General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Anyways, I have a question; who would be the most likely of Vshojo to start shit with Hololive? That'd create a massive shitstorm, probably.
Obviously Vei, but i don't think it will ever happen, most of the brainlet normies that would be used to fuel a true shitstorm are fans of both sides and would thus make it hard for a "us VS them" mentality to form easily.
Mana detonated her growth by being a communist but what did Artemis do?
Being boring as shit and then promoting himself on other's streams in an incredibly pathetic display, motherfucker had one of the biggest pre-debut followings for an indie before uto and a really nice model, but it all went to shit after people realized how talentless and uninteresting he really was, also his voice is fucking grating.

If you search this thread you can find plenty of artemis sperging.
 
His feminine penis, general shittery, and every other utterance reminding you he's a true and honest lesbian..

I guess basically it might have something to do with standard behaviors associated with the alphabet-type people.

I’ve modestly outed myself here as a lefty before, one who migrated here because it’s counter-intuitively the least retarded vtuber thread in the entire world. I want you to know, because we are probably an under-represented cohort here on the farms, that we hate these people as much or more than anyone does. These phony-ass, neo-pronoun, true-and-honest-lesbians and otherkin, as well as the assorted dipshits trying to cancel Karen, and IDpol fruitloops make it exponentially harder and even more dangerous to be a marginalized person of any sort, especially in the West where they hold sway on Twitter. I know trans people who are entirely normal, people of color who have been targeted by police, women who have been sexually assaulted, and plenty more, and these narcissistic shit-goblin drama-tweeters aren’t helping them at all. They’re like my side’s version of Qanon. I just want you to know most of us think they’re total garbage too. Its’s not standard alphabet people behavior, it’s absolute horse shit.
 
Lets hope this very cool looking new model comes with a making good on her no drama promise
The only Twitch vtuber I've seen with a skimpier outfit than this would probably be Snuffy's adult model and that was just because she wanted a hyper-sexualized model to contrast with her regular tomboy model I believe. This however definitely seems like Vei is going straight for the coomers.
 
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I’ve modestly outed myself here as a lefty before, one who migrated here because it’s counter-intuitively the least retarded vtuber thread in the entire world. I want you to know, because we are probably an under-represented cohort here on the farms, that we hate these people as much or more than anyone does. These phony-ass, neo-pronoun, true-and-honest-lesbians and otherkin, as well as the assorted dipshits trying to cancel Karen, and IDpol fruitloops make it exponentially harder and even more dangerous to be a marginalized person of any sort, especially in the West where they hold sway on Twitter. I know trans people who are entirely normal, people of color who have been targeted by police, women who have been sexually assaulted, and plenty more, and these narcissistic shit-goblin drama-tweeters aren’t helping them at all. They’re like my side’s version of Qanon. I just want you to know most of us think they’re total garbage too. Its’s not standard alphabet people behavior, it’s absolute horse shit.
Optimistic take for me would be that they (spergs) are a loud, but vocal minority. I increasingly think it might actually be the reverse (decent people, regardless of alphabet-affinity). In [current year], those people you mention are unironically the exception to the standard degeneracy and insanity that pervades the alphabet-people. Didn't really intend for this to go into politisperging/effortposting.

Either way, not really the point: Artemis the Troon is all of those things, and un-entertaining to boot.
 
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I genuinely believe Artemis would be just as popular as Myth, if he had some actual talent.
Instead on his debut I've got the VTuber equivalent of watching paint dry. Was very glad I wasn't alone with that thought at the time.
with the top tier model and even with the troon voice id somewhat agree, imho, the alphabet soup can support some creators if they can keep their spaghetti enough to not be cancellable

but hes about as entertaining as a sandpaper enema, so, rip troonshark
 
Didn't he start as Pikamee's mod? I remember he was like THE Vtwitter, someone that managed to built significant hype for his debut through networking on that platform inspiring countless other talentless faggots to follow in his footsteps even if said debut was largely seen as disappointment. Anyway the only thing Artemis actually had going for him was better model than pretty much any other indie at that time but it doesn't stand out nearly as much this days.
I have no idea how or why that line was drawn, heck i even fell for it myself and unsubbed from our lolicon kettle fearing the worst. But no, I eventually did a little digging and the BasedShark guy was just a random artist. Pretty good, too, if i recall. I guess that was just one more coattail Artemis tried to grift (like stealing the shark gimmick from Gura and squatting in people streams so his shills suddenly saw him and said "omg Artemis watches [vtuber he wanted to skim viewers from] how cool!") and ended calling himself based shark on his streams. I mean, it's a possibility, I dunno.
 
