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Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.
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You and everyone else in the world.I wish whoever runs that account would drop dead, I really do
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Looks like that "influencer" thinks an unborn child is "just a lump of tissue", even when conscious.
The world and 2020 would've been a much better if people never became "influencers" on "social" media.
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Friendly reminder for all our gentle readers that this is far from the first recall due to a manufacturing fuckup that contaminated CoVax doses. The article mentions the Japan recall from last year (interesting that it turned out to be the same shitty factory that caused this new recall), but there were multiple other recalls in the USA due to a certain factory in New Jersey -- those hit J&J and AZ. So far, only Pfizer has avoided this issue, but I'm saying that based off memory so I might be forgetting one. The Clown Show has gone on for a long time now and some of this shit is starting to blur together.
CMS just released their updated policy guidelines for healthcare workers on April 5th, they might shed some light on the honk-honkery you're experiencing. I've attached a PDF for you (5 pages). TL;DR -- The deadline(s) got pushed back, there are now three different deadlines at the 30/60/90 day mark that measure different aspects of compliance, with different federal responses/punishments attached, and the clock starts running from April 5th. Good luck, the party's just getting (re)started.
So if I'm reading that Nature paper right, Corona-chan can infect and kill T-Cells, as if she's making a "notice me, sempai!" bid for attention from AIDS-sama? The other two links I can't speak to, they seem to make some pretty big claims that I'm too far out of my wheelhouse to comment on one way or another. Maybe someone else can jump in there to break those down and verify.
There was an interesting wrinkle that just came out of the FOIA docs the other day -- namely, just how many more employees Pfizer hastily hired in response to the "holy fuck that is a lot of adverse reactions" logged during the clinical trials. (Archive) How many? 10? 20? 50?
Try 600 initially, part of a planned team expansion of 1800 new hires tasked with slogging through all the ADE data.
Also, remember how in one of my earlier rum-fuelled rants about the Pfizer FOIA drama in the old thread, where I dissected the plaintiff's brief that argued against allowing Pfizer to "assist" with discovery, and they flatly stated (in polite legalese) that they didn't trust Pfizer not to pull some shit? Well, they were right, with a twist. These numbers were originally redacted (blacked out) as privileged when the docs were first delivered to the coalition of researchers who sued to get access to them. The recipients saw that, went "WTF?" and requested the redactions be removed. The redactions were removed and the docs re-delivered. Reminder -- the FDA is the ones who are handling vetting and processing these docs, so it was the FDA FOIA reviewers who wrongly designated these numbers as priv and redacted them. Isn't that interesting?
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There's probably multiple factors involved. Some South American countries have pretty high rates of diabeetus. At the time it was said they were hit by a deadlier strain. Add something like widespread vitamin D deficiency (like in Iran) and you'll have the deaths to create such an event.
The question is, would they have those many bodies had they actually cared for the sick instead of letting them die at home and wait 3 days to pick them up because the handling of contaminated bodies assumes it's the Ebola all over again?
I know next to nobody in South America outside of Brazil, and Brazil has a ton of people on both the Branch Covidian and "nothingburger" camps. If the disease really ravaged South America that bad, wouldn't we have more articles about how they're fucked due to the loss of manpower in the workforce, orphaned children, etc? Did a catastrophe hit South America but the same people who hyped covid are hiding the damage?
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Covidians regularly claim the death toll is actually 2-3 times higher (based on a few studies showing a spike the in background death rate, all of which OBVIOUSLY died of the virus) and the government is hiding the damage because they're all enslaved to capitalism and corporations won't let us lock people in their buildings for 2 weeks and shoot them on sight like a true and honest socialist government would do which would TOTALLY have eradicated the virus by now.
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It looks like SARS-CoV-2 Spike can bind LFA-1. I'd known about the Spike's potential to bind integrins for a long time, and I had heard some rumblings here and there about it being able to directly infect T lymphocytes, and I'd always known about the T lymphopenia that severe COVID sufferers endure, but I'd never seen infection of T lymphocytes confirmed. It seems like the virus can directly infect immune cells because certain motifs on the Spike allow it.
To recap:
COVID-19 is very weird because its symptoms mimic all sorts of other illnesses. It can present as a neurological illness (a small number of the earliest patients had profound meningoencephalitis), issues with taste and smell, gastrointestinal disease, pneumonia, skin issues, blood clots, all sorts of things.
However, when they do blood tests, the picture of the illness is always the same. High oxidative stress markers, lymphopenia, neutrophilia, high C-reactive protein, ferritinemia, elevated troponin levels in the blood, hypocalcemia, elevated D-dimer, abnormal AST/ALT, etc.
