Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Borscht]

I still believe Putin is a good leader. Sure, beyond Moscow and St Petersburg Russia is left to their own devices, but still, Russian people don't have to suffer niggers and their victim complex, transgenders, indians, women's rights and refugees like the rest of Europe.

I rather live in Russia than in any of the rest of Europe and Asia combined.

Also Russian Language is top tier.

We have our share of problems - notably Chechens and muslims from the former Soviet republics, their issues seem to exactly mimic the problem of the US and the Hispanic migrants (minus the whole voter ID thing) - but Russia can be very nice... if you have money.

There is a reason so many IT and tech specialists started buying houses in the countryside during Covid when showing up at the office no longer became necessary, and considering the disparity between prices in Moscow and the rest of the country, a Moscow wage-slave can live like a tzar practically anywhere that isn't the capital or St. Petersburg.

I mean, come on. Tell me this doesn't look lovely after you install all creature comforts, arrange having your groceries delivered and have two thirds of your not-insignificant salary left to invest or spend on Funko pops or whatever. Not sure how war is going to affect this, but the countryside was starting to get gentrified.

 

[AnotherOne]

I don't understand why the world supports Ukraine to be honest. Ukraine is a country who bullies his citizens, is one of the places with more international crimes happening (abductions, drugs, funding terrorism), the administration is full of people who are corrupt and in perpetual power, their growth has been stunted by politics who only enriched people in power, while having most of the population under the poverty line.

Is a shithole of a country.

Unlike Russia?

The difference is that Russians can thrive and grow as citizens.

lmao is this bait?

I still believe Putin is a good leader. Sure, beyond Moscow and St Petersburg Russia is left to their own devices, but still, Russian people don't have to suffer niggers and their victim complex, transgenders, indians, women's rights and refugees like the rest of Europe.

I rather live in Russia than in any of the rest of Europe and Asia combined.

Also Russian Language is top tier.

I actually like Russia. That said:

• Putin fell for his own hype and risks taking the country-and the world-down with him
• Russian abortion rates are still among the highest in the world. Russian women aren't all hyper-materialistic golddiggers but they aren't really trad either.
• Russia doesn't have Syrians and Afghans, but it does have Chechens, Uzbeks, and Tajiks. Putin isn't the white Christian nationalist savior you think he is.
• I don't even know wtf you mean by indians

I'm more amazed on why Russia didn't bombed the shit out of them in the first place. Russia is being really soft for my taste, if I were aid of Putin I would have told him to bomb, capture the president and hang him in a public square while broadcasting it worldwide for everyone to see.

Putting aside your apparent lack of self awareness you're actually not wrong here. A big part of the reason why Russia's invasion has been such a shitshow was because they tried to play nice in the first week or so of the offensive. They didn't blow up food or energy infrastructure, they tried to avoid civilian casualties (not always successfully), and they tried to bum rush Kiev for a knockout blow rather than just attacking along a simple east-west front. Now they've reverted to classic Russian tactics of bombing everything but it might already be too late.

I'm not sexist or nothing, but getting the people whose job is to have babies and clean the house killed defeats the entire purpose of warfare. This chick not only died for nothing, she won't be a Mommy to any (desperately needed) Ukrainian babies and won't be making any more sandwiches, ever. By playing a man's game and predictably getting slaughtered she's done more harm to her own people than the average Chechen fighter could do in a week of taking potshots at Azov, mash'Allah.

What a waste.
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There won't be any Ukrainian babies if there isn't a Ukraine. The Soviets and Germany both ended up doing the same thing in WWII. It is surreal to see a tiktok girl fight and die for her country though.
So far Russia has only been conscripting the dregs of society, meanwhile Ukraine officially drafted every man 16-60 while the women and children are languishing in Poland (and a lot of them are going to want to stay) or getting blown up at train stations in Ukraine. Win or lose unless there's one hell of a baby boom Ukraine is still going to wind up a shattered husk between a geriatric EU on the one side and Mordor on the other. I guess Ukraine does mean borderland...

 

[Aidan]

Check the other thread. It's basically "Ukrainians did nothing wrong, all Russians are pedophiles who are constantly raping Ukrainian children, and the carefully-crafted propaganda pieces by the Ukrainians are 100% accurate!"

