Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Simpadoo]

Seriously? I expected le french phone calleur to win by a landslide. Please do not play with my feelings like that.

Maricon is a better appellative than Macaroni, IMO.

 

[Simpadoo]

The US is not harmed in the slightest by sanctioning Russia. Look at our trade balance, we exported a whopping $6bn to them in 2021, our imports are relatively high at $30bn, but that's due to energy imports. The only reason we import energy from them is because it's cheap, and our domestic energy production has political limitations rather than capacity limitations. If Russia must be cut off tptb will find a way to increase domestic production, or start playing nice with countries like Venezuela to find a new cheap importer.

Agreed, on the surface. The real threat is taking a big shit in the petrodollar which would be akin to economic asymmetric warfare.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

It seems that underneath a lot of cities there are catacombs and old bunkers; sometimes even referred as a city underneath a city.
Kiev is littered with it, so is Odessa and Mariupol and probably a shitload of other cities and places.
Rumor about Mariupol is that it has an underground bunker complex of 8 floors deep but I couldn't find any info about it.

Here's a vid of the Odessa catacombs. At the end of the vid the dude who maps them estimates that 60% of it is still unknown.

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Fuck that looks like a fucking nightmare to have to clear out. That said, I'm adding it to the list of places to visit if I win the lottery, that looks like fun to explore.

 

[Ward]

Every single time I come here I swear takes here get shittier and even shittier

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

They will if they feel like the existence of Russia is at stake.

They won't. They didn't go balistic in the Soviet era, they sure as shit won't do it now with a far more westernized society of today.

What actually would be tough on Russia would be Germany cutting off all oil from Russia entirely, but that would be at the expense of their own citizens and lead to more inflation. Euros can bark all they want, but they cucked themselves.

Germans cuck themselves, that's why they don't dare cut Russia out completely, because they've become too depenent with their (((rational Russian regime))) bullshit after Germany fucked its own energy sector with all that green energy bullshit, but that's another issue.
The eastern block is more than willing to cut all resources from Russia, even if many hate the idea. Ukraine has changed everything, but it hasn't changed how much of slippery cunts the Russians are.

 

[Wy4M]

Fortunately for the stingers at least, they have about 5 years tops before their proprietary battery goes out and it's only useful for whatever explosives you can get from the missile itself. I image its probably similar for the more advanced ATGMs.

I don't know how difficult it is but it wouldn't surprise me if someone figures out how to do this with that proprietary battery:

Or builds his own.

 

[Fougaro]

Key takeaways:

• The Russians continue to push from Izyum towards Slovyansk in their attempt to encircle the Donbass. The war however is continuing very slowly as of now and the Russians should at least entertain the thought of possibly considering to to maybe deploy more troops.
• What's going well for Ukraine: The intel sharing with NATO that is basically a cheat code to disable the fog of war, continued gibs of western equipment (such as javelins and NLAWs) and the Russians' questionable way of deploying tank units which makes them vulnerable to ambushes.
• What's going well for Russia: Effective use of drones for recon and kamikaze drones and effective use of long-range systems and MRLS.
• Russian helicopters have shit optronics making their raids more than often suicide missions.
• The Donbass front will either make or break Russia's entire campaign.
• According to VOR, thinking that the attack on Kevin's primary objective was a diversion is a cope. While it may have been a secondary objective, the Russians abandoned the northern front because it became too much of a sunk cost.
• As much of a third world shithole Ukraine is, it is - especially with Western help - a much tougher opponent than Saddam's Iraq. Russia might have to announce full mobilisation at some point instead of fighting this war relatively half-arsed.
• The Russians destroyed the airport of Dnepropetrovsk Dnipro. Why they didn't do this earlier is anyone's guess.

 

[JambledUpWords]

but it hasn't changed how much of slippery cunts the Russians are.

I know that you’re a Euro and have special hatred for Russians. I don’t see a point in it. Euros need to uncuck themselves by cutting some of those social programs in exchange for a better funded military. Without the US, Euros wouldn’t be able to do much.

 

[Elbereth]

Ask Libya how giving the US everything is asked for turned out. The goal is to remove Putin from power, Biden said as such multiple times. Sanctions will only come down when a puppet state exists in Russia.

The US is not harmed in the slightest by sanctioning Russia. Look at our trade balance, we exported a whopping $6bn to them in 2021, our imports are relatively high at $30bn, but that's due to energy imports. The only reason we import energy from them is because it's cheap, and our domestic energy production has political limitations rather than capacity limitations. If Russia must be cut off tptb will find a way to increase domestic production, or start playing nice with countries like Venezuela to find a new cheap importer.

All of this is very convenient to believe if you want to justify war on other nation.

>They won't lift them even if we do as they ask
>so we won't do as they ask

Also, if your leverage is killing civilians, you have to ask yourself if you are good guys.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

I don't know how difficult it is but it wouldn't surprise me if someone figures out how to do this with that proprietary battery:
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Or builds his own.

I'd give that pretty good odds of just frying the thing tbh. I don't know for sure, but I also suspect they have some degree of safeguards against doing that, for obvious reasons.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Also, if your leverage is killing civilians, you have to ask yourself if you are good guys.