SARS-CoV-2 has a very wide tropism. It can infect many different cell types and trigger a completely deranged immune response. The immune response itself can cause sepsis and organ damage/failure, but it's not a sure thing. Not at all. The worst-affected appear to be people with specific comorbidities that enhance the effects of the virus. A lot of people were like "did they die with COVID-19, or of COVID-19?", but the thing is, the cluster of endothelial/metabolic diseases represented by diabetes, hypertension, obesity, old age, and African-American race actually make the virus replicate faster, because they disturb the redox balance of the blood vessels and create an ideal environment for SARS-CoV-2 to replicate.
SARS-CoV-2's home is in the lining of blood vessels. It attacks the lungs from the capillaries outward.
The best counter to COVID-19 is, unironically, diet and exercise. It sounds hilariously weaksauce, like a complete no-brainer.
"My god, a cutting-edge bioweapon can be beaten by eating your damn vegetables! Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?"
The thing is, there is no magic pill for blood vessel health. People either have it, or they don't. Oxidative disruption to the lining of blood vessels is the same exact thing, physiologically, as aging and atherosclerosis. The COVID-vulnerable phenotype is for someone who's like, 30, to have the blood vessels of a 50+ year old. The only counter is to actively make your blood vessels resemble a younger phenotype on a fundamental, biochemical level. The only way to do that is with chronic exercise (as opposed to acute exercise) and a blood vessel support diet.
This is an absolutely excellent article in Frontiers that outlines the problem:
The innermost lining of the blood vessels is very, very important to one's overall health. To prevent severe COVID-19, you've got to feed those blood vessels. It's mandatory.
Fruits and vegetables, fish, nuts, green tea, hell, anything that's rich in Vitamin D, plant polyphenols, Omega-3, selenium, cysteine, etc.
Basically, the stereotypical "lol I'm Japanese and have an antioxidant seafood/vegetable diet and live to 100" thing.
It looks like SARS-CoV-2 Spike can bind LFA-1. I'd known about the Spike's potential to bind integrins for a long time, and I had heard some rumblings here and there about it being able to directly infect T lymphocytes, and I'd always known about the T lymphopenia that severe COVID sufferers endure, but I'd never seen infection of T lymphocytes confirmed. It seems like the virus can directly infect immune cells because certain motifs on the Spike allow it.
To recap:
COVID-19 is very weird because its symptoms mimic all sorts of other illnesses. It can present as a neurological illness (a small number of the earliest patients had profound meningoencephalitis), issues with taste and smell, gastrointestinal disease, pneumonia, skin issues, blood clots, all sorts of things.
However, when they do blood tests, the picture of the illness is always the same. High oxidative stress markers, lymphopenia, neutrophilia, high C-reactive protein, ferritinemia, elevated troponin levels in the blood, hypocalcemia, elevated D-dimer, abnormal AST/ALT, etc.
SARS-CoV-2 has a very wide tropism. It can infect many different cell types and trigger a completely deranged immune response. The immune response itself can cause sepsis and organ damage/failure, but it's not a sure thing. Not at all. The worst-affected appear to be people with specific comorbidities that enhance the effects of the virus. A lot of people were like "did they die with COVID-19, or of COVID-19?", but the thing is, the cluster of endothelial/metabolic diseases represented by diabetes, hypertension, obesity, old age, and African-American race actually make the virus replicate faster, because they disturb the redox balance of the blood vessels and create an ideal environment for SARS-CoV-2 to replicate.
SARS-CoV-2's home is in the lining of blood vessels. It attacks the lungs from the capillaries outward.
The best counter to COVID-19 is, unironically, diet and exercise. It sounds hilariously weaksauce, like a complete no-brainer.
"My god, a cutting-edge bioweapon can be beaten by eating your damn vegetables! Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?"
The thing is, there is no magic pill for blood vessel health. People either have it, or they don't. Oxidative disruption to the lining of blood vessels is the same exact thing, physiologically, as aging and atherosclerosis. The COVID-vulnerable phenotype is for someone who's like, 30, to have the blood vessels of a 50+ year old. The only counter is to actively make your blood vessels resemble a younger phenotype on a fundamental, biochemical level. The only way to do that is with chronic exercise (as opposed to acute exercise) and a blood vessel support diet.
This is an absolutely excellent article in Frontiers that outlines the problem:
The innermost lining of the blood vessels is very, very important to one's overall health. To prevent severe COVID-19, you've got to feed those blood vessels. It's mandatory.
