Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[LeChampion1992]

I mean it was very cheap to manufacture and sell, the US stopped using them in 57' because they knew they could do better. The design and purpose of them was for WW2 and they just did not match up well against German armor. But sure in other conflicts foreign countries used them and it preformed well enough for the value. Israel used them to good effect in the Yom Kippur war of 1973 when they were fighting the sand niggers. Again if it was so amazing why did they scrap the design for a completely new build? It had weaknesses, it was not as mobile and was quickly outmatched by increasingly heavier firepower.

I mean except they did wonders against German armor even the meme of German tiger tank taking out two Sherman's means Sherman's are bad tanks isn't true. We had the 76mm Firefly gun and modified ammunition. Those stories of my tiger took out a hundred Sherman tanks are from the memoirs of German tankers. Even when we brought in the heavier tanks like the Pershing and super Pershing T-26 we realized they had serious reliability issues with it's suspension and moter train. There is a reason why the Sherman's we're used until the early 1960s. There is a reason it wasn't until 1963 that we full phased out the Sherman's. We had began to replace the Sherman tanks with Patton tanks because that is the spiritual successor to the Pershing tank the Patton tank was much more reliable then the Pershing was. I mean please quit while you're ahead. Because I don't want to make you look even more foolish now then you look.

 

[H. Bergeron]

bro an unarmed man going against a swordsman will get fucking massacred
the only thing that's better about facing a swordsman than facing a rifleman is that against the swordsman you can try to run away, and if you run faster than him then you will survive, while the rifleman will just shoot you in the back if you turn and run.

but if you want to actually fight then it's hopeless, you'll get slaughtered with no chance to fight back.

Which is, and I could be remembering wrong here, why conscripts in ancient or feudal times were often given at least basic spears. Still fucked against a fully armored knight or something similar, but easier to use than a sword, and worked well in groups, even if those groups weren't all that well trained.

 

[AGPinochet]

One thing I've noticed both sides doing which is weird to me is using suppressors when they're completely inappropriate.

Suppressors during wartime are always appropriate.

But I have been thinking about the usage of Suppressors in this war, I believe that this may very well be the first war in which there are combatants who both have suppressed infantry rifles are fighting each other, because I can think of no other war in which suppressors were used bilaterally by both sides on Assault rifles.

 

[Lone MacReady]

War is the province of men, Eowyn.

Spoiler: caution: death

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Somewhere around Zaporozhye

No more future enemy combatants comin' out of that womb.

 

[White_N]

Jannie is dead. Jannie remains dead. And we have killed them. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves?

Now start drinking the piss out of your shoe.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I mean except they did wonders against German armor even the meme of German tiger tank taking out two Sherman's means Sherman's are bad tanks isn't true. We had the 76mm Firefly gun and modified ammunition. Those stories of my tiger took out a hundred Sherman tanks are from the memoirs of German tankers. Even when we brought in the heavier tanks like the Pershing and super Pershing T-26 we realized they had serious reliability issues with it's suspension and moter train. There is a reason why the Sherman's we're used until the early 1960s. There is a reason it wasn't until 1963 that we full phased out the Sherman's. We had began to replace the Sherman tanks with Patton tanks because that is the spiritual successor to the Pershing tank the Patton tank was much more reliable then the Pershing was. I mean please quit while you're ahead. Because I don't want to make you look even more foolish now then you look.

Yeah you are Right the Sherman Tanks were superior to the German Tiger Tanks and Panzers. Like it wasn't even the US's fault the Shermans were designed the way they were, they had to be lighter then the average medium sized tank because they had to ship them to Europe. Some people just do not like to admit they are wrong...

 

[Cold Root Beer]

They learned to not fuck around with tank quality after the embarrassment that was the Sherman.

Hey, Pro-Uki posters, get your man. He's making your side look pretty stupid by unironically posting Belton Cooper "Death Traps" bullshit. Really puts a damper on any credulity your side has on military insights.

Posting this swill on a day when @Meat Target is repping GuP instead of Paul, you should feel ashamed.

Anyway here's a man who is infinitely smarter than you in regards to tanks, history, and military affairs deBOOOONKing all the anti-sherman shit you're about to sperg at me in response:

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

The US needs Ukrainian waifus to solve the incel problem once and for all
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Yeah, even refugee chicks have the sense to not fuck incels.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

No more future enemy combatants comin' out of that womb.