The US alone has killed thousands of civilians during both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. We probably killed quite a few civilians during Vietnam too. Then we killed a lot of civilians at Hiroshima. Yet, despite all of this, the US are considered the “good guys” because we do it to “stop terrorism” or “spread democracy,”

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-sanctions-could-lifted-invading-172208256.html


https://news.yahoo.com/zelensky-negotiate-sanctions-relief-exchange-174842306.html

lol

Imagine being this dumb

 

[Wy4M]

Key takeaways:

• The Russians continue to push from Izyum towards Slovyansk in their attempt to encircle the Donbass. The war however is continuing very slowly as of now and the Russians should at least entertain the thought of possibly considering to to maybe deploy more troops.
• What's going well for Ukraine: The intel sharing with NATO that is basically a cheat code to disable the fog of war, continued gibs of western equipment (such as javelins and NLAWs) and the Russians' questionable way of deploying tank units which makes them vulnerable to ambushes.
• What's going well for Russia: Effective use of drones for recon and kamikaze drones and effective use of long-range systems and MRLS.
• Russian helicopters have shit optronics making their raids more than often suicide missions.
• The Donbass front will either make or break Russia's entire campaign.
• According to VOR, thinking that the attack on Kevin's primary objective was a diversion is a cope. While it may have been a secondary objective, the Russians abandoned the northern front because it became too much of a sunk cost.
• As much of a third world shithole Ukraine is, it is - especially with Western help - a much tougher opponent than Saddam's Iraq. Russia might have to announce full mobilisation at some point instead of fighting this war relatively half-arsed.
• The Russians destroyed the airport of Dnepropetrovsk Dnipro. Why they didn't do this earlier is anyone's guess.

Since 2 or 3 weeks Russia is also focusing on destroying fuel depots.
Imo this will be devastating for the Ukrainian army but also for farmers since the seeding season started in Ukraine.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Key takeaways:

• The Russians continue to push from Izyum towards Slovyansk in their attempt to encircle the Donbass. The war however is continuing very slowly as of now and the Russians should at least entertain the thought of possibly considering to to maybe deploy more troops.
• What's going well for Ukraine: The intel sharing with NATO that is basically a cheat code to disable the fog of war, continued gibs of western equipment (such as javelins and NLAWs) and the Russians' questionable way of deploying tank units which makes them vulnerable to ambushes.
• What's going well for Russia: Effective use of drones for recon and kamikaze drones and effective use of long-range systems and MRLS.
• Russian helicopters have shit optronics making their raids more than often suicide missions.
• The Donbass front will either make or break Russia's entire campaign.
• According to VOR, thinking that the attack on Kevin's primary objective was a diversion is a cope. While it may have been a secondary objective, the Russians abandoned the northern front because it became too much of a sunk cost.
• As much of a third world shithole Ukraine is, it is - especially with Western help - a much tougher opponent than Saddam's Iraq. Russia might have to announce full mobilisation at some point instead of fighting this war relatively half-arsed.
• The Russians destroyed the airport of Dnepropetrovsk Dnipro. Why they didn't do this earlier is anyone's guess.

Not sure I agree with the Donbas front being make or break. If Mariupol or Kharkiv come completely under Russian control, there are fairly high odds they'll get a win in Donbas by default even if they get absolutely creamed there.

 

[Potatoherder]

All of this is very convenient to believe if you want to justify war on other nation.

>They won't lift them even if we do as they ask
>so we won't do as they ask

Also, if your leverage is killing civilians, you have to ask yourself if you are good guys.

It's called looking a history book. The US has a history of not keeping its' word and doing underhanded actions to fucked over the other side.

The US alone has killed thousands of civilians during both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. We probably killed quite a few civilians during Vietnam too. Then we killed a lot of civilians at Hiroshima. Yet, despite all of this, the US are considered the “good guys” because we do it to “stop terrorism” or “spread democracy,”

Hundred of thousands to millions. And that is only the official numbers. They are directly responsible for tens of thousands of more in places like Yemen.

 

[cistendered]

Also, if your leverage is killing civilians, you have to ask yourself if you are good guys.

I agree, which is why I think the US, given it's track record of murdering civilians, is the most evil country on Earth. Would you trust the most evil country on Earth to keep it's word?

 

[JambledUpWords]

It's called looking a history book. The US has a history of not keeping its' word and doing underhanded actions to fucked over the other side.

Hundred of thousands to millions. And that is only the official numbers. They are directly responsible for tens of thousands of more in places like Yemen.

From what I’ve seen, civilian deaths are only serious business if they are white. At least from a few Euros I’ve interacted with. Old habits die hard, I guess.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

From what I’ve seen, civilian deaths are only serious business if they are white. At least from a few Euros I’ve interacted with. Old habits die hard, I guess.

Let's be honest here, this is literally the only time A&H has given a shit about dead brown people.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Let's be honest here, this is literally the only time A&H has given a shit about dead brown people.

Tbh I always felt A&H hate for the browns is more out of frustration at their respective governments enabling bad behavior rather than actual hate for browns, abortion is a good topic that shows that when push comes to shove A&H doesn't actually want niglets getting whacked in the womb.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Let's be honest here, this is literally the only time A&H has given a shit about dead brown people.

Them killing each other is one thing, it’s more the general hypocrisy surrounding Ukraine and US foreign policy that bothers me. I also really don’t think the US has much of a moral high ground compared to Russia in terms of killed civilians in conflicts.