Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Nationalistbrother1776]

I look at them to remind myself and others this is what happens in war.

The worst feeling in the world is seeing your friend that morning go on mission and then he never comes back.....

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

The picture wasn't for the ship in question, it was the Admiral Kuznetsov which was damaged in a fire back in 2019. The ship that was supposedly hit was a cruiser named the Moskva. I feel like it's going to turn out to be a flash fire from someone mishandling ammunition. I say this mainly because there are other Russian warships in the area and they would have certainly glassed the area with their own surface to surface missiles as soon as the missile was fired. Also worth noting is that the tards screaming about it being the flagship of the Russian navy are indeed retarded. It's the flagship of the Black sea fleet which is one of the smallest fleets in the Russian Navy and is only really meant for coastal operations since the Montreux accord makes investing in a major fleet in the black sea kind of pointless. The Moskva only has a displacement of 12,490 tons. A Kirov class has a displacement of 24,300 tons and there are several of them in the Northern Fleet.

Thanks for continuing to post actual info

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

The picture wasn't for the ship in question, it was the Admiral Kuznetsov which was damaged in a fire back in 2019. The ship that was supposedly hit was a cruiser named the Moskva. I feel like it's going to turn out to be a flash fire from someone mishandling ammunition. I say this mainly because there are other Russian warships in the area and they would have certainly glassed the area with their own surface to surface missiles as soon as the missile was fired. Also worth noting is that the tards screaming about it being the flagship of the Russian navy are indeed retarded. It's the flagship of the Black sea fleet which is one of the smallest fleets in the Russian Navy and is only really meant for coastal operations since the Montreux accord makes investing in a major fleet in the black sea kind of pointless. The Moskva only has a displacement of 12,490 tons. A Kirov class has a displacement of 24,300 tons and there are several of them in the Northern Fleet.

Private Ivan sneaking off for a smoke break in unsafe areas has long been the bane of the Russian military. You could not pay me enough to work in any area they handle munitions.

 

[ForTheHoard]

The picture wasn't for the ship in question, it was the Admiral Kuznetsov which was damaged in a fire back in 2019. The ship that was supposedly hit was a cruiser named the Moskva. I feel like it's going to turn out to be a flash fire from someone mishandling ammunition. I say this mainly because there are other Russian warships in the area and they would have certainly glassed the area with their own surface to surface missiles as soon as the missile was fired. Also worth noting is that the tards screaming about it being the flagship of the Russian navy are indeed retarded. It's the flagship of the Black sea fleet which is one of the smallest fleets in the Russian Navy and is only really meant for coastal operations since the Montreux accord makes investing in a major fleet in the black sea kind of pointless. The Moskva only has a displacement of 12,490 tons. A Kirov class has a displacement of 24,300 tons and there are several of them in the Northern Fleet.

I forgot to mention that the "one aircraft distracted everyone" story is shit. They may not have intercepted the missile but they sure as shit would have seen it coming.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Please rise for a moment of cringe
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God damnit it's shit like this that makes me almost sympathize with Russia...

 

[Nationalistbrother1776]

The memes, begun they have
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Nikka you wrong for this one

 

[Bush King]

Why would anyone be scared of telling Putin this? Its warfare and its not the first time Putin has been leader during wartime as well. I assure you Russia is quite acquainted with SNAFU.

There's a big difference between Putin today and Putin in 2000, or Medvedev and Georgia in 2008. The regime in Russia now is much more centralised and dictatorial than it was under the Soviets, where the Politburo and Supreme Soviet could at times completely contradict the General Secretary. In the Union your power was based on how the Secretary was able to juggle the demands of reformers and hardliners, and what the balance of Soviet was with those groups, with people like Brezhnev being able to exert enough influence and brokering to ensure that this power sharing arrangement was always leading to him. Russia in 2000 was similar, Putin was chosen by Yeltsin to succeed him because he was a relative nobody that most of the powerful heads could agree to compromise on. It's been nothing but 20 years of consolidation however, quite similar to China now, where both Putin and Xi have conducted "anti-corruption" campaigns against power bases that could oppose their ability to exert dictatorial rule.