I will never buy any girl a "Girls can do anything!" Barbie, because while some girls might be all right in a firefight, they aren't the kind that spent their time playing with dolls. I mean not even every man is suited for infantry.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Hey, Pro-Uki posters, get your man. He's making your side look pretty stupid by unironically posting Belton Cooper "Death Traps" bullshit. Really puts a damper on any credulity your side has on military insights.

Posting this swill on a day when @Meat Target is repping GuP instead of Paul, you should feel ashamed.

Anyway here's a man who is infinitely smarter than you in regards to tanks, history, and military affairs deBOOOONKing all the anti-sherman shit you're about to sperg at me in response:

Imagine buying into Western Propaganda. Putin was right and now you are simping for the west. You guys just flip-flop when its convenient. Sad....

Remember its not about the war, its not about the cause, its not about the morals, it is simply about winning an internet argument.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

I mean not even every man is suited for infantry.

GI Ken dolls — coming to a 21st century Western toy store near you!

(That idea made me laugh more than it should’ve)

 

[RodgerDodger]

The Sherman was quite a good tank. It had the highest crew survivability in WW2, they tended to make it to the battlefield in significant numbers. When you look at the panther on paper it's the greatest totally destroyed tank. The reality of the matter is the Panther was a clusterfuck of engine failure with most having to be sent back all the time. Most panthers didn't make it back to the battlefield and were forced to be abandoned or destroyed. The T-34s we're made to be cheap and in large numbers. If you go to Korea the Sherman holds its own against the T-34/44 models. There is a reason Russian soldiers preferred American tanks and we saw Sherman tanks used well into the Balkans conflicts.

The Abrams tank was a replacement to the Patton tank which was meant to take on the T-54/T-62 head on. The T-72 was the Russian counter to the Patton tank and the Abrams is the replacement to the Patton tank.

To giv ethe American Engineers and Factory's some credit. They actually did something brilliant with the Sherman. They got the tank as dialed in as it was going to get. Then more or less forbid any in line production design changes. They realized that every tank they made was going overseas, and would never be able to come back to the factory for service. So they designed them with an eye towards servicing in the field. They actually did this with almost all US WW2 vehicles that entered production from mid 1940 onwards. Each vehicle came with a toolbag. And in that toolbag was everything needed to pretty much take apart and rebuild the truck, tank, or airplane. There is a famous story told about Guadalcanal where the pilot of a shotup wildcat from Enterprise had to land on the island at Henderson Field. He grabbed a couple of marines and went off into the Jungle. A short while later they came back with a replacement wing salvaged from a crashed plane. Less than an hour later he had his wing swapped, he was refueled and back in the fight. All because he had everything he needed to do the job (excepting a team of sweaty marines) tucked in a bag under his seat.

The Sherman was designed like that. It's original variants weren't the hardest hitting or fastest or most powerful tanks in the war. They were however the most reliable. And the most reparable. Up until this little war I thought that that was a lesson the Soviets had learned from the Sherman. (even though they mostly hated the Sherman. They had trouble keeping them fueled. Sherman's drank gas. Everything else the Soviets had ran on Diesel of the lowest quality possible)

 

[LeChampion1992]

Yeah you are Right the Sherman Tanks were superior to the German Tiger Tanks and Panzers. Like it wasn't even the US's fault the Shermans were designed the way they were, they had to be lighter then the average medium sized tank because they had to ship them to Europe. Some people just do not like to admit they are wrong...

The German tanks were so much better that they very rarely made it to the battlefield. Hell the only really good German tank is the Panzer 4.
I mean come on if your going to sit here and be smug about war be prepared to understand the nuances of

GI Ken dolls — coming to a 21st century Western toy store near you!

(That idea made me laugh more than it should’ve)

Hey now that's gendered language you fucking bigot.