There isn't a hint of hyperbole here and it blows my mind.

 

[Saint Agustin]

Russians don't suffer the victim and inferiority complexes of others because their own are so huge

Like what? Being top race chad/stacy in Europe while growing their country into the dominant economic block of Europe, so much that even without the entire of the EU against them and no allies Putin started war and is winning while having one of the most positive reactions from their population (and the Ukrainian population too) doesn't seem like a complex to me.

We have our share of problems - notably Chechens and muslims from the former Soviet republics, their issues seem to exactly mimic the problem of the US and the Hispanic migrants (minus the whole voter ID thing) - but Russia can be very nice... if you have money.

There is a reason so many IT and tech specialists started buying houses in the countryside during Covid when showing up at the office no longer became necessary, and considering the disparity between prices in Moscow and the rest of the country, a Moscow wage-slave can live like a tzar practically anywhere that isn't the capital or St. Petersburg.

I mean, come on. Tell me this doesn't look lovely after you install all creature comforts, arrange having your groceries delivered and have two thirds of your not-insignificant salary left to invest or spend on Funko pops or whatever. Not sure how war is going to affect this, but the countryside was starting to get gentrified.

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Love it! Russia is lovely.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

They were never like this before!

Not saying they weren't but the invasion successfully killed off any Pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine for any of our lifetimes. Most Ukrainians were nationalistic and hated Russia, but now that's going to be their main thing even if the war ends tomorrow.

Ukraine isn't the good guys, they should have just gave up on Crimea and told the breakaway countries "Fine, you can be independent but the current Frontline will be your new borders, have fun joining Russia."

Even if Russia stepped in, and made it clear in both words in actions that Donbass was the only thing on their mind (meaning no Battle of Kiev or Battle of Kherson) Ukraine would have bent the knee fairly quickly

I don't really support Ukraine, best things that came out of them is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and the Metro games, but in this case it's a shitty country invading a slightly less shitty country, causing untold amounts of damage and death to both Ukraine and to it's civilian population.

So I just want this war to end where Ukraine doesn't lose utterly massive amounts of it's territory and Odessa remains under their control since it's necessary for their economy to not become a shadow of an already very poor one.

 

[White_N]

Are they though? They more or less control the EU along with France. They've imported large amounts of cheap labor to keep as a permanent underclass as well. Funny mustache man would probably smile at that

They simply turned 360 degrees away from Nazism and are now populating the country with African Aryans and sending Germans to camps for hate speech.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I still believe Putin is a good leader. Sure, beyond Moscow and St Petersburg Russia is left to their own devices, but still, Russian people don't have to suffer niggers and their victim complex, transgenders, indians, women's rights and refugees like the rest of Europe.

I rather live in Russia than in any of the rest of Europe and Asia combined.

Also Russian Language is top tier.

If you want to live in a lily white shithole America still has plenty of those. It's incredibly myopic to assume the darkies are the end all be all problem and you would be willing to deal with all of Russias other issues just to get away from them. You wouldn't last a month.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

It is surreal to see a tiktok girl fight and die for her country though.

Call me old fashioned, but I feel like women shouldn't be killed, unless they're witches. Also dying "for your country" is simultaneously one of the oldest tricks pulled by rich and powerful assholes and one of the stupidest and most pointless fates for dumbshit poors*. This isn't WW2, nobody's trying to exterminate Ukraine (UNFORTUNATELY). Ukraine doesn't need little girls turning into bullet riddled corpses. Ukraine should've come to some kind of reasonable arrangement for the Donbass or just let them go, instead of allowing nazi speds to run around pretending to be gangsta for 8 years.

*Same goes for Russians, who are double dumbasses for getting killed over this bullshit.

Win or lose unless there's one hell of a baby boom Ukraine is still going to wind up a shattered husk between a geriatric EU on the one side and Mordor on the other

If Ukrainians and other nationalities don't care enough about the future to fuck women and make babies, they deserve everything that's coming to them. I hope they snap out of it tho. And maybe they will.

 

[draggs]

Like what? Being top race chad/stacy in Europe while growing their country into the dominant economic block of Europe, so much that even without the entire of the EU against them and no allies Putin started war and is winning while having one of the most positive reactions from their population (and the Ukrainian population too) doesn't seem like a complex to me.



