Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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No. "Alice" and the other confused guy can get their own threads.

Olly has much more to give, himself. It'll be a subtle decay, for connoisseurs. Please don't dilute it.
I see your point, but I don't know if the other two are worth their own thread. I don't see why we can't keep this mostly about Olly but also make it an unofficial spot for Devon/Alice content. They're sort of like our princess's ladies-in-waiting after all.
 
We could make another thread if someone wants to compile info for one of those excellent first posts. There is the bread tube aka contrapoints dickriders club thread…. Could make something similar
Alice and Devon would make such a good ~let’s break this down~ first post
And they’d be so mad
 
YES! This is exactly what it reminded me of. He makes a demand for some non-existent right he believes troons are entitled to, then he goes into a power stance, puts on a serious frown and tilts his head up to bask in the applause of his loyal followers. Watch one of his speeches then compare it to Fidel Castro or Hitler or Mussolini speaking and you'll notice the similarities. I bet you anything that somewhere in the back of his giant head he's nursing dreams of a political career.

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Mmm, I'm not sure about that. His parents are presumably well-off, but it's not like he's the fucking Duke of Westminster or something. He may be posh, but he's definitely low-tier posh.



There was some discussion earlier about him being able to afford to buy a house. I'm not convinced. If he could, why hasn't he done so already? Surely he must want a creepy troon castle just like Contra has?

How much info do we have on the state of his finances? If @Ninon42 's calculations are correct, then it's kind of terrifying how much he makes, but then again something just doesn't add up. He doesn't seem to be living an opulent lifestyle. He rents (shares?) a flat. He lives in the more upmarket part of East London, so not cheap, but it's not as pricey as other parts of London. He wears frumpy tat he buys off the Internet. He admitted that he couldn't afford to get a Versace sweater for Contra and had to ask for it back - I bet it was absurdly overpriced, but it wouldn't break the bank if he's earning 30k a month. His FFS turned out to be very minimal, which might just be out of restraint on his part, but it would also have been a fraction of the price of a full FFS procedure. Does he have some massive debt we don't know about? Are the overheads on his pretentious videos just too high?
Nah man, his surname is Lennard. That’s a french surname- there’s a massive difference in the uk still between french surnames and Celtic ones.
He’ll be part of the normans who cane over with the invasion and set up to fuck us over.
You can even look up his family line.

Lmfao Musso stance on point tho

RE his apparent frugality, that’s just how rich people are. They know not to waste money. Add into this he doesn’t have any taste , a few lies and exaggerations about ‘house prices’, he’s perfectly fine he’s just keeping up appearances
 
Nah man, his surname is Lennard. That’s a french surname- there’s a massive difference in the uk still between french surnames and Celtic ones.
He’ll be part of the normans who cane over with the invasion and set up to fuck us over.
You can even look up his family line.

Lmfao Musso stance on point tho

RE his apparent frugality, that’s just how rich people are. They know not to waste money. Add into this he doesn’t have any taste , a few lies and exaggerations about ‘house prices’, he’s perfectly fine he’s just keeping up appearances
According to the information I can gather online, Lennard is a Germanic name, so probably Anglo-Saxon or Viking. Anyway, even if it is Norman, people get mixed up after a thousand years.

These poor sods who got shipped off to Australia for example definitely never went to Eton:
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As for how rich people are - that's a bit of a blanket statement. Having money =/= being good with money. Some rich people might know not to spend it all once, but plenty don't. Consider the Dukes of Manchester, who were at one time among the wealthiest and most respected members of the British aristocracy. A hundred years later and this is the current head of the family:

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Totally broke, currently serving time (unless he got released recently) in Nevada for fraud and burglary. Money: gone. Country houses: gone. Lands: gone. That's a result of four generations of just throwing money away on stupid bullshit (their story's worth looking up by the way if anyone's interested).

And yeah, of course Olly's fine. I'm just not sure he's all that rich. I'm willing to be proved wrong though of course.
 
According to the information I can gather online, Lennard is a Germanic name, so probably Anglo-Saxon or Viking. Anyway, even if it is Norman, people get mixed up after a thousand years.