To giv ethe American Engineers and Factory's some credit. They actually did something brilliant with the Sherman. They got the tank as dialed in as it was going to get. Then more or less forbid any in line production design changes. They realized that every tank they made was going overseas, and would never be able to come back to the factory for service. So they designed them with an eye towards servicing in the field. They actually did this with almost all US WW2 vehicles that entered production from mid 1940 onwards. Each vehicle came with a toolbag. And in that toolbag was everything needed to pretty much take apart and rebuild the truck, tank, or airplane. There is a famous story told about Guadalcanal where the pilot of a shotup wildcat from Enterprise had to land on the island at Henderson Field. He grabbed a couple of marines and went off into the Jungle. A short while later they came back with a replacement wing salvaged from a crashed plane. Less than an hour later he had his wing swapped, he was refueled and back in the fight. All because he had everything he needed to do the job (excepting a team of sweaty marines) tucked in a bag under his seat.

The Sherman was designed like that. It's original variants weren't the hardest hitting or fastest or most powerful tanks in the war. They were however the most reliable. And the most reparable. Up until this little war I thought that that was a lesson the Soviets had learned from the Sherman. (even though they mostly hated the Sherman. They had trouble keeping them fueled. Sherman's drank gas. Everything else the Soviets had ran on Diesel of the lowest quality possible)

I mean most Soviet tankers loved the Sherman if they got their hands on that. Also the problem is Russian equipment has been neglected unfortunately for years if not decades. You also have shitty communications that and to be honest they should have learned from the French that you need to have effective communication.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Yeah you are Right the Sherman Tanks were superior to the German Tiger Tanks and Panzers. Like it wasn't even the US's fault the Shermans were designed the way they were, they had to be lighter then the average medium sized tank because they had to ship them to Europe. Some people just do not like to admit they are wrong...

The Shermans were upgraded over time, with German Tankers going after Shermans known as Fireflies.

Though the US tank doctrine iirc was using Shermans to support infantry and using this "tank destroyer" to knock down Tigers and Panthers before the M26 Pershing showed up.

 

[Lookie-lou]

I mean it was very cheap to manufacture and sell, the US stopped using them in 57' because they knew they could do better. The design and purpose of them was for WW2 and they just did not match up well against German armor. But sure in other conflicts foreign countries used them and it preformed well enough for the value. Israel used them to good effect in the Yom Kippur war of 1973 when they were fighting the sand niggers. Again if it was so amazing why did they scrap the design for a completely new build? It had weaknesses, it was not as mobile and was quickly outmatched by increasingly heavier firepower.

reference for the sherman final form.

Turks have flogged the hell out of the Patton with the M60T after going white in the face realising how much Teutonic upgrade packages cost for their leopard 2s. Kosher upgrade packages worked.. Somewhat, Given they were thrown into the Syrian fray far harder than the German wunderpanzers; their attrition so far has been better... though they still lost quite a few.

wish i could tag myself with autism. please do so for my soul.

 

[The Good Nigger]

The Soviets tore down hundreds if not thousands of monuments all over Germany only to replace them with ugly statues of Lenin, Marx, and Stalin.
Rightfully the Germans should tear them all down and bring back the statues the Soviets tore down.

> Soviets did this bad thing
> Therefore we should do it too

Are you polish or just retarded?

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Imagine buying into Western Propaganda. Putin was right and now you are simping for the west. You guys just flip-flop when its convenient. Sad....

Remember its not about the war, its not about the cause, its not about the morals, it is simply about winning an internet argument.
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How is it flip flopping to be pro-Russia in this war or just not be for Ukraine and also hold the opinion that an American tank performed well in a war 80 years ago? How are those two position remotely connected and antithetical of each other? God you're stupid.

 

[White_N]

I will never buy any girl a "Girls can do anything!" Barbie, because while some girls might be all right in a firefight, they aren't the kind that spent their time playing with dolls. I mean not even every man is suited for infantry.

Now every boy has his own "doll," which is why the army has such problems with new recruits.

 

[redeyejedi]

Russian forces advance in Mariupol

Vehicles are Iveco LMV (Lynx) and GAZ 3308 BURAN


Night fight in Popasna, looks like a firework show

 

[White_N]

Zelensky in his telegram channel published a video reproaching the Europeans (so that they would understand exactly who the EU flag was addressed to at the gas station) that they were buying Russian gas and oil.

"If you buy, you sponsor a Russian military vehicle," the video carries this idea.

One of the interesting things here is that the footage is included, where a Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile hits a residential building.
The video is cropped, as the dead go next.

Spoiler: dead

https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official