Love it! Russia is lovely.

Tell me you don't know anything about Russians without telling me you don't know anything about Russians

For real

Russians have always looked west with a mixture of awe, yearning, and resentment towards the more advanced civilizations (read: mostly Germans) there. Awe because of their economic and cultural advancement, yearning to match that advancement, and resentment that that advancement has been used over and over again (mostly by Germans) to try to conquer Russia. The string of invasions from the west one after another after another another for centuries and the usual brutality of Russia's rulers are where the national and social victim complexes come from too

 

[Lone MacReady]

The judeo-communist Bankers simply turned their puppet state 360 degrees away from Nazism and are now populating the country with African replacements and sending Germans to camps for hate speech. They don't want the Teutons becoming strong again. Delenda Est Judea.

FIFY.

 

[Saint Agustin]

If you want to live in a lily white shithole America still has plenty of those. It's incredibly myopic to assume the darkies are the end all be all problem and you would be willing to deal with all of Russias other issues just to get away from them. You wouldn't last a month.

I live in south america, want to talk about shitholes?

And what problems does Russians have that aren't solved by drinking and not caring?

 

[mindlessobserver]

I live in south america, want to talk about shitholes?

Never mind then carry on.

And what problems does Russians have that aren't solved by drinking and not caring?

One could argue that's actually Russias root problem.

 

[AnotherOne]

I live in south america, want to talk about shitholes?

And what problems does Russians have that aren't solved by drinking and not caring?

A better question is what problems do Russians have that aren't caused by drinking and not caring?

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Never mind then carry on.


One could argue that's actually Russias root problem.

Did the academics ever respond to him?

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

I blame the Ukrainian government and Zelensky in particular. They've been increasingly dehumanizing Russians for at least a decade now.

That's a neat trick considering that Zelensky was only elected in 2019, and 10 years ago Putin's boy Yanukovych was in power and would be for another two years.

 

[Saint Agustin]

Never mind then carry on.


One could argue that's actually Russias root problem.

Russian apathy should be comended instead of critizing it. In a world where everything is "problematic" is nice to know that apathy and not caring can be a solution to everyday situations.

Also, this is something no one talks to, but Russian administration is extremely efficient regarding education, security and infraestrucure, not mentioning the economic aspect that in the last 20 years cemented Russia as a superpower in both militaristic and economic, so much that EU is scared now and is why they didn't sent NATO to supply Ukraine or made big sanctions towards trades of Russian resources or embargos.

I really hope Russia annex the entirety of Ukraine and Crimea.

 

[Borscht]

That's a neat trick considering that Zelensky was only elected in 2019, and 10 years ago Putin's boy Yanukovych was in power and would be for another two years.

He wouldn't have gotten toppled so easily if there hadn't been a growing resentment towards his unwillingness to dump Russia and run into the EU's open arms. Things were anything but rosy between Russians and Ukraineans even before 2014, though obviously nowhere near as bad as they are now.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Dang, can’t say I’m surprised though. It’s inherently flawed though because it’s mostly about posting articles, and most news sources side heavily with Ukraine. If all I mostly read was MSM talking points, my perception would probably be skewed too.

That's why I left that thread. There's no interest in exploring a diplomatic solution--which is what all wars end up at anyways. The difference is either it's done fast or it's done slow and MSM is clearly trying to slow down negotiations.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Hmmm, I wonder why the Polish would have a seething hatred for Russia. It ain’t like they invade them together with the Nazi, murder their officers at Katyn, refused to help the home army at Warsaw, raped and pillaged over Poland, put a puppet regime in place and fucked over the country for the next 40 years?

You and no one else here was alive when that happened. Stop acting like it happened last night and totes justifies spewing hatred, posting possible CP and other schizo nonsense.

 

[Aidan]

That's a neat trick considering that Zelensky was only elected in 2019, and 10 years ago Putin's boy Yanukovych was in power and would be for another two years.

I was wondering if someone would latch onto the grammar technicality of me saying "Ukrainian government and Zelensky." I think you know what I mean and are being obtuse.
I'd argue that the de-russification happened pre-Maidan but will acknowledge it can officially be said it's been going on for ~8 years.