Optimistic take for me would be that they (spergs) are a loud, but vocal minority. I increasingly think it might actually be the reverse (decent people, regardless of alphabet-affinity). In [current year], those people you mention are unironically the exception to the standard degeneracy and insanity that pervades the alphabet-people. Didn't really intend for this to go into politisperging/effortposting.

Either way, not really the point: Artemis the Troon is all of those things, and un-entertaining to boot.
Agreed, and all of Artemis’s failures are Artemis’s fault. They had every opportunity to succeed and they just ended up being whiny, boring, and cringey.
 
i actually wonder about the limit of what makes us hate these alphabet people or people who pretend to be female. or what started that in vtuber sphere? i mean i saw like Itolife who was basically just a dude in a female big tiddies avatar. or that one dude in vsaiko who have appearance of female but his avatar lore is basically otokonoko, a guy who likes to dress feminine (forgot the name), and people fine with that

but when it comes to people like Zenlizard, or Artemis people going apeshit on it, is it because they more likely retarded like most twitter user, or because they actually sell nothing but those gender aka talentless?

on the other hand its pretty cool Shueisha collab with Hololive,
you mostly known them for Shonen Jump
 
i actually wonder about the limit of what makes us hate these alphabet people or people who pretend to be female. or what started that in vtuber sphere? i mean i saw like Itolife who was basically just a dude in a female big tiddies avatar. or that one dude in vsaiko who have appearance of female but his avatar lore is basically otokonoko, a guy who likes to dress feminine (forgot the name), and people fine with that

but when it comes to people like Zenlizard, or Artemis people going apeshit on it, is it because they more likely retarded like most twitter user, or because they actually sell nothing but those gender aka talentless?

on the other hand its pretty cool Shueisha collab with Hololive,
you mostly known them for Shonen Jump
Anybody whose gender expression is literally their personality is bound to make shit content.
 
Ironmouse's sin is keeping Connor's fingers in the VTubing sphere.
If anything IM is keeping Connor away from Hololive. Imagine if that little ship they have wasn't successful as it is now he would still be pestering Ollie and even worse Mori.
Did Connor become a mainstay popular in EN Vtuber scene now or something? When Kson about to end her Elden Ring stream after 9+ hours yesterday, the chat start to spam her to raid Connor. She almost did it too, if it isn't for the fact that she doesn't know how and mess up the raid command so it doesn't do anything. I don't hate-hate Connor, but I prefer not having to see him so much. Like seeing tomato in my burger. It's fine, I will still eat it, but I prefer it isn't in my food in the first place.
What you have to understand about TT fanbase is that when one of the guys interacts with someone(e-celeb or vtuber in this case) they are now part of "TT lore" and they won't let it go easily.
They also have huge hateboner towards hololive fanbase that dates back to first Mori episode and the reaction it caused so every time holo interacts with them or even does collab with them, they think it is as a win because "it makes holotards mad". And because Mori is forefront of this she is basically their hiding place among holos.
 
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I don’t feel there’s much interest for the newer generations for Vtubers mainly Nijisanji with EN Gen 5 and hololive with HoloX and ID Gen 3. I think we’ve reached the stalemate of Vtubing and I expect the decline to happen very soon.
Never have I witnessed a statement this hilariously untrue. ID Gen 3 currently has the best debut numbers of the entire ID branch and Kobo specifically has been a breakout hit in Indonesia making her the fastest growing ID and having the highest consistent median view count in the entire branch's history.

HoloX is especially hilarious because their debuts we're noted for having absolutely titanic numbers. Their views currently stabilized but Laplus is consistently an above 10-15k+ chuuba.

Saying theirs not much interest on the Hololive front of new generations is laughable especially with the turnouts of ID 3 of all branches.
 
I haven’t posted in this thread for a while but I will say this…
I don’t feel there’s much interest for the newer generations for Vtubers mainly Nijisanji with EN Gen 5 and hololive with HoloX and ID Gen 3. I think we’ve reached the stalemate of Vtubing and I expect the decline to happen very soon.
NijiEN gen 5 often has better numbers than gens 1-3 and HoloX and HoloID Gen 3 have some of the best numbers for JP and ID vtubers period. They're not exactly good examples for the decline of vtubers.
 
The Rabbit inexplicably hadn't played Portal, so she corrects that in true Fluent Pekoglish style, highlights here:


There's something almost inexpressible about how effortlessly Peko weaves comedy. We know it's an act, absolutely everyone from Miko through to Kiara have sincerely told us she's utterly polite and meek away from the cameras, and yet in the moment it all feels so organic and utterly authentic that it's very difficult to believe.
 
Marine got the Coof. Get well soon.
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Lamy dodged a bullet apparently.
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