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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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So, big news: we are for sure arming the Ukrainians with 155’s, and likely more helicopters of some style. What is also on the menu is guided artillery rounds, to supplement the native Ukrainian ones. Additional helicopters are likely more Mi-17’s but possibly could be some US made ones.

EDIT: It’s even bigger than I expected.

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This is actually huge. The counter arty radars alone will put the Ukrainians on par with Russian systems. 200 M113’s means the TDF can put up a few mechanized battalions for patrol duty, allowing IFV’s to go to the front. 11 helicopters is a big deal, it means Ukraines airlift capacity increased substantially.
 
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So, big news: we are for sure arming the Ukrainians with 155’s, and likely more helicopters of some style. What is also on the menu is guided artillery rounds, to supplement the native Ukrainian ones. Additional helicopters are likely more Mi-17’s but possibly could be some US made ones.

Bradley is slated to be replaced, giving them a bunch could rapidly accelerate that (much to the cheers of BAE and FMC). Also I wonder if some clapped out MLRS' are on tap, too; buncha those have been around for close to 40 years now.

Hey, we could give them Stryker MGS' but of course we don't hate the Ukrainians and actually want them to win.

As for helos, yeah Mi17s refurbed here in the US or perhaps even Poland or Germany.
 
Philosophy time.

Alexander Dugin has been, what some would call, providing Putin a blueprint on Russian-homo dominance over Globohomo America-homo.

Here are briefs of 60min interview with Dugin in 2017:


there are also wikipedia cliffs on his main work of Geopolitical future of russia

A lot of his sentiment, down to Kuril/Japan policies are very much in line with what Putin has been doing, (and obviously Ukraine, as well as his attitude toward it)


I am kind of curious to get a second opinion if someone doesn't see Putin and Dugin line up. Also, regardless of outcome in Ukraine, it will be fairly hard to proceed with the plan.
 
Bradley is slated to be replaced, giving them a bunch could rapidly accelerate that (much to the cheers of BAE and FMC). Also I wonder if some clapped out MLRS' are on tap, too; buncha those have been around for close to 40 years now.

Hey, we could give them Stryker MGS' but of course we don't hate the Ukrainians and actually want them to win.

As for helos, yeah Mi17s refurbed here in the US or perhaps even Poland or Germany.
We’re sending M113’s, we can easily haul them by air and they’re perfectly fine for patrol duty or to flesh out a mechanized battalion with support vehicles. The battlebox is a solid APC if you treat it right, and remember it’s a taxi, not a race car
 
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Philosophy time.

Alexander Dugin has been, what some would call, providing Putin a blueprint on Russian-homo dominance over Globohomo America-homo.

Here are briefs of 60min interview with Dugin in 2017:


there are also wikipedia cliffs on his main work of Geopolitical future of russia

A lot of his sentiment, down to Kuril/Japan policies are very much in line with what Putin has been doing, (and obviously Ukraine, as well as his attitude toward it)


I am kind of curious to get a second opinion if someone doesn't see Putin and Dugin line up. Also, regardless of outcome in Ukraine, it will be fairly hard to proceed with the plan.
A Russian leader being enthralled with a weird old man with a huge ass beard, where have I heard of that before?
 
supposedly Russian rocket cruiser Moscow has been struck with two Neptune missiles. The ship is on fire. There is a storm going on right now. Search and rescue launched from Russian navy ... this is going to be good. A bunch of telegram channels report this.

Neptune cruise missiles were Ukrainian made. Cruiser Moscow was built in 1976. Finally some real action at sea.

It makes me wander why Neptunes were not used before and what if Neptunes were actually Tridents that were sent not too long ago with possibly US made coastline launchers?
 
supposedly Russian rocket cruiser Moscow has been struck with two Neptune missiles. The ship is on fire. There is a storm going on right now. Search and rescue launched from Russian navy ... this is going to be good. A bunch of telegram channels report this.

Neptune cruise missiles were Ukrainian made. Cruiser Moscow was built in 1976. Finally some real action at sea.
If true, the loss of the Moskva is huge. It is the largest surface combatant in the Black Sea. The Slava-class carry an absolutely insane amount of Anti-Ship Missiles. I have a friend who got a chance to tour this ship actually, and he mentioned it had some issues with its CIWS systems, but that was a decade ago. He wasn’t too impressed.
 
Philosophy time.

Alexander Dugin has been, what some would call, providing Putin a blueprint on Russian-homo dominance over Globohomo America-homo.

