Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

[Sope Roap]

You have to remember to take any claims Dobson makes with a grain of salt. I would be shocked if Dobson actually experienced any serious bullying during his lifetime. And considering how he acts he most likely brought it on himself if he actually did experience it.

Oh yeah, the good ol’ 4chan testimonies from people who knew him is proof enough that he was a fucking scrub who perceived any disagreement as a genuine threat, so anything he has ever said gets a massive “citation needed” from me. There’s being bullied and then there’s distorting everything into being bullied, the latter is where Dobson’s always at.

 

[UtopiaGuy]

Andrew Dobson, Professional Victim.

 

[Cedric_Eff]

Oh yeah, the good ol’ 4chan testimonies from people who knew him is proof enough that he was a fucking scrub who perceived any disagreement as a genuine threat, so anything he has ever said gets a massive “citation needed” from me. There’s being bullied and then there’s distorting everything into being bullied, the latter is where Dobson’s always at.

He wanted and loved to be in hugboxes.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

To add my two cents:

I blame movies and pop-culture for glorifying High-school as this "life defining" moment where if you didn't "make it" you would be a loser for the rest of your life. Movies usually portray the bully as growing up to be an alcoholic loser, and the nerdy bullied kid to grow up into a successful millionaire or some similar shit.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Haha, I thought of that webcomic not too long ago — I believe it was some everyday social justice warrior event that reminded me of it. I read it some 10 years ago or so, and while it was never a great webcomic, it was the kind of schlock that I found myself enjoying to the point of regularly revisiting. I also read the same author's other webcomic, Looking For Group, which was not particularly great either, but satisfied a certain need for amateur high fantasy adventure. I stopped reading LFG as the quality started to drop substantially over some time, and it became what I'd consider to be quite cringe, and I noticed that LICD followed the same pattern. Then, after having dropped both webcomics for about one or two years, I decided to check up on them again, and saw that the author had gone full-blown SJW dangerhair. It was a little bit shocking, considering the kind of comic that LICD used to be, what with prostitues being made fun of for going around with a sign that said "suck for a buck" etc. All of a sudden, the main character's past female conquests had gone MtF transvestites, and the virtues of social justice were being espoused. The author had also started to post comic strips that focused on people who commented negatively in the comments section, mocking them for their foolishness! Considering the 180° the author made, and his overall conduct, I think it's safe to say that we're dealing with abnormal and asocial creeps, when we're discussing these kinds of artists.

Sinfest did the same thing. It went from a rather raunchy comicstrip to an insufferable platform peddling SJW-hottakes with horrible writing and infuriating double standards.
I really used to love that strip 15 years ago, but once it drank from the putrid well of modern identity politics, it went down the toilet fast.

I still remember that the comic loved to throw shade at dudes for things like watching porn and that any hetero-male person was literally turbo-rapist-Hitler, while anyone not hetero-male was an adorable angel of untouchable virtue. There were entire strips dedicated to shit on guys giving a lady a bit of a glance while the gay character was celebrated for literally groping and molesting unwilling hetero-males. Hetero-males trying to flirt with a woman? How dare they? Faggot-character starting to tongue kiss some rando on the street? QUIRKAY AND ADORABLE UWU.

Fuck Ishida.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Let’s all remember that Dobson outright admitted he either lied or heavily exaggerated in that comic and his so called “bully” actually didn’t do any of that.

The Hypocrisy of Andrew Dobson

One of my favourite Dobson moments is when he made a comic about one of the people who bullied him trying to reach out and be friends on Facebook, but if you zoom in to the Facebook screenshot you can...

hypocrisyofandrewdobson.tumblr.com

Also DOBSON is the one sending the Friend Invite in the second to last panel.

 

[Shaneequa]

I think bullying holds a pretty important social purpose during a child's development.

It establishes social hierarchies within the same caste, which is something that you'll encounter everywhere there's any amount of person to person interaction.

