So if the consensus is becoming that incels are simply masochists and humiliation fetishists, then to what end? I mean seriously, these people go all the way for this shit. Is it like trooning out, except choosing inceldom as the ideology? There are way better topics to humiliate yourself with that aren't so detrimental and sad, so why incels? And I'm having a bit of a chicken or the egg first dilemma: are incels humiliation fetishists that latched on to inceldom, or are they people indoctrinated into the incel ideology and then learn to only be satisfied by humiliation in some kind of fucked up Pavlovian way?
It's so weird, man. I've done stupid shit throughout my life but I cannot wrap my head around going so hard on being a pathetic virgin and needing to convince everyone else of it. The humiliation fetish idea doesn't quite make sense to me as an explanation for the behavior.
One thing incels need to understand is that no one enjoys life. Most people hate most other people. A vast majority of marriages and relationships are for convenience, money or because neither person could find a better choice. Almost no one is actually happy with their place in life. Absolutely no one wants you for who you are. The advice I was given was "Life sucks, get used to it."
Wow man, there's a lot to unpack here.
Most people view others in a relatively neutral way. Indifference or ignorance is common and normal. If you spend a lot of energy on hating others and viewing others through that lens, you're only making yourself miserable.
Marriages and relationships aren't for convenience. This is a massively autistic way to look at things. Emotions play a large role in relationships and marriages (who woulda thunk it?), and how they form and play out. Do you really think the divorce rate would be so high if marriages and long term relationships were cop-outs and conveniences?
Most people are not unhappy with their place in life. Most people learn to find the good things about their place in life and learn to feel gratitude and appreciation for the things that brought them to where they are, and pride for their own efforts, even if they haven't achieved a dream. Maybe many people are discontented and wish to be somewhere greater, but it would be foolish to equate this to being unhappy with life.
No one wants you for who you are means you're at maximum 14 years old or haven't moved past that mindset. People only want you for who you are. People in general can sniff out when you're acting like something you aren't.
I'm sorry that's the only advice you were given in life. Yeah, life has many painful parts, but you will only feel pain if you only choose to recognize pain. What incels "need to understand" is being a cynic in any form is a surefire way to be the least favorite person in the room.
This sounds like a miserable viewpoint to carry through life.