Here are briefs of 60min interview with Dugin in 2017:


there are also wikipedia cliffs on his main work of Geopolitical future of russia

A lot of his sentiment, down to Kuril/Japan policies are very much in line with what Putin has been doing, (and obviously Ukraine, as well as his attitude toward it)


I am kind of curious to get a second opinion if someone doesn't see Putin and Dugin line up. Also, regardless of outcome in Ukraine, it will be fairly hard to proceed with the plan.

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Dugin's said some really... interesting shit too, especially before he started pandering to dissident alt-right types. Remember this the next time you hear some /pol/tard say 'no Russian ever called me a racist!'
 
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Dugin's said some really... interesting shit too, especially before he started pandering to dissident alt-right types. Remember this the next time you hear some /pol/tard say 'no Russian ever called me a racist!'
That puts an end to the "based Russian" myth, if dedovshchina didn't already. Not only did they call all of the West, which includes the States, racist but it also proves that Russia is as leftist as it ever has been, only now with a crony-corporatist bent instead of a Communist one, which is still rooted in Marxism anyway.
 
I don't think Putin is dumb. I mean, yeah, the invasion was terrible but to be fair his entire war council was probably being like "RUSSIAN STRONK CAN TAKE TINY POTATO COUNTRY IN WEEK!!" over and over and if you hear a lie nice enough told a million times, you will start to believe it.

Nigga has been doing cloak and dagger for years. After this fuck-up, I would liquidate the entire KGB too out of paranoia and thinking oligarchs trying to pressure them nonstop to mess with the current leadership.
Putin getting himself surrounded with yes men is itself a pretty major failing of his. Happens plenty in the US and other places, but Putin didn't really have the ability to absorb the fallout (financially) from a fuck up the way the US could. Which seems like a pretty fucked up kind of fuck-up on his part, since he easily could have had his country's economy grow over the years and instead decided to go on a war of conquest or whatever bullshit.

Most major countries are focusing on what they can do to ensure the security of their economies and Putin is set back in the old ages thinking he still needs to be worried about other countries simply wanting to invade him. It's not exactly dumb, but it does show he wasn't able to read the room (if that makes sense).
 
Putin getting himself surrounded with yes men is itself a pretty major failing of his. Happens plenty in the US and other places, but Putin didn't really have the ability to absorb the fallout (financially) from a fuck up the way the US could. Which seems like a pretty fucked up kind of fuck-up on his part, since he easily could have had his country's economy grow over the years and instead decided to go on a war of conquest or whatever bullshit.
Russia's economy would never have grown, it's a kleptocratic crony-corporatist state. You can technically start your own business but good luck getting it off the ground with the oligarchs smothering it to death.
 
I can just imagine the cope the Russian government will have to sell to its citizens once they fully lose Ukraine.

"Good news, comrades, we won!"

"Cool, when can I go to holy Kiev?"

"No."
'We had a moral victory'
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The Oryx blog has an account of the Hostomel attack:

By Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans

Six weeks into Russia's invasion of Ukraine it can be argued that the full array of issues affecting the Russian military and its operational planning have been laid bare. Setting out to first seize Kyiv within days in order to have a strong position in negotiations with the West about the future status of Ukraine in exchange for a reduction of sanctions, it suddenly finds itself a month past that deadline with meagre territorial gains, an army in tatters and severe reputational damage, not to mention an economy buckling under some of the heaviest sanctions ever instated on a nation. [1]

Having lost more than 2.500 military vehicles and heavy pieces of military equipment, including at least 480 tanks, Russia has meanwhile been forced to adjust its ambitions to conquering just the Donbass territories of Donetsk and Lugansk with the aid of its proxy forces, aside from the southeastern part of Ukraine that had already been largely secured. [2] Though Russia maintains that its offensive on Kyiv was merely a ruse to keep Ukrainian forces busy while degrading their combat capabilities and advancing elsewhere, and that the retreat from the Kyiv operational zone was to give space for negotations, it doesn't take a skeptic to point out that these are mere face-saving excuses for grave military failures. [3]

Hostomel Airport, located 10 kilometres northwest of Kyiv, played an important part in Russia's plans to cut off Kyiv. Hostomel is the home of Antonov Airlines, the cargo division of the Antonov design bureau, and notably also housed the An-225, the world's largest aircraft, at the time of the Russian assault on the city. Sadly, this awe-inspiring aircraft could not be evacuated in time, and was destroyed during the fighting. The Russian plan entailed the rapid occupation of Hostomel Airport (popularly known as Antonov Airport) so that it could be used as a staging area for the subsequent encirclement and conquest of Kyiv. In keeping with its important role, Hostomel was taken with much fanfare by a heliborne assault using VDV forces on the 24th of February. Even though Ukraine had been made aware that Hostomel was a target by CIA director William J. Burns in January 2022, the speed with which Russia's heliborne operation was conducted still appears to have caught Ukrainian troops by surprise. [4]

During the assault, Mi-35 and Ka-52 attack helicopters operating out of Belarus softened up the airport's defences so that Mi-8 transport helicopters carrying VDV airborne troops could safely land. Over the course of these manoeuvres one Ka-52 was hit by MANPADS before making an emergency landing just outside the airport's perimeter. [5] However, Ukrainian defences were left largely intact and without any meaningful air support, the VDV was soon facing counterattacks by Ukrainian forces.