Fruits and vegetables, fish, nuts, green tea, hell, anything that's rich in Vitamin D, plant polyphenols, Omega-3, selenium, cysteine, etc.
Basically, the stereotypical "lol I'm Japanese and have an antioxidant seafood/vegetable diet and live to 100" thing.
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Seriously? They're still on this?
Won't they have to rescind all this once the so-called state of emergency goes away?
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Memo to Kate: look yourself in the mirror masked for one hour and try to not blink an eye or feeling depressed. Btw, let's see if she'll still like masks if we throw lots of contaminted masks on her backyard.
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Correctamundo.
Dude that spent the 5 days in hospital is doing better and quit drinking so no, not dying but yeah "safe and effective." Who even knows if he ever actually got Covid asymptomatically? Thing is, he knows my stance on the shot so he won't divulge any more detailed info and I don't expect him to tbh. Hoping he doesn't have any further problems; I'm not one to wish death on friends who have differing political opinions like SOME people.
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I'm actually curious to know because it's interesting to compare experiences. (more details below)
Nice, when I first got the original herbs and spices Wuhan variant of the coof in January 2020, I was relatively fat and unhealthy. Not death fat but high 20s body fat percentage, BMI definitely in fat territory, hadn't worked out in about 2 years.
I didn't even know I had it, only symptom I had was dry cough for 3 days. My ex got the full suite of symptoms though - fever, flu, cough, death-tired lethargy, etc. I'm surprised I had it that good considering my shape and amount of exposure to her (basically 24/7).
Got the coof (AKA Branded Flu) for the second time a month ago. I'm in better shape and have been working out for the past year after getting out of the NPC box and overcoming my coronachan fears. The feeling was definitely worse than the first time - feverish (but no actual fever) and tired for several days (2 days before testing positive and 4 days after testing positive) but still ranks low on the overall scale of "shittiness when sick in my life so far". Was up on my feet and back to normal after the 4th day of testing positive though.
That's my experience if you're interested and also where my guess came from.
And btw I'm vax-free. And I don't believe in the tests either, the only reason I tested was because Singapore gives some of your human rights back for 6 months if you test positive and report to a doctor (who tests you himself, and whether you get put into the system is based on this result).
The tests are fucking retarded. I don't get why people are obsessed with them. There is NO reason to keep testing after getting your result into the "system" yet majority of the dumbfucks in Singapore keep doing them (and home test kits are 4 USD a pop, not cheap).
Getting a positive result without symptoms (like my gf did) does nothing. Getting a negative result while still having symptoms also does nothing. It's not like producing a negative result will magically make you feel better or some shit. Dumb fucks.
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That would be the day when he freezes over since she and everyone else in the cult won’t admit they are wrong.Memo to Kate: look yourself in the mirror masked for one hour and try to not blink an eye or feeling depressed. Btw, let's see if she'll still like masks if we throw lots of contaminted masks on her backyard.
2020 was a set back for humanity. She and everyone else got radicalized by twitter for believing nonsense about the virus.
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Blows my mind how they can not see the inverse. Literally incapable of it.
Question about the federal vaccine mandate, would it only apply to federal workers or also contractors?
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They are retarded NPCs just look how well they react to joe rogan and use a 4chan post to back their claims. Yes it’s from the imspeaking13 account and her cunt of a friend named beks but goes by the alias antifaoperative who thinks using her PFP is a violation of twitter TOS which u highly doubt.
They are going after him because what they deem “misinfo”
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Niggercattle has existed in a perpetual state of self-inflicted, ever increasing suffering ever since smartphones became widely available and social media has become widespread. The so called "elites" (lol) culling the herd would be an act of mercy at this point.
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I don't know why but that reminds me of David Hogg's dad who worked for a contractor for the CIA (did he still work for the contractor in question?). Wouldn't be ironic if they give to Hogg's dad the vaccine instead of the saline solution by mistake?
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She doesn't understand that the anon who wrote that description is not being derogative.
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Another reason why people don’t under stand the language of twitter.
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I normally don't like engaging the shills or trolls like Invisible Crane or HHH, but I'd really like to see some of the naysayers address this point for once. When I was younger and much more naïve I saw companies like Pfizer as necessary evils, while lots of people outright hated them. As time went on I learned the lengths these major companies would go to try and get around the rules that were in place to protect people, and I grew to distrust them as much as the general public, if not more. Now that I have absolutely no trust in big pharma it seems like the rest of the world now trusts them completely. It boggles the mind.