It corrects deviant behavior. And I don't mean deviant in the /pol/tard way, like every social group has rules over what behavior they deem acceptable and swift corrective action by the group is preferable to being ousted from it.

Autists learn pretty quickly that they cannot function in such spaces because they lack the ability to understand these rules inherent in society so they can start shifting their lifestyle to be isolated from face-to-face interaction. With the social restrictions lifted, an autist can use what they're good at to be a functional member of society instead of being a burden to it.

 

[Felis Meanis]

I mean, I don't go to highschool reunions because I have nothing to say to the people I went to highschool with... but hanging around with people from sort of the tri-county area after college, you learned things. Like one of kids who bullied me in junior high was being abused by his parents. Another popular kid who gave me a hard time was living a lie as the family business was imploding and they were living in eye-watering debt and it came crashing down about 2 years after we graduated (I guess the parents were really big into keeping up appearances and the dad was trying to keep the wheels on until he graduated college, so he as under huge pressure to keep his grades up, qualify for any scholarships, and seeing if he could graduate early).

I absolutely agree with your opinion of there being no other reasonable thing to do than to accept what happened and move on. It's easier said than done to most people though, and each individual has to grapple with the issue from his/her own unique circumstances, which means that there's a ton of homework to be done in order to get things right. Ultimately though, it is the correct thing to do, if for no other reason than it being the only thing you can do really, lest you become a neurotic, spiteful husk of a man, at least in comparison to who you could be.

I sufferred constant bullying and intense humiliation myself for years in my adolescence, and the scars are with me to this day. I've read a ton of books in order to better understand the science behind the psychology of the proposed treatments for victims of bullying, among many other conditions, so that I can apply the best methods to work on myself with. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is of course the most recommended treatment, but it comes in many variations and sizes, and you really just have to try different approaches in order to find the one treatment that suits you and your goals best. Of the books I've read, I believe that the ones written by the norse psychololgist Dan Olweus and the swedish doctor Peter-Paul Heinemann have been the best in describing the science behind bullying; Dan Olweus in particular is still widely cited to this day. The inquiries conducted by Olweus found, in no uncertain terms, that most bullies bully for no particular reason other than that they can, and because it raises their social standing in the eyes of others. This is the part of your post that I wanted to quote and comment on. I'm very happy that you got into contact with your former bullies, made peace with them, and even received a reasonable explanation for their behavior, but I would think that these kinds of rational explanations — rational in the sense that it's understandable to some extent from your perspective as the victim — for bullying are not the norm.

I know that some of the most vicious bullies from back in my adolescence are living great lives, have a very high education (one is a general practitioner for fucks sake, and have a fantastic house and a beautiful wife and family), and that's just the way it is. I got in their crosshairs because it was fun for them to have a punching bag, and their assertiveness elevated their social status. It's a very bitter pill to swallow, but what else can you do than to accept it and move on? At the very least I've had a fantastic family to support me and guide me in the process. For as many evil, vile cunts there are in this world, there are also terrific people. There are also many other people who have gone through what you've gone through, and it's solacious and therapeutic to find common ground with these people. The fact that so many people find effective ways to cope with their traumatic past and accept it, is testament to there being something else going on with people like Dobson that makes them who they are. By this time, so many years after the supposed bullying (I read some post that said the he admitted to making some of it up?), he should at the very least have made some tiny progress with his past.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Man, i don't know, but talking about bullying reminds me of my childhood.
In Chile the difference in growing up is real; i suffered from it when i was very young, like 6 to 8 years old. The last year mentioned punched one of the bullies in the face one time with a enormous strength and bloodied his nose. Was funny.
With that, after that; sometimes people trying to bring me down but i always looked behind; and later in my teenage years everything was more normal.
You guys have a serious problem with bullies. I'm always got surprised how people can be so horrible in USA. Thanks for argument my point.