A dream no more: The destroyed An-225 'Mriya'.​

As the VDV troops battled it out with Ukrainian forces for control over the airport, Russia's ground push from Belarus managed to break through Ukraine's defences near Ivankiv and raced towards Hostomel, running into several Ukrainian ambushes on the way. Nevertheless, Russian troops managed to fully secure Hostomel Airport on the 25th of February. The Russian Army and VDV then set out to turn Hostomel into a forward operating base from which the push on Kyiv could be initiated. It was at this time however that Russia's offensive into Ukraine began to bog down, leading to the forming of the infamous 40-miles-long convoy and complete units that had to halt their push due to a lack of fuel.

Not to be deterred by setbacks elsewhere, newly arrived VDV and Russian Army units attempted to break out of Hostomel Airport into the nearby town and press their advance into Bucha and Irpin. However, these poorly coordinated pushes ran into ambushes in Hostomel and Bucha with significant losses in manpower and equipment as a result. Though the Russian military had prepared for an easy lightning takeover of Ukraine, it now found itself in a situation it had not bargained for, with Russian forces seemingly clueless about where to expect its enemies and how to best combat them. The ambushes in Hostomel and Bucha not only inflicted substantial casualties, but also set in a stark realisation of what was to be expected when advancing further on Kyiv.

The next developments turned out to be crucial. Rather than adapting to the new reality, and looking for ways to deal with it, the VDV and Russian Army around Kyiv largely became a static force, waiting for additional supplies and for the 40-miles-long convoy to advance and complete the encirclement of Kyiv (which would never occur). Faced with poor or absent leadership, a lack of supplies, daily shelling and significant casualties and low morale, the VDV and Russian Army were forced to bunker down, digging in on the roadsides to defend themselves against Ukrainian artillery and drone strikes. Increasingly they began to be pestered by such drones (often scouting targets for artillery) and SOF inflicting heavy casualties during the night, against which Russia is poorly prepared, having invested little in night equipment for its soldiers. All the seeds for an army that would soon turn its guns on civilians and begin looting were planted.

What remains of a Russian convoy that got ambushed by Ukrainian forces in Bucha.​

The situation was entirely analogous in Hostomel, where the VDV and a sizeable Russian Army contingent was stationed waiting for the order for a push on Kyiv that never came, while under constant shelling. On the 4th of March, Russian state-owned television channel Channel One Russia aired footage that already showed large amounts of destroyed Russian equipment struck by Ukrainian artillery scattered around the base. [6] Russian forces stationed here had essentially become sitting ducks, with no order given to advance and no order to retreat.

Relief came only when such an order finally was given on the 29th of March, after which Russian troops at Hostomel began their retreat from Kyiv Oblast. [3] Damaged equipment that couldn't be taken along was blown up, while Ukrainian artillery shelling covered the flight. At Hostomel, such equipment included 16 of the VDV's most modern AFVs, the BMD-4M, and a 1L262E Rtut-BM EW system. Their position indicates they were either destroyed while they were staging to retreat or blown up by the Russians themselves. After Ukrainian troops reentered Hostomel, they encountered evidence of Russians having left in a hurry everywhere, including anything from unopened packages of food, passports, bank cards and even captured Ukrainian armoured vehicles that couldn't be taken back. [7] A video of the carnage can be watched here.

Carnage at Hostomel Airport.​

A detailed list of destroyed and captured Russian vehicles and equipment at Hostomel Airport can be seen below. This list only includes vehicles and equipment destroyed or abandoned on the perimeter of Hostomel Airport. The total amount of equipment captured and destroyed in and around Hostomel itself is far larger than recorded here.