Definitely sounds to me like an explaination for the blood clots that have been observed. I would be curious if anyone suffering from these clots have had a cardiologist do either a EKG or an echocardiogram. My understanding is that while cardiac amyloidosis can't be diagnosed off those alone, but they would most likely show up and warrant further testing.
There is a two part discussion linked in the tweets that I think does a good job going into detail (part 1, part 2). The TLDR is that there seems to be four sequences in the spike protein that happen to be the sequences you would want in the places you would want to make a more infectious virus. These sequences aren't found in other coronaviruses, and there's not a good explanation as to how they got there naturally (I would recommend reading the links to learn why).
I know that for my work they've been more forward about the status of the mandate. They stressed that it was only for those in clinical settings, and stated multiple that anyone covered by the mandate would be directly contacted. I am not a physician, I work in a purely research context with no patient or clinical contact, and so I can't say to what degree they've made good on trying to contact those covered, only that I never got any emails. Despite their purported attempts at direct contact, I learned from some loose lips that 4% of the workforce as of the end of February were unvaccinated without an exemption. I don't know if that's only those covered by the mandate or everyone, but I haven't heard any updates since then and I've been interested to know what the situation is now.
A lot of the articles are currently saying "federal workers", but when this mandate was initially started it was including contractors and was doing so with such a broad definition that a huge number of people were potentially affected. If you worked in the same building as a contractor then you were also considered a contractor for the purpose of the mandate. As a result I can't say for sure but I am assuming the worst. All I know is I am keeping my head down until I get told to take it, will fight it and try to get an exemption if possible, and have a hard decision if not.
It does look like the White House is delaying this mandate for a little while, though it doesn't say how long. I read some comments that there's plans to appeal for an en banc hearing in the 5th circuit, which has better odds (2 of the 3 judges in the decision were Dem appointed, but the only 5 of the 17 judges on the court are Dem appointed), and then of course there's the appeal to the SC. At the same time, never underestimate someone's ability to cuck out.
A small update to my last post about the vaccine hearings, but there does seem to be more push back to the endless booster strategy. I don't know if it will amount to much though.
This last article is a very interesting one, I've unfortunately been too busy the last few days to properly wrap my head around it but would like to know others thoughts on it. It appears the virus is able to infect monocytes in an antibody-dependent manner (and ACE2 independent). The virus does not seem to be able to replicate in monocytes, which instead undergo inflammatory cell death. This is akin to the ADE that people were concerned about (Full ADE requires viral replication), and also could be a contributor to cytokine storms. They point out that this only appeared to be some severe patients, and only occurred in some monocytes. One note that I'm struggling to understand is that they claim this can happen while infected with COVID, or even from monoclonal antibody therapy, but that there is absolutely no evidence of this happening from vaccination (see figure 4). They attribute that to lower afucosylation of vaccine induced antibodies, but I don' think monoclonal antibodies would be fucosylated either.
Additional note, this paper was submitted 14 months before it was accepted. That's not at all uncommon for Nature papers, but a lot has changed over the last 14 months and I'm doubtful they could have updated too much during the review process.
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I'm just as surprised as you are to see the contractor mandate resurrect like this. After the stomping OSHA ETS received and then this got hit with the injunction, I figured they'd let this one quietly die in the background, rather than risking the humiliation of racking up another L in the courts. Also, that's a good question, I need to do some more reading to double-check some things, will get back to you on that.
From what I have read while tracking this mandate and its cases the last year, it covers contractors as well as permanent, direct federal employees, which is a major factor in how the federal employee mandate manages to cover such a huge number of people. IIRC, there are two main groups that are exempted -- USPS employees (due to a deal negotiated by their union -- yes, their union actually got their shit together and looked out for their employees), and contractors who are working outside US territory. Will need to check up on what the current view is on how this plays out for workers who are remote, but still within the USA borders, as that has been rather chaotic and squishy with these mandates.
@RiverFalcon -- Reply bug bullshit.
Interesting article you linked on this, either the Biden admin was surprised by how Thursday's ruling went and is scrambling to figure out what to do with the proverbial car, now that they've caught it, or else they're trying to come up with an enforcement scheme that has the highest chance of surviving further challenges. I hope its the first one, both because it's funny and because it's more likely to fail in the long run, and not the latter, which would mean they're actually serious about continuing to push this clown show (just fucking move on already, jeezus). Either way, I'm crossing my fingers for you.
@Drain Todger -- Thanks for the recap, that was very helpful.