These poor sods who got shipped off to Australia for example definitely never went to Eton:
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As for how rich people are - that's a bit of a blanket statement. Having money =/= being good with money. Some rich people might know not to spend it all once, but plenty don't. Consider the Dukes of Manchester, who were at one time among the wealthiest and most respected members of the British aristocracy. A hundred years later and this is the current head of the family:

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Totally broke, currently serving time (unless he got released recently) in Nevada for fraud and burglary. Money: gone. Country houses: gone. Lands: gone. That's a result of four generations of just throwing money away on stupid bullshit (their story's worth looking up by the way if anyone's interested).

And yeah, of course Olly's fine. I'm just not sure he's all that rich. I'm willing to be proved wrong though of course.
You can research his baronet line, we went through it miles ago on the thread.
He’s old old old money, related to Charles the 1st

According to the information I can gather online, Lennard is a Germanic name, so probably Anglo-Saxon or Viking. Anyway, even if it is Norman, people get mixed up after a thousand years.

These poor sods who got shipped off to Australia for example definitely never went to Eton:
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As for how rich people are - that's a bit of a blanket statement. Having money =/= being good with money. Some rich people might know not to spend it all once, but plenty don't. Consider the Dukes of Manchester, who were at one time among the wealthiest and most respected members of the British aristocracy. A hundred years later and this is the current head of the family:

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Totally broke, currently serving time (unless he got released recently) in Nevada for fraud and burglary. Money: gone. Country houses: gone. Lands: gone. That's a result of four generations of just throwing money away on stupid bullshit (their story's worth looking up by the way if anyone's interested).

And yeah, of course Olly's fine. I'm just not sure he's all that rich. I'm willing to be proved wrong though of course.
Very generous of you to olly, but this is his little lineage.

Trust, he even shows off about it in his ‘why I want to rape the queen’ video. I mean fuck. Whatever.
 
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Apparently Olly agrees he’s a narcissistic opportunist. This person excoriates Olly and he a) scours the comments reading up on himself and b) try’s to damage control by agreeing and engaging.

Person: You’re a disgusting narcissist, everything you do is calculated.

Oliver: Thank you for your feedback, it’s appreciated and I’ll think more about your valid points.

Lol.

It is amazing how you can always see when he is actually worried enough about someone’s opinion to change his behavior. His language changes to that excessively casual tone, he adds “lol” at the end of everything, and plays up the self-deprecation and introspection.

Then he can’t keep it up for long because it’s fake, and quickly slides back to his normal tone (either contempt for those who can’t offer him anything, or toadying up to those who can).

You can research his baronet line, we went through it miles ago on the thread.
He’s old old old money, related to Charles the 1st


Very generous of you to olly, but this is his little lineage.

Trust, he even shows off about it in his ‘why I want to rape the queen’ video. I mean fuck. Whatever.

Yeah, I posted earlier in the thread about one of his more famous ancestors (Anne Lennard), the supposed daughter of Charles II, who was many things Olly is not (actually interesting, bisexual, a woman)
 
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Like I've said before, I'm 100% certain that he's going to incorporate the transgender fascination with transhumanism into this. Also maybe it's just me but that costume looks terrible on him, I can't believe he has a professional stylist on hand.
 

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Great hairstyle to make his already long face look even longer.
Like I've said before, I'm 100% certain that he's going to incorporate the transgender fascination with transhumanism into this. Also maybe it's just me but that costume looks terrible on him, I can't believe he has a professional stylist on hand.
Ooof, bad idea (or great idea depending on how you see it). "Transhumanism" is bordering on "transracialism" (aka Dolezal) and connecting those dots will just further weaker any argument for "transgender" for the normies.
 
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Like I've said before, I'm 100% certain that he's going to incorporate the transgender fascination with transhumanism into this. Also maybe it's just me but that costume looks terrible on him, I can't believe he has a professional stylist on hand.
That would have been an expensive piece. Possibly custom? That might explain the render. Unfortunately with latex, trying to "cinch" your waist in with a skinny belt just gives you belly rolls. (Also dear God he needs a makeup artist who stands up to his stupid ideas, again with the too-pale lips).

He's really gone all in on what Kevin would call "hecking mommy milkers", too. I wonder if he's wearing one of those silicone doll masker breastplates or the latex suit is inflatable in some way?
 
