Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,449 55.8%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 283 10.9%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 608 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,595
The thing is, they actually do give advice, but it's in a way that loons like Russ can't understand.
As you almost certainly know, the definition of "advice" that courts are not allowed to give is very different from the definition of "advice" when a court is subtly hinting at what it wants.

The law is so fun. Things can be "objective" and "reasonable" at the same time. A logician would say pick one, but unfortunately, they do not own the robes to make that demand.
 
I'd like to point out that our AnOminous predicted Fremantle's plan 100%.
Now for the really fun part: Predicting what Russ will do once the case goes to arbitration and he loses, what will Russ's next move be? Will he try to appeal? Even if it's not allowed, Russ might try. Something not being allowed has never stopped him from doing it. Will he try to file a complaint against the judge? Will Freemantle hurt him enough with legal fees that he gives up and moves on like he did when Taylor Swift's agent sent him a C&D? Will Freemantle or Molly Lens herself have to get a restraining order against Russ? The suspense is killing me! C'mon Russ! Do something stupid!
 
Now for the really fun part: Predicting what Russ will do once the case goes to arbitration and he loses, what will Russ's next move be? Will he try to appeal? Even if it's not allowed, Russ might try. Something not being allowed has never stopped him from doing it. Will he try to file a complaint against the judge? Will Freemantle hurt him enough with legal fees that he gives up and moves on like he did when Taylor Swift's agent sent him a C&D? Will Freemantle or Molly Lens herself have to get a restraining order against Russ? The suspense is killing me! C'mon Russ! Do something stupid!
Completely retard here but I will take a guess

After he loses, he appeals.
Freemantle wins that too.
Freemantle sicks court costs on him.
Russ considers trying out again
Russ gets rejected again
Russ threatens another lolsuit
Freemantle sends a Cease and Desist letter
Russell finds a new shiny object to sue and leaves Freemantle alone
 
Now for the really fun part: Predicting what Russ will do once the case goes to arbitration and he loses, what will Russ's next move be? Will he try to appeal? Even if it's not allowed, Russ might try. Something not being allowed has never stopped him from doing it. Will he try to file a complaint against the judge? Will Freemantle hurt him enough with legal fees that he gives up and moves on like he did when Taylor Swift's agent sent him a C&D? Will Freemantle or Molly Lens herself have to get a restraining order against Russ? The suspense is killing me! C'mon Russ! Do something stupid!

He's absolutely going to appeal. He may follow the example of Smelly Melly and file a second lawsuit using the same facts but now making different legal claims, trying to get a second bite at the apple. He's probably also going to try to do to Molly Lens what he previously tried to do to Skye Lazaro, AKA post nasty reviews and file state complaints against her to try to get her disbarred/in trouble for DISCRIMUNASHUN!
 
Time to get another Change.org petition going, Russ! It will definitely work this time. After all, you earned it with your awesome evidence!
I love how people get like 1000 signatures on a Change DOT org petition and think it means something. Most people would look at it and say, "so what"? But if anything Russtard is a broken record.

A bribe, essentially. So he feels like he achieved a small victory and goes away and stays away. Of course, he won't go for it. He's made it clear he wants to audition in front of the judges (esp. Heidi) and nothing else will do. And Marathon has made it clear they will not let him on the show no matter what impotent threats he spews. There's nothing to discuss. Marathon had every right to reject him, they didn't violate the ADA or any other law, so the only thing the arbiter can do is rule in Marathon's favor, ban Russ from ever auditioning again, and have security drag him out of the building.
Nah they'd never do that. Why should they? They have the upper hand here. In offering him some money it would make it seem, in his eyes, that he has a point and they're trying to bribe him or give him a payout so he won't win. Now unless it's something like a $25 gift card to Olive Garden or Cold Stone then I doubt they're going to do so.

Unless it comes with some really specific things like he'll never mention this again, he'll never apply again and he'll never try to write another song for Heidi then maybe. But even then his ego would go through the roof if he got even a smidge of something out of this. And it could set Freemantle up for future issues like this and they'd have to pay out those people as well.

So I'm saying no.
 