 

[Absolutego]

I keep seeing this thread bumped and thinking someone finally found his alt, how is this shit still going

 

[Open Window Maniac]

I was a highschool bully and I'm now an adult internet bully. Someday I'll be a retirement home elder bully.

"Hey Earl, nice heart medication."
*Slaps pill bottle to the floor. Pills spill out all over the place*
"Now, pick 'em up."

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I keep seeing this thread bumped and thinking someone finally found his alt, how is this shit still going

Iron willpower and sheer dedication.

 

[Felis Meanis]

Man, i don't know, but talking about bullying reminds me of my childhood.
In Chile the difference in growing up is real; i suffered from it when i was very young, like 6 to 8 years old. The last year mentioned punched one of the bullies in the face one time with a enormous strength and bloodied his nose. Was funny.
With that, after that; sometimes people trying to bring me down but i always looked behind; and later in my teenage years everything was more normal.
You guys have a serious problem with bullies. I'm always got surprised how people can be so horrible in USA. Thanks for argument my point.

You did the right thing. My dear grandfather once told me how weak society has gotten, like all seniors do. He had a point though, since he followed it up by telling me of how he once fucked up a bully of his in school, and after that everything was hunky dory. I don't live in the US and A, but we're being faggots just the same over at my corner of the world. Sometimes a good, hard punch is all that is needed for peace to ensue.

 

[captkrisma]

You did the right thing. My dear grandfather once told me how weak society has gotten, like all seniors do. He had a point though, since he followed it up by telling me of how he once fucked up a bully of his in school, and after that everything was hunky dory. I don't live in the US and A, but we're being faggots just the same over at my corner of the world. Sometimes a good, hard punch is all that is needed for peace to ensue.

These days if you fight back against the bully, YOU get arrested for assault and disturbing the peace.

We're that fucked.

 

[starborn427614]

"Hey Earl, nice heart medication."
*Slaps pill bottle to the floor. Pills spill out all over the place*
"Now, pick 'em up."

And then you both have a heart attack from the stress and laugh about it later (provided you don't die, which is 50/50 at that point).

 

[Ghostse]

I absolutely agree with your opinion of there being no other reasonable thing to do than to accept what happened and move on. It's easier said than done to most people though, and each individual has to grapple with the issue from his/her own unique circumstances, which means that there's a ton of homework to be done in order to get things right. Ultimately though, it is the correct thing to do, if for no other reason than it being the only thing you can do really, lest you become a neurotic, spiteful husk of a man, at least in comparison to who you could be.

I sufferred constant bullying and intense humiliation myself for years in my adolescence, and the scars are with me to this day. I've read a ton of books in order to better understand the science behind the psychology of the proposed treatments for victims of bullying, among many other conditions, so that I can apply the best methods to work on myself with. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is of course the most recommended treatment, but it comes in many variations and sizes, and you really just have to try different approaches in order to find the one treatment that suits you and your goals best. Of the books I've read, I believe that the ones written by the norse psychololgist Dan Olweus and the swedish doctor Peter-Paul Heinemann have been the best in describing the science behind bullying; Dan Olweus in particular is still widely cited to this day. The inquiries conducted by Olweus found, in no uncertain terms, that most bullies bully for no particular reason other than that they can, and because it raises their social standing in the eyes of others. This is the part of your post that I wanted to quote and comment on. I'm very happy that you got into contact with your former bullies, made peace with them, and even received a reasonable explanation for their behavior, but I would think that these kinds of rational explanations — rational in the sense that it's understandable to some extent from your perspective as the victim — for bullying are not the norm.

