Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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So does anyone know if we've seen any of those Russian atgms that are fired from the tank gun in use? I've been curious if they actually work well or not.
IIRC Russia doesn't really use those for a variety of reasons.

One of them was due to the not-entirely-unlikely risk those things had of exploding in the barrel/autoloader.

On top of that, the ATGMs give a clear smoke trail which exposes whoever fired it to an increased likelihood of getting spotted and shotted. On top of the fact that with shells you can peek, fire, and immediately reverse back into cover, while with the ATGM you have to stay exposed for longer to walk it in.

Also, the tank-fired ATGMs aren't super accurate, so they're usually better off with just sticking to shells.

Given that it's basically been T-XXs and BMP-Xs vs T-XXs and BMP-Xs, standard sabot/heat is sufficient to pen.
 
IIRC Russia doesn't really use those for a variety of reasons.

One of them was due to the not-entirely-unlikely risk those things had of exploding in the barrel/autoloader.

On top of that, the ATGMs give a clear smoke trail which exposes whoever fired it to an increased likelihood of getting spotted and shotted. On top of the fact that with shells you can peek, fire, and immediately reverse back into cover, while with the ATGM you have to stay exposed for longer to walk it in.

Also, the tank-fired ATGMs aren't super accurate, so they're usually better off with just sticking to shells.

Given that it's basically been T-XXs and BMP-Xs vs T-XXs and BMP-Xs, standard sabot/heat is sufficient to pen.
I've been thinking they probably aren't that great of an option, I was just curious to see if they'd been deployed. I know the US tried it on the m551, and they haven't tried it since. Russiaboos seemed to really brag them up before this war, but I can't recall a single time they actually have been used.
 
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Pumps seem likely, but it would be risky, and slow. I don't think there has been any documented case where in a war someone pumped a factory full of water in contested territory.
During world war 2 you had two deadly floodings. One was in london and was caused by an air raid damaging a subway tunnel and flooding a station with civilians in hiding. And in Berlin a subway wall was blown up releasing all the waterlines into the underground.
Egypt flooded Palestinian tunnels.
But yeah, I don't know if Russia will do it. Would be pretty kino if they did.
 
In Novovolynsk, the Territorial Defense killed a looter


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Kadyrov said this on telegram, this is what it translated to.

They're holding you up as idiots and you don't even know it!

Real history has long been rewritten – only our ancestors know it:

• Now there are 8 continents on Earth, but we are told only about 6
• The first space flight is officially documented in 1740, but we have only heard of Gagarin
About the true history writes the channel Lost Past (https://t.me/+yRVchcDLG14yZGMy). He tears off the covers and shows what was really happening in the world.

Who actually built the Egyptian pyramids, whether Gagarin was really paid to fly into space and what the real map of the world looks like (you will be surprised).

Take off the noodles we hang – sign now: THE LOST PAST (https://t.me/+yRVchcDLG14yZGMy)


Guy's a trip lol
It's a fake kadyrov account, kadyrov's is Kadyrov_95, not Kadyrovr95.
 
One of them was due to the not-entirely-unlikely risk those things had of exploding in the barrel/autoloader.
Wat? Russian GLATGMs are much lower pressure than their regular shells. They can even be fired from the 2A70 of the BMP-3 which is a glorified mortar.
I've been thinking they probably aren't that great of an option, I was just curious to see if they'd been deployed. I know the US tried it on the m551, and they haven't tried it since. Russiaboos seemed to really brag them up before this war, but I can't recall a single time they actually have been used.
Yes we have, there have been multiple programs to give the Abrams an ATGM which inevitably get cancelled due to being expensive and their role overlapping with M830A1.

The Sheridan and its reliability issues were a product of the technological limitations of the early 1960s.
 
Honestly by the whole "russia is entitled to use tricks and proxies to fuck up their rivals, reduce opposition to rubble, and aggressively screw over the rest of the world to ensure its own power and profit because they are mighty n sheeit" standards that get paraded around by the simp squad, im not entirely sure why its a bad thing for NATO and friends to proactively dick with russia using its own bag of tricks.

After all its enlightened self interest for the west to want russia buck broken to ensure its own security and prosperity, and since russia is obviously far weaker it should just submit and stop resisting to prevent any unnecessary suffering among its civilians.

