Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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Some folks on twitter said it's this guy, whoever he is: inthesedeserts

Not too many followrs but hilariously he has a checkmark and Ollie still can't get one.

Since it is a new month, Olly has once again graced his paypiggies with a picture of his eyes and a print out of their names again. How these pay piggies can think giving this rich boy their hard earn dollars for these terrible pictures eludes me.
Anyone see the stats for this month if more people dropped him?

https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1511639787253473285
The blue tick is based on knowing folk. I have one and got it through my company's marketing dept. having a contact in twitter; Which is to say you have to be super famous famous or part of a corporate push - he is neither and doesn't even know how to get it clearly right?

The Live James Bond is so delightful, all that crap of passing and living their lives is crumbled in the face of weird men.
 
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I think to get enjoyment out of him you'd have to be following the whole "trans trend" online. He isn't a trainwreck, making drama or making chaotic decisions, but he is interesting because he is symbolic of everything trans.

I've been lurking this thread since he came out because it completely changed my view of trans people.
I know people who were big fans of him who cried and were happy for him when he came out, and now have completely dropped him. The delusions, over theatrical exaggerations and narcissism is so blunt that normies have to put in 120% brainpower to pretend that this is a woman until they get worn out and give up.

I don't think he'll ever do anything to achieve full lolcow status, but the most entertaining part about him for sure isn't him, but the second-hand embarrassment he radiates.
Me too. His misogyny and immediate entitlement completely blackpilled me. It was like a smack of concrete in the face.
 
Since it is a new month, Olly has once again graced his paypiggies with a picture of his eyes and a print out of their names again. How these pay piggies can think giving this rich boy their hard earn dollars for these terrible pictures eludes me.
Anyone see the stats for this month if more people dropped him?
He's losing at least 100 paypigs consistently every month.
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And more interestingly, looking at his entire history you can see how much he was making before disabling that feature
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At only 810 paypigs, he was making $3029/mo (before fees, which are 6-12%, probably 8%). At his highest point on April 19, 2021, Olly had 8143 patrons and some light extrapolation gives about $30451/mo. Currently he has 6433 paypigs for an estimate around $24056/mo or $288675 annually, maybe $265581 after Patreon's 8% cut. In addition, he gets AdSense and he has sponsorships. Assuming a low end of $25 (starting $20-30, up to $50) per 1K views over a set time frame, using the only video from the past 3 months with 832K views gives maybe $20800 (range $16640-41600). Standard takes 20% of any sponsorship over $800 so that leaves around $16640 (range $13312-33280) per video. Say he does 8 videos a year, that's an estimate of $133120 from sponsorships plus the paypig money gives $398701, around $400K or £307K per year before AdSense, after Patreon and Standard fees. I don't know what taxes are like for the self-employed in Bongland but he's pulling in a tidy sum.

Yet he still dresses in PYT and Fashion Nova trash lol.
 
Looks liek someone posted a video of the Kill James Bond LIVE! from today

In action
Olly truly has a similar torso to Chris-chan when you see him flail around in the video.

Bonus image showing the eyeliner bottle exploded on Ollie
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God DAMN.
lol that Devon *really* thinks he's hot shit doesnt he?
Must be a hell of a thing, being last cis guy standing. (lmao non binary)
the absolute size of all of them. it's like the opposite where you go to see a band you like and cant believe how small the singer is etc.

Tuber needs to really not do that thing big tall women do, of crouching to try to look smaller- it looks horrendous, they look bigger, just own it, you are not getting any smaller.

Even the little things, like how shit the crapply designed, pixelated logo looks (in general, but damningly so) on the projector.

Alice is hillarious, I didnt realise how big he actually was. Imagine him lumbering into the womens room at mosque- what on earth would they think, he definitely wouldnt make it out again on his own two feet.
They are all dressed like absolute shit, wtf.
I hope devons dumb chain nips at his neck skin

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Confidently, ignorantly opine on subjects you have not the slightest idea about? suggest policy forthwith? why-ever not, babes?

(has he stopped saying babes, actually? haven't been able to stomach him speaking for more than about 7 seconds at a time for over 6 months, but it kinda seems like it)

''Brian The Philosophy Tube Stylist'' was getting name-dropped again on tumblr, RE some boring question about his shoes for the live show. His name has been getting dragged through the mud a lot recently, hasnt it.

Is this because he is in Tube's narc-sights currently, getting more and more outlandish for a vocal sign of his approval, the way narcs do when they havent 'got the goods' off someone yet (similar to his quest on Contra)?
Or is it just cos he only gets asked about clothes now due to the bimbofication act/ increasing shallowness of output?

RE the latest paypig thanks lists;
am i misremembering, or did he used to (at least) hand-write the names on the papers?
I feel like once when he was (away on Django?) he used the excuse of being 'really busy, so sorry but i had to print it' but just seems to have..kept on with that?