When those in power have reached a point where they have almost complete internal security for their regime they inherently do not listen to those who offer critiques or even lightly oppose the goals of the leader. You can see this with the speech Sergei Naryshkin was gave before the invasion and the subsequent dressing down Putin gave. Sergei was basically all on board with grey area operations in Donetsk and Luhansk but was advising against a full scale invasion and Putin brought the hammer down. You cannot go against the directives of the leader because that would imply the leader is not infallible, and if they are fallible then they lose any claim an ostensibly effective regime has to total control- you give up your freedom, they give effective rule, and anyone who might even offer a slightly different vision is a potential center point of opposition and must be hammered into place.

This is all to say that, yes, Putin isn't an idiot nor is he unfamiliar with the realities of warfare, but the realities of politics remains far more important than the realities of war. I've said my opinion before, but it's important to understand my view of his actions- Russia has slowly lost all external supporters in the past decade, to the point not even Kazakhstan was willing to provide any support to the invasion. Belarus is entirely reliant on Russia. If there is any real threat to Putin's regime, he has nowhere to find sanctuary and nowhere to build an oppositional base of power. Ukraine under the Russian-aligned leaders was his last safe bet, and that's gone now, probably forever. Putin doesn't want to end up Gaddafi'd in the streets of Moscow by a naked feminist activist.

In this context, the politics is more important than military efficiency, and in that context the military is going to be scared to actually give accurate information for fear of whatever reaction the regime will hand down.

 

[JambledUpWords]

God damnit it's shit like this that makes me almost sympathize with Russia...

Reddit manages to make some things I agree with into cringe. The custom avatars a lot use these days just make it look worse

 

[mr.moon1488]

Private Ivan sneaking off for a smoke break in unsafe areas has long been the bane of the Russian military. You could not pay me enough to work in any area they handle munitions.

Lol I feel like it's going to be alcohol-related.

 

[Sammich]

They could do it on their own time away from my work area where I don't want Me and my team to get blown away. Suck my Dick

"muh dik"

I didn't expect much else from your nigger brain. You can't understand anything but selfishness, greed and unwarranted pride.

 

[JosephStalin]

Interesting story, but nothing we didn't know here a while back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/images-of-russian-trucks-say-much-about-its-militarys-struggles-in-ukraine/ar-AAWcHM6?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz

https://archive.ph/qBKoa

 

[Techpriest]

I forgot to mention that the "one aircraft distracted everyone" story is shit. They may not have intercepted the missile but they sure as shit would have seen it coming.

>They would have seen it coming
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No. See, the thing about sea skimming missiles is they're really really hard to pick up at range, hell, until they cross the horizon line they're pretty much invisible. That's pretty close. If you've got your search and targeting radar turned to one direction, you're not going to be dialed into other threats. So, missile comes over the horizon, goes active on you, and you now have thirty seconds to shit your pants because guess what, you're now down to two OSA launchers because they're inside the minimum range of your S-300's.

 

[Scipio Americanus]

A veritable paradise for @BoxerShorts47

Fuck you. You made me curious, and I spent the last 2 hours spelunking down the rabbithole that is BoxerShorts.

 

[3-2-1836]

Ukraine sunk the Russian flagship but Russia captured half of Ukraine. Am I understanding this correctly?

Are we winning yet, Ukrainebros??

Ukraine sunk their own flagship within 96 hours of the war starting.

 

[Nationalistbrother1776]

"muh dik"

I didn't expect much else from your nigger brain. You can't understand anything but selfishness, greed and unwarranted pride.

Lol When have I come off as prideful? I would really love to know the source of your resentment..

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Lol I feel like it's going to be alcohol-related.

That's going to be true even if it was a ukie strike. Probably on both sides then.

 

[Sammich]

Oh man, This post aged super well.

About as well as you calling hunter's laptop disinformation. Man that was stupid.

Lol When have I come off as prideful? I would really love to know the source of your resentment..

You absolute smooth brained walking stereotype. You came into this thread with your prideful bullshit, most of your posts are trying to somehow dunk on white people that give a shit about their race. I really don't want to turn this into some bullshit back and forth about race, but good lord, that's all you talk about. That's all you people ever want to talk about. On the internet i don't give a shit who are what you are outside of being a pedo, black brown or any mix thereof. But that's all you keep going back too. race race race.

