Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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It depends on if Russia feels like making a big show of what happens to foreign fighters who help their enemies or not.

With the war going the way it is and Russia being pissed at 'Western Interference' I think this guy might be in for a bad time...
The fact that his former Instagram account kept referring to Russians and Chechens as orcs, faggots, monsters and generally describing them as subhuman won’t probably help his cause. I don’t know much about this guy but that open account wasn’t a smart move all considered.
 
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I swear I seen these no profile pic accounts before. They glow harder than the sun and go around asking about one thing before disappearing. I remember one time one of those messaged me and asked about a weird person I knew before vanishing. I genuinely suspect them of being feds.
 
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Holy shit! I was fooled for a good 5 seconds because that mug looks like something taken from a report about a major bongo party in Africa. Jaundice and all. The lack of Mr. Popo-tier rubber boat lips gave it away.
This is giving me hope that we'll see a minstrel show put on by the ukies to raise morale or something like that. Someone get 4chan on this shit, if they can get the ok sign turned into a racist icon, surely they can make minstrel shows into a sign of support for the ukies.
 
I will never forget some old grandpa at a Fourth of July when we were kids and one asked (we were like 10 or so) "Did you fight in the war and kill people?" and his face just changed at the thought, his eyes narrowed to a bright blue, his eyebrows came together, and he looked a million miles away then he said "Yes, we all did. You do what you have to do." Then he like snapped out of it and said "Can you get me another hot dog" and it was over.

I am 100% sure it was nastier and fucked some guys up.
I think to a certain degree people can underestimate how extremely brutal wars can be - especially wars of decades past where it was a lot easier to sweep shit under the rug and have the government sponsored media sanitize everything. Being pushed to the extreme limits of brutality and doing things that are against humanity, and having to keep that up for months, if not years has to break something inside the human psyche. We're not built for that. I mean I used to hear shit from my father that I had never heard mentioned, ever in books or any media.

I know I've mentioned he was in Korea. One time he was telling me about the war, "You know, by the end, the North was hurting so bad for soldiers, China sent kids over. They'd come at you throwing grenades. We encountered them a few times. Squads of kids who were about 12 or 13 who would just come running at you throwing grenades."

I asked him, "What'd you do?" He said, "What do you think we did? We opened up on them."

I said, "That's pretty rough, having to kill kids."

He snapped at me, "What the fuck did you want us to do? They were throwing goddamn grenades at us!"

I wouldn't say my father had PTSD in the normal sense. Cars backfiring didn't send him diving behind the couch or into flashbacks. On the contrary he loved talking about the war and spent most of his retirement watching all kinds of war footage on the history channel. But when he talked about it, he'd talk about the most brutal, insane stuff and he'd usually be laughing about it like he was reminiscing about high school or something. And not on purpose - he wasn't being edgy. It was like he had this weird disconnect that he didn't even realize how brutal the stuff was that he talked about or that it wasn't normal.

One time my niece, who was about 11 at the time, was learning about wars in history class or something - she was over for easter dinner. So she's all excited to ask grandpa about being in a war and just blurts her question out at the table because she's too young to understand how loaded of a question that is. And my father is all animated and just launches into this story about how they were under attack and he got close to a tank and throws a grenade or some explosive inside the tank. Then it goes off and kills everyone in the tank and he decides to go inside and see what he can loot from the tank. And he says that he's climbing into the tank and there's some dead Korean at the bottom of the ladder and he slips and falls down the ladder and his foot goes into the Korean's stomach, which is blown open. And then he starts laughing and says, "Jesus Christ, I was so mad! I had just bought those goddamn boots!"

And everyone at the table - no one's faces had any color and it was dead silent except for my father laughing about messing up his new boots. And it's like, it doesn't even register that this is his 11 year old granddaughter who asked this or even how brutal this story sounds.

And the thing is, I don't think my father and his war experience is anywhere near out of the ordinary. I think a lot of what he casually talked about as normal is the kind of stuff that's swept under the rug and no one ever hears about it unless a vet decides to say something but for most people, they don't understand living at this level of brutality for months or years on end and how it can just completely destroy the human psyche in weird ways and that for hundreds of thousands of soldiers in earlier decades, this kind of brutality was normal, everyday living in war. Aside from the frostbite, my father's body had quite a few scars from bullets. He told me when I had asked about them, "Send you home? They didn't have enough soldiers! If you weren't dead, they'd patch you up and send you back out to fight."

Of course being like that he was far from father of the year. He was one of the most violent people I've ever met - even in his everyday living. We used to plant tomatoes and get those fat worms that are bad for tomato plants. Most people would probably pick them off and throw them in the garbage or spray them with insecticide or something. My father would pick them off the plants, throw them in an empty coffee can, and set them on fire. Just shit like that always had to be tinged with some unnecessary violence.

A much older friend one time helped to put things in perspective for me. He told me, "All the shit your father's been through - from Chosin to the frostbite to getting shot up to fighting the entire Korean war from beginning to end. No one survives that kind of shit and walks out of it like your father did unless they become a psychopath or they were already one. That's the only way you survive that kind of shit. And then you come back to the real world and people are arguing over parking spots or complaining about standing on line at the bank. Your father is probably walking around looking at everyone like they're sheep and he's God after what he survived. And everyone, including you, is just another sheep who hasn't earned the right to live, much less complain. It kind of colors how you deal with people in everyday life."

After he told me that, a lot of my father's behavior made sense. It also made my heart break a little for every vet who's probably carrying a similar load. You can't fix that.
 