I might be misremembering, and he might have always been this lazy- Not that its worth doing anyway, and not that having our name written by him is better, but considering its all they get..
 
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Alice is hillarious, I didnt realise how big he actually was. Imagine him lumbering into the womens room at mosque- what on earth would they think, he definitely wouldnt make it out again on his own two feet.
I will eat my hat if Alice has ever gone to an actual mosque, and further I will eat my house if she's ever managed to wheedle her way into the female section of a mosque on top of that.

Also, yeah, it really says something when Devon somehow manages to outpace both of those idiots in being a self-obsessed, narcissistic vain twit. I'll always lol at the time on twitter he got super mad after taking an online BMI test that revealed he was considerably overweight and almost obese.

Narcissism, especially about ones looks, is one of the least appealing attributes I can think of in a man, perhaps that's why he half assedly tries this non-binary LARP?
 
Yet you're here, right? So there has to be some draw, some fascination. If not about Philosophy Tube the person, then about the surrounding Internet phenomena. I don't find anything of interest in the content he consciously produces, but the unconscious arrogance, selfishness, small-mindedness, the cruelty to his enemies (and even his friends!) while preaching compassion and understanding... that gets me because he's visibly sowing the seeds of his own downfall. Sign me up for a front row seat. I'm not ashamed.

No thread on the Farms appeals to my better angels, but on earth there are no angels, so whatever. Yes, I get a sick thrill out of watching this smug mfer self sabotage. Not my best moments. But there are worse ways to indulge a fascination with destruction — like, for instance, lighting a pitchfork and mobbing the sinner of the day for a minor crime. In comparison, gawking is just mean. I can be mean. I'll own that. I do think there's something uniquely appealing about watching a person who doesn't deserve what they have destroy their unearned good fortune, because they leave no room for the usual cancellation excuses: no my enemies had it out for me, I've been unfairly maligned, don't you see the powers that be are manipulating you against a friend, etc. If your fans slowly peel away, it's simply because YOU have failed to captivate them. I'm sure when the decline is undeniable, PT will spin it into blah blah transphobia misogyny ageism, but everyone else will see through it. They already do. Every r/Breadtube thread about a PT video these days contains criticisms of its philosophical shallowness and prioritization of the host's persona.

(I also don't talk to my friends irl about PT, but only because it's Internet nonsense — mystifying to anyone who hasn't personally suffered through his videos. And I don't like to make my friends suffer. Thankfully we've all chosen to suffer here together.)

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oh no what if Devon faces the police for some reason and they can record that he's Assigned Male at Birth! my stars!! how terrible.

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Everyone who disagrees with me is actually jealous and bitter: a thread. Why are there so many of these threads on Trans Twitter? Actually J.K. Rowling is a closeted trans man, actually Dave Chappelle is a chaser, actually you're just hating because I'm prettier and happier than you, actually cis is boring and trans is cool so there — case closed. They work so hard to drum up an aura of desire around themselves. That isn't the natural behavior of anyone who's actually, currently desired.

I can say for myself that I've loved being a woman (though if I woke up tomorrow in a male body I wouldn't transition — it isn't worth the health risk, and it wouldn't look right anyway). I was lucky to grow up in a family that didn't treat me any differently from my brothers. I've never experienced sexual violence or any harassment I couldn't deescalate. I'm not burdened by responsibilities beyond those expected from any functioning adult regardless of sex. And I've gotten to know and cherish women in a way that wouldn't have been the same were I a man. That's a gift.

"Joyful expression of femininity" lmao femininity is irrelevant. Honestly, I pity the fantastic shallowness of the womanhood they've imagined. If womanhood were just femininity — expression, performance — I might resent it for real. In actuality, I enjoy being a woman because I am one, not because I've romanticized the concept of woman into some great freedom from the prison cell of manhood.

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definitely not men definitely not obsessed with masculinity definitely not simmering with resentment against anyone embodying the strength and courage and coolness they desire but can never achieve
They have no idea what real misogyny or patriarchy is, and they think women are fucking idiots apparently. They really seem to think that at any point in history "cis" women could have just identified out of womanhood, but just chose not to.

The funny thing is, that still isn't possible today. A woman getting their boobs chopped off doesn't make them a man, not really, not in ways that really matter. Sure, you can get an M on your passport, but as we've seen in Ukraine, the draft comes in for fighting age men, and you can still put the makeup back on, grow your hair and leave - no one really thinks you're a man.
 