(Click on the numbers to get a picture of each individual captured or destroyed vehicle)

Armoured Fighting Vehicles (7, of which destroyed: 5, recaptured: 2)​


Infantry Fighting Vehicles (23, of which destroyed: 20, damaged: 1, recaptured: 2)​


Armoured Personnel Carriers (3, of which destroyed: 3)​


Towed Artillery (2, of which captured: 2)​


Anti-Aircraft Guns (1, of which captured: 1)​


Jammers And Deception Systems (1, of which destroyed: 1)​


Helicopters (3, of which destroyed: 2, damaged: 1)​


Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps (67, of which destroyed: 64, captured: 2, recaptured: 1)​


Battered and bloody Hostomel stands as a monument to Ukraine's struggles against Russia's invasion force. Like a true David against Goliath, it broke the back of the Russian assault on Kyiv, in the process sadly losing its own gentle giant. Yet like the dream of a Ukrainian nation free from enemies and oppressors, the An-225 Mriya lives on in its unfinished sister airframe. [8] Perhaps its construction, like the construction of this free Ukraine, will someday soon be accomplished.

The second (unfinished) An-225, which Turkey has shown interest in completing. [8]​

[1] Putin thought Russia's military could capture Kyiv in 2 days, but it still hasn't in 20 https://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-russian-forces-could-take-kyiv-ukraine-two-days
[2] Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
[3] Russia in retreat: Putin appears to admit defeat in the Battle for Kyiv https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...pears-to-admit-defeat-in-the-battle-for-kyiv/
[4] Vladimir Putin’s 20-Year March to War in Ukraine—and How the West Mishandled It https://www.wsj.com/articles/vladim...ineand-how-the-west-mishandled-it-11648826461
[5] https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1504790211011571714
[6] https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1499643176998641664
[7] https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1510936820736999424
[8] Sky Giant: Turkey Mulls To Complete The Second Antonov An-225 Mriya https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/01/sky-giant-turkey-mulls-to-complete.html

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Without forgetting the suffering the people of Ukraine, the destruction of the AN-225 was a wretched thing for Russia to do or cause (if destroyed by the defenders in fighting back, it happened as a result of the Kremlin monkey's war).
 
For all his current faults, he's an ex KGB man who was, for all known about him, a consumate professional.

His spy ring guys spent money on hookers and blow in the far east "contacting pro russian ukranians" and screwed the pooch when it came to finding the wellspring of pro-russian support in Ukraine to support the invasion with massive protests.

On a scale of one to "dying in siberia without shoes" how angry do you think he is against those vatniks who went on a vacation instead of doing their jobs?
Putin was a paper-shifting bureaucrat who ascended by eating ass of his superiors, he's no spy
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Dugin's said some really... interesting shit too, especially before he started pandering to dissident alt-right types. Remember this the next time you hear some /pol/tard say 'no Russian ever called me a racist!'
I've seen Putin's chauvinism and imperialistic ideas being attributed to this guy. Happened to hear him at work when a coworker played a video of his that people share in Odnoklassniki (he's a boomer). He talked about how Ukraine can't be independent by definition, that it has to be "reintegrated" back into Russia.
He's a straight up fascist.
 
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Putin is set back in the old ages thinking he still needs to be worried about other countries simply wanting to invade him. It's not exactly dumb, but it does show he wasn't able to read the room (if that makes sense).
I wouldn't say he thinks that way. Seems like people are getting tired of him, so he decided to pull another bullshit war to make everyone pay attention and like him more. See? He got Crimea back! See? Our brave warriors are defending ethnic Russians! Muh 8 years! Muh dead children of DNR! Yass! With so much noise he can collect more power in one hands, boost up his reputation as a leader and pull a few bullshit laws that will disregard even more human rights and keep his ass in president chair, while his own people will fall to poverty further. He does this all the time.
 
supposedly Russian rocket cruiser Moscow has been struck with two Neptune missiles. The ship is on fire. There is a storm going on right now. Search and rescue launched from Russian navy ... this is going to be good. A bunch of telegram channels report this.

Neptune cruise missiles were Ukrainian made. Cruiser Moscow was built in 1976. Finally some real action at sea.

It makes me wander why Neptunes were not used before and what if Neptunes were actually Tridents that were sent not too long ago with possibly US made coastline launchers?
Allegedly Neptune's only had a training battery prior to the war, maybe getting it operational on the fly still took a good two months. I could believe it.

Alternatively, they noted that the ship is in rough waters. I'm no expert on anti-ship missile defenses, but I would speculate that spotting sea skimming missiles in choppy waters and getting a good enough lock on to intercept them is difficult. Perhaps the Ukrainians just bided their time for when the ship was vulnerable rather than waste what few precious Anti-Ship capabilities they had available.

I will add, I believe this claim - well, I believe they have hit a Russian ship - because if it's a lie it's fucking stupid. Russia could quash it in a moment with a few photographs and undermine Ukrainian credibility.

Update: OSINTdefender Twitter account, who I would rate as high in terms of credibility, is stating that something has been hit as distress signals have been intercepted from the stricken vessel.
 
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