Are they saying that all the Ukrainian refugees should go to Zimbabwe to create Rhodesia 2.0? Because that sounds like an absolute win to me, Africa could finally have a country capable of feeding itself again.
Africa already has countries capable of feeding themselves - Botswana (mostly beef in their case), Zambia, the Republic of Congo and Malawi all took in the white farmers who fled Zimbabwe and gave them large tracts of land to cultivate. It would be interesting to see a bunch of Ukrainians end up in Zimbabwe. The white enclaves in Harare and Bulawayo would be very, very confused.
 
I didn't know about the roach incident, just went by what a pilot told me. They don't deserve our planes.
That said most Saudi combat pilots are actually Pakistani, they were the ones that originally helped the Saudis set up their fast jets in the 1960s and their current role in Saudi forces is similar to that of the Cuban forces are in Venezuela, in fact officially Pakistan has 10,000 troops stationed in Saudi Arabia to counter any munities or coup attempts against the king.
 
I totally dipped out to move my entire house to an awesome place where people say "Hello" to each other in English. Ongoing Operation. I might be committing war crimes.

What did I miss? Are the Russkies still losing horribly? Because NBC News says the Russians are losing horribly.....something something Slaughter of Syrians General In Charge now. They have been pushing this bullshit for a week.
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One of the AZOV founders Andriy Biletsky made 9 short vids a few hours ago.
At least one of them is about Russia using chemical weapons in Mariupol.
I don't know what he's saying in the others; my guess it's related. If someone please could translate.


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Uh, not gonna translate it all, I'll just make a summary.
He repeats the same thing that western media had already said with the same lack of detail: chemical weapons were used, not very effective, only 3 people got affected.
And then the usual shitting on Russian side: They know they can't take Mariupol, so Russian terrorists resort to using such underhanded methods for the whole world to see yadda yadda.
"Mariupol will win, Azov will win, Ukraine will win, Slava Ukraini".
I didn't hear anything noteworthy. Maybe someone else did.
 
Uh, not gonna translate it all, I'll just make a summary.
He repeats the same thing that western media had already said with the same lack of detail: chemical weapons were used, not very effective, only 3 people got affected.
And then the usual shitting on Russian side: They know they can't take Mariupol, so Russian terrorists resort to using such underhanded methods for the whole world to see yadda yadda.
"Mariupol will win, Azov will win, Ukraine will win, Slava Ukraini".
I didn't hear anything noteworthy. Maybe someone else did.
"We will win lol" -Man Currently getting 6th Armied at Stalingrad, posted from a factory basement, on wifi he's probably stealing from Russians because they're close enough
 
Not only was Rhodesia abandoned, but they were fucked over by the UK and the USA. Indeed, things went horribly in the end. Sure didn't have to happen. Rhodesia wasn't perfect by any means, but it was far better than just about any sub-Saharan African country.
There's definitely some rose tinted glasses going on with some of the hard-core Rhodesian fanboys, but even it's worst aspects pale in comparison to what happened when Mugabe took over. It's really a tragic tale tbh, it should still be the shining gem of Africa, but the absolute worst leadership imaginable ruined it.
Botswana quickly took up the mantle of the 'gem of Africa' after the election of Mugabe.
Because they were the only colony that refused to hand over leadership to the blacks. Whites were only 5% or so of the population, but it was a way higher percentage than most of the African colonies. Basically they saw what had happened in all the other ones and said "fuck it, we're not seeing everything we built be destroyed". They declared independence, which was a massive embarrassment to the UK government.
Whites maxed out at around 7-7.5% of the Rhodesian population in the mid 70's. Zambia (formerly Northern Rhodesia) to the north didn't end up as poor and destitute as many of the other sub-Saharan African nations (partly due to the lucrative copper industry) and their white minority (at most around 2-3% of the total Zambian population) elected to stay for the most part. Botswana of course was quietly developing into the least corrupt, most civically prosperous state in Africa from the sidelines, thanks to their total anti-communist chad of a first president Sir Seretse Khama and his lovely wife Ruth Williams. The history of Botswana and the Khamas need to be taught more in schools. It shows how a state seemingly doomed to being among the poorest of the poor can turn itself around if the cards are played right.
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Edit: Apologies for going off-topic
 
on wifi he's probably stealing from Russians because they're close enough
Elon Musk gave them Starlink, supposedly.
In 1974 there was a revolution in Portugal. The new government was tired of having large numbers of troops in Angola and Mozambique, so they left, granting both countries independence.
The Colonial war itself was the reason for the revolution. More accurately, it was a military coup by a group of officers that had grown hostile to the war in Africa and they formed a provisional government until democratic elections could be held.
The Kennedy admin was actually pretty critical of the Portuguese stance on Africa because they were taking weapons provided under the NATO agreement and using them in the conflict, but had to back off because the Lajes base in the Azores was extremely important for air mobility and SAC.
I'm well aware lol, I've made that point several times in this thread alone. We probably do have a manual in Cyrillic by now for them however.
Most pilots can understand English. I wonder if Poland has received military flight simulators and lending them out to "guests", though.
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Elon Musk gave them Starlink, supposedly.

The Colonial war itself was the reason for the revolution. More accurately, it was a military coup by a group of officers that had grown hostile to the war in Africa and they formed a provisional government until democratic elections could be held.
The Kennedy admin was actually pretty critical of the Portuguese stance on Africa because they were taking weapons provided under the NATO agreement and using them in the conflict, but had to back off because the Lajes base in the Azores was extremely important for air mobility and SAC.

Most pilots can understand English. I wonder if Poland has received military flight simulators and lending them out to "guests", though.
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That just happened.
 
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