He's losing at least 100 paypigs consistently every month.
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And more interestingly, looking at his entire history you can see how much he was making before disabling that feature
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At only 810 paypigs, he was making $3029/mo (before fees, which are 6-12%, probably 8%). At his highest point on April 19, 2021, Olly had 8143 patrons and some light extrapolation gives about $30451/mo. Currently he has 6433 paypigs for an estimate around $24056/mo or $288675 annually, maybe $265581 after Patreon's 8% cut. In addition, he gets AdSense and he has sponsorships. Assuming a low end of $25 (starting $20-30, up to $50) per 1K views over a set time frame, using the only video from the past 3 months with 832K views gives maybe $20800 (range $16640-41600). Standard takes 20% of any sponsorship over $800 so that leaves around $16640 (range $13312-33280) per video. Say he does 8 videos a year, that's an estimate of $133120 from sponsorships plus the paypig money gives $398701, around $400K or £307K per year before AdSense, after Patreon and Standard fees. I don't know what taxes are like for the self-employed in Bongland but he's pulling in a tidy sum.

Yet he still dresses in PYT and Fashion Nova trash lol.
Looks like he's slowly falling back to his pre-transition numbers. If he keeps falling he needs another coming out soon.
 
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Confidently, ignorantly opine on subjects you have not the slightest idea about? suggest policy forthwith? why-ever not, babes?

(has he stopped saying babes, actually? haven't been able to stomach him speaking for more than about 7 seconds at a time for over 6 months, but it kinda seems like it)

"Lord Nonce" and the tone of that whole tweet sounds exactly like a line from WTYP; Olly appears to be skinwalking them and trying to imitate their jokes. It's really odd. I wonder if they're getting uncomfortable yet.
 
)@PennyAni when we gonna see the Joan chatlogs?

Ooh, apologies! I had missed anyone expressing interest when I asked. I'll come update this post with them here in a bit!

ETA: Ok these are kind of boring and most of it has already been talked about. At the end we had a couple of lines of more convo about sexuality and stuff that wasnt relevant so I clipped the last two or three messages. But it is interesting to see JFL make some of the same arguments she was "yikes!"-ing others for making just weeks before this...

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What the fuck is Ollie wearing in that video clip?

On a woman all that tacky gold stuff would be on the hips, that's the whole point of the embellishment.

On him it's stretched across his mid torso. He needs to shop at the specialist drag queen places that make dresses for men. What an utter prat he is. What does he see in the mirror, because it's not what anyone else sees.

Devon seems to be wearing a playsuit. A garment as hideous as it's name implies and not to be worn by any one older than 12.

As for the fat fool in the red headscarf. No idea.
 
Yes I got pretty triggered one time Judy Garland got mentioned. Have u seen Being There? No fucker has, it’s incredible

I have! It is indeed. I only watched it because one of my favorite albums of all time was named after the movie; and I wanted to see the movie for that reason. But I loved it.
 
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The cognitive dissonance, it burns. The antics of trans women, who think lesbianism is the same as male heterosexuality, but for laydees. It's not the same thing, its affected by the cultural experience of growing up female in society. You know, that thing you all lacked. In Choob and Devon's case they can't even claim to understand how growing up trans alters your outlook, because they didn't even manage that. I suspect that also applies to Alice but I'm not sure.
 
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Ooh, apologies! I had missed anyone expressing interest when I asked. I'll come update this post with them here in a bit!

ETA: Ok these are kind of boring and most of it has already been talked about. At the end we had a couple of lines of more convo about sexuality and stuff that wasnt relevant so I clipped the last two or three messages. But it is interesting to see JFL make some of the same arguments she was "yikes!"-ing others for making just weeks before this...

Hahahahahahaha the goods!
‘I hate my mother, I hate my Ex-girlfriend, borderline incel-y’

How the FUCK can she see all that and be ‘🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡 Abigail!’ the rest of the time? So weird. He’s done nothing to deserve it. He’s made some very shallow videos which you’d think Joan would know her way around already
 
Looks like he's slowly falling back to his pre-transition numbers. If he keeps falling he needs another coming out soon.
As what though? It seems like he's run out of politically useful things to come out as.
Assuming this is true, what would they be targeting Devon for? His identity that only exists inside his head?
 
As what though? It seems like he's run out of politically useful things to come out as.
Maybe ...Spicey MH DX?
Narcissist for instance. People are trying to cape for it, (In a omg don’t be ableist kind of way) in a very Tumblr way, but that seems to be where tubule gets his ideas from and it’s seen him well.

It explains and excuses any and all of his offputting behaviour and gives a new thing to write bad freesheet articles about
 
Maybe ...Spicey MH DX?
Narcissist for instance. People are trying to cape for it, (In a omg don’t be ableist kind of way) in a very Tumblr way, but that seems to be where tubule gets his ideas from and it’s seen him well.

It explains and excuses any and all of his offputting behaviour and gives a new thing to write bad freesheet articles about
Coming out as a narcissist LOL
 
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