He's absolutely going to appeal. He may follow the example of Smelly Melly and file a second lawsuit using the same facts but now making different legal claims, trying to get a second bite at the apple. He's probably also going to try to do to Molly Lens what he previously tried to do to Skye Lazaro, AKA post nasty reviews and file state complaints against her to try to get her disbarred/in trouble for DISCRIMUNASHUN!
That's one his most infuriating traits. He tries to get people fired/in trouble for doing their job. Skye didn't hire him because he's been fired from every paralegal job he's ever had, and to top it off, he sexually harassed her in an idiotic attempt to "woo" her. He tried to get Taylor Swift and Katy Perry to fire their respective agents because they didn't pass his songs on. He doesn't understand that in the entertainment industry, part of an agent's job is to keep pests and weirdos away from the talent. I would not be surprised at all if he tries to retaliate against Ms. Lens for the crime of representing her client.
 
I love how people get like 1000 signatures on a Change DOT org petition and think it means something. Most people would look at it and say, "so what"? But if anything Russtard is a broken record
Russ would see 1000 signatures as 1000 screams of "YES!"
Yes, Russ, you can be on and win the show, you can get that date with Taylor and do music together and live happily ever as the Underdog and the PromQueen. You can eventually make her an intergalactic superstar if you just get enough signatures to force her agents to give her even a peek at the genius of your songs. Do it for the Underdogs,Russ!

Edit: no can spell gud
 
I'm sorry, I know I bring this up a lot, but there's a lot of speculation about what effect Mormonism had on Russ and how those around him treated him, but having grown up during the same time period in a state not that far from Wyoming, I just see so much of 90's- late 00's public school enabling in him. Every legal motion in every case he files is just the typical tard tattle-telling to the teacher but 20 years later and to a judge. I guarantee his IEP was one of those overzealous do-gooders who made sure if one of her tards was even looked at funny the kid who was "being mean" to them was punished. This is the product of tard coddling that has only gotten worse as time went on.

I wish Freemantle would just go for the jugular and let Russel knows that even if he wins his only compensation will be monetary and he will be forever banned from AGT or any other Freemantle associated production. Even in the best case scenario the judge is never going to order that he be allowed to perform again and Freemantle is well within their rights to tell him he is not welcome.
 
An unsolicited gift. People refuse gifts all the time because they don't want the other person to think they're owed a debt, or they think it would inappropriate to accept it. Remember a week or so back when he tore into some random model on Instagram because she didn't thank him for sending $5 she didn't ask for? He's done that several times. When he gave Ariana the scrapbook, flowers and USB drive with his "songs" on them that he wasn't supposed to have backstage, he really thought she was obligated in some way to contact him. Of course, the assistant Russ gave them to probably chunked the whole thing in the trash once she was out of sight. The backstage pass said "NO GIFTS" and Russ posts on Quora asking if his gifts count as gifts. Then he shows up with them anyway. Following Russ logic, if I send him $5, he's obligated to watch me fuck an insanely hot Instagram model while he sits in the corner because I sent him a gift so he has to do what I want. And what I want is to cuck a mentally-deficient narcissist with delusions of grandeur while Taylor Swift plays in the background. He can't refuse! He has a duty!

The thank you isn't even the point of the exercise. The "thank you" he demands is a portal; an incantation. It opens the gateway between the eldritch abomination and a prospective supplicant. It isn't simply "racking up a debt," or "keeping score," although he does do both.
Young women who catch his eye need to heed the silent warning. Saying thank you for his shiddy tard gifts means they are "connected." The tie should be severed. It should never be established to begin with. Erika discovered this the hard way.
Others, like Arianna and Taylor, have experienced navigators ready to steer them so clear, they don't know of the abomination's existence.
 
He had a court ordered psych evaluation. I don't think he was ordered into counseling. We don't know the results of the evaluation, but it can't have painted a positive picture of Russ, or else he would have posted it to prove he's not crazy. Court ordered counseling would have forced him to confront his delusions, and I don't think he could handle that. We've all seen what happens when anyone tries to make him face reality. Now imagine it's a therapist whom he has to see on pain of going to jail, and he can't just tune them out, I think he'd either have a violent outburst, or decide it was hopeless and he'd never get what he deserved, so he's going to punish the world by leaving it and kill himself. Narcissists commit suicide if they think they're trapped and there's no way out. Russ would do that if he was forced to confront what he really is.
If he's in counceling there are 2 things going on.
1. Mommy and Daddy Greer insisted on it as a condition of them continuing to pay for things such as his rent.
2. He found a "Really Cute" Therapist who is being paid to be nice to him. So he is building up his usual fantasy obsession with her. So far "she supports him in every way possible and feels he is right about everything." At least that's how it is registering in his demented brain. I figure she will file for a restraining order before the month is out. He can't have been seeing her for too long now, as she hasn't filed for a restraining order yet.
 