I know that some of the most vicious bullies from back in my adolescence are living great lives, have a very high education (one is a general practitioner for fucks sake, and have a fantastic house and a beautiful wife and family), and that's just the way it is. I got in their crosshairs because it was fun for them to have a punching bag, and their assertiveness elevated their social status. It's a very bitter pill to swallow, but what else can you do than to accept it and move on? At the very least I've had a fantastic family to support me and guide me in the process. For as many evil, vile cunts there are in this world, there are also terrific people. There are also many other people who have gone through what you've gone through, and it's solacious and therapeutic to find common ground with these people. The fact that so many people find effective ways to cope with their traumatic past and accept it, is testament to there being something else going on with people like Dobson that makes them who they are. By this time, so many years after the supposed bullying (I read some post that said the he admitted to making some of it up?), he should at the very least have made some tiny progress with his past.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I was picked on for a lot of school. It died off in highschool, but a few guys would fuck with me once in a while, it ended completely in sophmore year when one of them slapped me on the back of head walking by. I stood up, grabbed him by the back of his collar and didn't yank so much as stood still and let him keep moving, said "Quit it", then sat back down. He stumbled (and I guess I broke his stupid wood-bead necklace) looked at me, glared, threatened some shit... but none of those guys bothered me again.

I had some issues from being excluded, but I didn't peak in highschool. I went to college - there, bullies were disliked for the small people they actually were. There were too many people , and too much going on, for any random festering resentments to settle and grow. Intellegence was a virtue (though I was still a sperg and still needed to learn how to stop being a sperg). Also being stupid early twenties instead of a stupid teen was a big step up in regards to maturity levels.
Most of the people who tried to do stupid highschool drama were made fun of trying to cause stupid highschool shit. (Which asside: asking someone "What are you, in fucking highschool or something?" was a great way to deal with drunk, hostile people. You are stating your intention to not escalate, and that usually means one of their boys will lead them away to cool down). So I got to be in environment of people who aren't being ground down by a oppressive system with lots of room to never see anyone you didn't want to see again.
edit: Also I learned a lot about how to not be a sperg, how you can still fit in without being a fad-drone, and generally (through having peopel to see as examples) learned about how while my school had been full of assholes, I played a part in being excluded and making myself a target. If I'd been less of a fragile sperg, let more things go and worked on being 'clever' instead of 'intelligent' with my responses, I'd have been picked on & left out less.

tl;dr: If you didn't peak in highschool, you learned in college people were much less socially retarded. Some people never left the highschool mindset but there were more who did. But its give and take. You need to grow out of your own spergery.

Anyway, the moral of the story is after college I went to a wedding, saw a couple guys who picked on me in school. I got a drink, they saw me and said hi, I said hi, we made small talk about life & where we'd gone to college, and discussed people we knew from school for a bout 40 minutes while we finished our drinks; I went back to the group I came with.
We didn't exchange numbers or anything. No one apologized, but they didn't bring up the past or try to do any needling. They don't live rent free in my head.

Man, i don't know, but talking about bullying reminds me of my childhood.
In Chile the difference in growing up is real; i suffered from it when i was very young, like 6 to 8 years old. The last year mentioned punched one of the bullies in the face one time with a enormous strength and bloodied his nose. Was funny.
With that, after that; sometimes people trying to bring me down but i always looked behind; and later in my teenage years everything was more normal.
You guys have a serious problem with bullies. I'm always got surprised how people can be so horrible in USA. Thanks for argument my point.

In my personal opinion, the problem with the modern US schools is that there is no outlet for aggression other than bully tactics. You hear lots of stories from older guys that follow a very similar plot line: Kid bullied me till I swung on him, regardless of outcome of that fight, 3 years later we were friends. Foreign schools, even in Cuckistan, still seem to allow kids to have physical altercations.

All the liability and touchy-feely shit has made physical confrontation all but impossible unless its an innercity school (in which case there are deeper issues).