Where is my resentment coming from? I have a terminal case of nigger fatigue, i don't want to have to be around you, i don't want to be subjected to your retardation, i don't wanna be subjected to your half smart takes.

Maybe you don't see yourself that way, but you sure come across as someone that has so much tied into their race, they can't help but vomit that shit everywhere.

I tried to explain why folks gave a shit about animals in a warzone, and you responded by telling me to suck your dick. And you wonder why i respond the way i do

 

[draggs]

Ukraine sunk the Russian flagship but Russia captured half of Ukraine. Am I understanding this correctly?

Are we winning yet, Ukrainebros??

Half?

More like 15% now that they withdrew everything west of Kharkov

The big banger that Putin keeps not starting for some reason is intended to get that half

Maybe

At least a third

He should start pretty soon though, at a certain point waiting and waiting to amass more forces hits diminishing returns hard. Ask the Germs at Kursk

 

[MrJokerRager]

Bringing in some new memes from the folks at chug..













Quite a lot of NATO memes as earlier mentioned.

Spoiler: NATO UBER ALLES

And the rest.

Spoiler: Z

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

When those in power have reached a point where they have almost complete internal security for their regime they inherently do not listen to those who offer critiques or even lightly oppose the goals of the leader. You can see this with the speech Sergei Naryshkin was gave before the invasion and the subsequent dressing down Putin gave. Sergei was basically all on board with grey area operations in Donetsk and Luhansk but was advising against a full scale invasion and Putin brought the hammer down. You cannot go against the directives of the leader because that would imply the leader is not infallible, and if they are fallible then they lose any claim an ostensibly effective regime has to total control- you give up your freedom, they give effective rule, and anyone who might even offer a slightly different vision is a potential center point of opposition and must be hammered into place.

Sergei Naryshkin was giving a speech that was so obtuse and incomprehensible that nobody understood it and Putin wanted it to be made clear both for the people present and those who would watch the video later. Narshkin was basically giving such a pointless speech that it boiled down to "Many people have said many things and I support it!" only for Putin to forcefully clarify that Russia's stance wasn't to incorporate Donetsk and Luhansk but rather to recognize them as independent states. If you watch over the course of the speech Putin took off his watch and kept glancing at it while drumming his fingers impatiently as Naryshkin was rambling on about nonsense. I'll forgive the guy for getting irritated by political creatures that always speak in vague language to be agreeable with everyone. If anything this just shows that Putin isn't exactly lopping off the heads of everyone like Stalin who would have had the guy gulag'd for being such a waste of space.

Also I don't feel that Russia is any more "dictatorial" than any other state in Europe. Merkel was in office for nearly as long as Putin yet we're not lambasting her and Germany for being a corrupt shithole. Sometimes the voters will vote for the mediocre stable figure over the idealist because they're content with the status quo. Russia fucking sucks and nobody expects anything to change any time soon, why put some dipshit in there and capsize the boat for no reason? If we look at leaders since the Tsardom ended, Putin is probably the most even keeled and stable figure they've had aside from Brezhnev. He isn't some bloody tyrant like Lenin or Stalin, nor a reckless gambler like Khrushchev. Nor is he part as shit as the revolving door to graveyard immediate post Brezhnev. Gorbachev literally crashed the USSR and Yeltsin deepened the crisis. Putin has had his flaws for sure but he isn't rocking the boat too much until recently.

The UK bans parties that are too spicy, Macron uses his banking clout to ensure that Le Pen can't get financing for her political campaigns, Italy has the mafia involved in politics, the US had its political cabal steal an election with video proof of ballot stuffing in multiple states. Russia gets a bad rap because... what? They intervene and crush literal Western plant politicians like Alexei Navalny? Russia is almost a mirror image of the US at this point, the political establishment has been in power an excessively long time and use the levers of power against the opposition. Almost every "Democracy" in the world right now is a corrupt cesspool of geriatric pricks that need to go, Russia is no different.