If you think the sanctions will have the intended effect you might be the biggest retard in this forum. Why would Putin want to back out when he was proven right in his “us vs them” mentality? When they submitted in the 90s their economy was fucked over by oligarchs collaboration with western companies to squeeze as much out of people in a vulnerable state. Such an arrogant statement makes you sound like a butthurt toilet cleaner.

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The fact that you can passive-aggressively talk as much shit as you want, and you can use pretty much any slur as long as it isn't faggot or nigger, but motherfucking Orc/Ork gets you automatically permabanned is perfect. Any and all dnd, fantasy, or 40k subreddits on fucking suicide watch if it's true.
lol ... reddit could save a shit ton on infrastructure costs if they just slap a quick redirect rule on their front-end load balancer to redirect (301 Permanent, of course) everything over to resetera at this point.
 
I wake up to another (possible) ukranian gay ops, great. Also isn't it curious how all these big russian ops pushed hard by media and politicians against civilians started happening after the turkey meeting where there seemed to be some real actual process in negotiation talks?
Each day that passes i start giving less of a shit about what happens, at this point i'll take whatever outcome as long as it means "peace" returns to ukraine and russia. Peace meaning no more bombings, gay ops, and such, because as i said, the real losers here are the civilians.

By the way, i have a question for any kiwi here whose country is giving millions/billions of money worth of supplies and aid to ukraine, how do you feel about all that money going elsewhere other than your own country?
lol I can't believe you stupid niggers are still coping with this "false flag" shit

Ukraine wouldn't kill 50 of their own people. They have no reason to. The west and (most) of the entire world is already taking their side. There's no reason to risk it by pulling stupid gay ops on women and children

Plus Russia has already proven multiple times that they're 100% willing to indiscriminately fire on civilian infrastructure and non-combatants. The evidence is overwhelming. If you still believe the Russian narritive this far into the war then you're probably teetering on lolcowdom yourself. Their word is worth nothing after they pinky promised to not invade nor that they would be sending conscripts into the fight.

And I feel really good about my tax dollars going to Ukraine, actually. This is the first time in years I can say I'm proud of the actions of my country. We Americunts already have an absurd amount of our money wasted on the military; Might as well put it to good use
 
Why would Putin want to back out when he was proven right in his “us vs them” mentality?
Sadly, I feel backing away is no longer an option.

Ukraine was already agressely nationalistic and antagonistic, signing white peace (even if Russia gets DPR independence out of it) will turn it into a full blown Third Reich. It will not stick to any agreements, the Minsk accords have already proven that. On the other hand, Russia will keep getting fucked by sanctions. None of the foreign guarantors will force Ukraine to fulfil its obligations and if Russia tries to do that, well, you can imagine what is going to happen.

The flow of weapons into Ukraine will continue. The West is not interested in peace between Russia and Ukraine, quite the opposite.

Signing white peace or surrendering now will give us a neighbor with unprecedented miltiary support, a common border and a national identity that is entirely based on passionate, burning hatred towards Russians. There may even be nukes generously provided to it by beneficiaries to compensate for the Budapest memorandum, though it is fortunately unlikely.

The old man at the end of a 30 meter table has let the genie out of the bottle, which is why Peskov's bleating yesterday was borderline treason. We win this or we die, or get as close to dying as it gets.
 
lol I can't believe you stupid niggers are still coping with this "false flag" shit

Ukraine wouldn't kill 50 of their own people. They have no reason to. The west and (most) of the entire world is already taking their side. There's no reason to risk it by pulling stupid gay ops on women and children

Plus Russia has already proven multiple times that they're 100% willing to indiscriminately fire on civilian infrastructure and non-combatants. The evidence is overwhelming. If you still believe the Russian narritive this far into the war then you're probably teetering on lolcowdom yourself. Their word is worth nothing after they pinky promised to not invade nor that they would be sending conscripts into the fight.

And I feel really good about my tax dollars going to Ukraine, actually. This is the first time in years I can say I'm proud of the actions of my country. We Americunts already have an absurd amount of our money wasted on the military; Might as well put it to good use
How about you fly to Kiev and join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion if you're so proud. Otherwise you sound like some faggot who's bragging that his money is used to kill people halfway across the world.
 
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