God he has no sense of propriety. Contacting a judge on a talent show is probably (and should be) against the rules and grounds for permanent disqualification. He tried to get Taylor Swift's managers to renegotiate her contracts so she could accept his song, not realizing that A)she has to approve any new contract and B) even if she wasn't contractually forbidden from accepting unsolicited works, she could still be sued for copyright infringement if she released a similar song. He tried to negotiate on Hof's behalf with the county comissioners when one county was considering banning brothels. He had no authority to do so, and anyway, it was a ballot measure put up for a vote by petition. They couldn't do anything about it if they wanted to. He wrote the judge hearing his harassment case a letter saying he was innocent, so therefore he was innocent. You don't communicate directly with a judge in a criminal case. You go through your lawyer.

I don't think Russ understands why unsolicited policies exist in the first place. He seems to think they're in place solely to prevent people without connections in the entertainment industry from breaking into the "biz." I don't think he understands the massive legal issues that any creative person would open themselves to if they accepted unsolicited works. Or if he does, he thinks exceptions still should be made for him. Now if he was a little more savvy about the law, he might suggest he'd sign a release so he couldn't sue someone who accepted his song(s). You know he'd sue at the drop of a hat if he even thought someone used even a tiny part of his song. Since he's copyrighted his songs in the past, it would be reasonable to assume he'd sue to enforce copyright, especially given his litigious past.

It's been explained to Shit-Lips several times in several ways by several different people. Russ is just a selfish, entitled, spoiled little man-child who believes the rules shouldn't apply to him because he's a special guy. It's his malignant narcissism overriding everything else in pursuit of the things he wants.
 
2. He found a "Really Cute" Therapist who is being paid to be nice to him. So he is building up his usual fantasy obsession with her. So far "she supports him in every way possible and feels he is right about everything." At least that's how it is registering in his demented brain. I figure she will file for a restraining order before the month is out. He can't have been seeing her for too long now, as she hasn't filed for a restraining order yet.
Therapists are supposed to have Unconditional Positive Regard for clients, where they validate and support their client in order to build the trust that can later be used to modify behavior. If he's quoting her in his current filings, it means he hasn't perceived her confronting him yet, which means she's not trying to modify his behaviour... yet. This old-ass podcast episode discusses how therapists treat delusional celebrity stalkers and it's pretty bad news for Russell, since it's mostly "get them to like you as a clinician, then distract them away from their target by having them get a job and make friends". It's not a tactic that will work with Russell, who always has employment but is barely able to maintain relationships with his actual family. What Russell has isn't fixable. It's sad for him, terrible for his therapists, and great news for Kiwi Farms.

What I wonder is: is he still seeing Susan, who was his therapist/prescriber back in Salt Lake City in 2019? Or has he switched to someone else now that he's in Vegas? Your point about her not filing a TRO makes it sound like she's new to him.
 
Your Saturday Russell Cringe.
Back to the coffee selling bikini woman.
I pray Russ never goes to any of her locations.
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The hilarity of that would be should he ask for any (non privileged) internal communications about him he would at best find that they thought very little of his audition and never mentioned it. Or more likely the only communications they had regarding him was when the HR interns tasked with running an initial background check on applicants Googled his name and discovered his habit of stalking and suing female celebrities.
They're also likely laughing at him in private. It's the only reasonable response when viewing anything Russ related (aside from disbelief/astonishment at how ridiculous he is). They may even be sending the forbidden laugh emojis to each other when discussing him
 
Why would they give him any "go away" money?
Agree with this. Why should they?...he entered a competition, was rejected because he wasn't good enough. For sane folks that's enough to take stock, either better yourself or move on to something else. For this to even get to court, let alone folks spending time and money defending their decision is totally bizarre to me, entertaining yeah but bizarre.

I suppose I've answered my own question, using the word "sane".
 
Agree with this. Why should they?...he entered a competition, was rejected because he wasn't good enough. For sane folks that's enough to take stock, either better yourself or move on to something else. For this to even get to court, let alone folks spending time and money defending their decision is totally bizarre to me, entertaining yeah but bizarre.

I suppose I've answered my own question, using the word "sane".
Money makes it seem like he had a point. And he will either do it again or just reject the money thinking he has a point and be even more persistent. They are going to win this case and destroy him. That's all they need to get him to go away
 
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