell it just wasn't fun for her after awhile. Seeing the energy and vigor she's had recently for the game with Towa and Sui has made me fall for her all over again, I just know the sword of damocles is hanging over this if she loses. I still remember the Mario Kart reaction. But that's just how the cute onion is.
 
Do not touch cows or possible cows, merely record and archive. Don't make a fool of yourself, I do not care if you were joking.
I think he might have meant "trolling" in the "drag a fishing line behind the boat" sense.
Exactly. I was using the 'real world' definition of troll, "carefully and systematically search an area for something." Not the classical internet definition.

Also, resident vegan who hates preachy vegans is ranking fruits and veggies:
 
Exactly. I was using the 'real world' definition of troll, "carefully and systematically search an area for something." Not the classical internet definition.

Also, resident vegan who hates preachy vegans is ranking fruits and veggies:
I mean i feel like she's probs the more basic one out of all the holoEN girls.
as someone who loves keylime pie, based for putting in S tier

Not based for preferring green grapes
Also glad she put bananas in S tier. Banana bread is delish!
 
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Exactly. I was using the 'real world' definition of troll, "carefully and systematically search an area for something." Not the classical internet definition.

Also, resident vegan who hates preachy vegans is ranking fruits and veggies:
>Oranges in F tier

I don't know her reasoning, but I already know where I'm putting this tier list. Right in the trash where it belongs. Although that reminds me that I need to buy Sumos.
 
So many people malding over oranges being put in F-tier

Edit: her reason was that all the oranges she gets are dry and bland with very rare exception which was not enough to bring it up a tier. Meanwhile clementines have always met or exceeded her expectations.
 
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Well this caught me a bit off guard, but out of seemingly nowhere the official Twitch Twitter just thought it would randomly promote Ironmouse. I know she is/was the number 1 for female subs at least quite recently (don't know if she still is) and I think she still the biggest vtuber on Twitch but even she seems like she somewhat surprised as well. (Source of Tweet)
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Unless I'm missing something here and someone wants to fill me in...

Side note: I only just got their joke of "Earth or abroad" because of TT and all that, The running joke is that Ironmouse is secretly Chris Broad because of Connor (oh nooo, i said the cursed word) things.
 
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