I have some more thoughts on this, re: being an outgrowth of prowess displays, but this is the dobson thread on the racist bird-fruit argiculture internet hate machine so I'mma leave it there.[/spoiler]

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Let’s all remember that Dobson outright admitted he either lied or heavily exaggerated in that comic and his so called “bully” actually didn’t do any of that.
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The Hypocrisy of Andrew Dobson

One of my favourite Dobson moments is when he made a comic about one of the people who bullied him trying to reach out and be friends on Facebook, but if you zoom in to the Facebook screenshot you can...

hypocrisyofandrewdobson.tumblr.com

Also DOBSON is the one sending the Friend Invite in the second to last panel.

lol, imagine seeing Andy in highschool, you know him as the "artist guy" you make a doodle of one of his characters, say you're totally gonna get published first and the fat idiot tries to sue you, thats fucking hilarious.

 

[RileyV]

You have to remember to take any claims Dobson makes with a grain of salt. I would be shocked if Dobson actually experienced any serious bullying during his lifetime. And considering how he acts he most likely brought it on himself if he actually did experience it.

If anything, you have to look between the different stories he's told to see how he could have been.

Not only was he apparently banned for LIFE from riding in his school district's school buses around the time he was in grade school, but was also apparently so ill tempered and anti-social that when he photoshopped his school being destroyed by a crashing Millennium Falcon, people actually took it as a legit threat as if he said "Don't go to school tomorrow".

There's his overall pettiness with things not going his way when he told the story of his college anime club (would only be happy showing the shit he liked, got snippy at anyone else having a different view of him, like thinking the Zerium anime was shit). And him basically looking down on people he considered his lessers, like his roommate, the "crazy" Asian.

In fact, that "high school bully" comic in conjection with how he viewed Jakky might be more indicative than anything. I've got no doubt that Dobby was teased & mocked in school, but he would massively exaggerate just what happened in his mind so that he was basically treated as subhuman. Odds are, it was just some dude telling him to stop doodling and get a life, then reaching out after he grew up, possibly to make amends. But since he's a nobody, Dobby was able to keep writing him off as "cartoon level bully." The only reason he couldn't do that with Jakky is because the man was able to actually prove he was above & beyond the narrow view that Dobby had assigned him. And what was his admittance for that realization? "I'm fucking jealous and hate how he's living the life that I wanted".

Overall, the only person in Dobson's life who's probably the exact same person they were in school is Dobby himself.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If anything, you have to look between the different stories he's told to see how he could have been.

Not only was he apparently banned for LIFE from riding in his school district's school buses around the time he was in grade school, but was also apparently so ill tempered and anti-social that when he photoshopped his school being destroyed by a crashing Millennium Falcon, people actually took it as a legit threat as if he said "Don't go to school tomorrow".

There's his overall pettiness with things not going his way when he told the story of his college anime club (would only be happy showing the shit he liked, got snippy at anyone else having a different view of him, like thinking the Zerium anime was shit). And him basically looking down on people he considered his lessers, like his roommate, the "crazy" Asian.

In fact, that "high school bully" comic in conjection with how he viewed Jakky might be more indicative than anything. I've got no doubt that Dobby was teased & mocked in school, but he would massively exaggerate just what happened in his mind so that he was basically treated as subhuman. Odds are, it was just some dude telling him to stop doodling and get a life, then reaching out after he grew up, possibly to make amends. But since he's a nobody, Dobby was able to keep writing him off as "cartoon level bully." The only reason he couldn't do that with Jakky is because the man was able to actually prove he was above & beyond the narrow view that Dobby had assigned him. And what was his admittance for that realization? "I'm fucking jealous and hate how he's living the life that I wanted".

Overall, the only person in Dobson's life who's probably the exact same person they were in school is Dobby himself.

I've always wondered what really happened in these stories, just because of how unreliable a narrator Dobson really is. Like how he tried to rewrite the Samus commission incident, which could never work since we have the actual posts from that time period screen shotted.

The Jakky thing is funny too because Dobson tried to present him as this insane, wacky, artistic genius who wasn't all there, but also drew comics about how the dude was getting laid all the time.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Considering Dobson developded PTSD over getting sprayed with a water bottle and to this day tries to pass said event as if pic related actually happened. I doubt Dobbles was "tormented" daily