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Like I've said before, I'm 100% certain that he's going to incorporate the transgender fascination with transhumanism into this. Also maybe it's just me but that costume looks terrible on him, I can't believe he has a professional stylist on hand.
Scanning for non delusional life forms... None detected. Conceit measuring at unpresidented levels. Mandible jutting at a level seen only in males. Self inflicted estrogen gynomastia producing an error in non troon complicit subjects. First ever sighting of an individual belting a PVC suit - illogical.

Moobs are one of the worst things to come out of troonery and the worst part of it is hes probably proud of them lol.
 
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just normal nonbinary feminist podcaster humor god things 🥰🌸💕✨

It is my absolute favorite thing when troons try to insult normal people by saying they look trans. It would be like me trying to insult some random woman by saying she looks like a feminist.

Trannies: "Haha, these TERFs (normal women) are so ugly that they look like trannies!"

Normal women: "Holy shit, really? I must do everything in my power to avoid such a cruel fate!"
 
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Apparently Olly agrees he’s a narcissistic opportunist. This person excoriates Olly and he a) scours the comments reading up on himself and b) try’s to damage control by agreeing and engaging.

Person: You’re a disgusting narcissist, everything you do is calculated.

Oliver: Thank you for your feedback, it’s appreciated and I’ll think more about your valid points.

Lol.
Lmao

Olly going about his day:
"Tra La La, oh I am so happy to be a real true and honest lesbian as proven by many lesbian exes, time to go to my segregated healthcare facility and cry stoic tears at the harsh mistreatment of trans women as I get my hormones"
"Oh whats this? An impromptu protest concerning trans rights that I happened to walk past at this moment in time with no prior knowledge of whatsoever despite my desire to be a major trans activist being pretty much my entire defining feature for the last 2 years? Also this is literally outside of 10 Downing street and a major piece of legislation that concerns trans people was just passed but I still had no idea about this? Tee Hee well let me see whats the haps here babes..."
"Oh my, it seems that that I have been pushed to the front of the crowd by my loyal fanbase, as of course everybody happens to recognize who I am despite being a random onlooker in a big crowd and are happy to get me to the front with no planning whatsoever I guess since they didn't have enough speakers and they need one right now for this big protest that most likely has drawn trans activists from across the country? Well babes if you say so!"
"And how about that, they let me have the megaphone in this totally completely spontaneous series of events as I stumble upon this protest and now I can really display my amazing public charisma as I throw together this speech out of nowhere, which of course primarily concerns my experiences, but as the most famous trans person in the UK really my experiences can reliably stand in for the trans movement as a whole. Of course some people may fear that my speech is meandering, unfocused and absurdly narcissistic, but luckily in this completely organic public appearance that just happened to happen I managed to put together another piece or oratorical art, Cicero himself would hang up his hat from having seen little old me on the stage today"
"Thank you my trans brothers and sisters *sniff*, I'm sorry if I seem overcome with emotion but its all just so beautiful that you recognize my luminous star, don't worry, if we fight hard I will definitely become an A list actress and someday I'll be cast in an Oscar winning drama alongside Elliot Page and Sir Ian Mckellen about a hard working youtube celebrity who has to toil for minutes every day reading Wikipedia summaries of Kant and agonize over which shitty cheap dress I wear in those videos while only making an upper middle class income from Patreon and not a Lower Upper class income as I grew up with. Don't forget to watch Django, out this summer! Oh yeah trans power or something, sorry what were we protesting again?"
 
It is my absolute favorite thing when troons try to insult normal people by saying they look trans. It would be like me trying to insult some random woman by saying she looks like a feminist.

Trannies: "Haha, these TERFs (normal women) are so ugly that they look like trannies!"

Normal women: "Holy shit, really? I must do everything in my power to avoid such a cruel fate!"
Its one of those things where they give the game away, grr, look at these gender non-conforming women, they are so ugly! Women shouldn't be ugly, they should be dainty and precious like a little delicate flower, that is the essence of femininity!

Its cope, because at the end of the day, even if you've lost 40% of your face from some horrible flesh eating bacteria combined with horrific grease burns, if you got a vagina, XX chromosomes and the works, you are still a woman no matter what, and try as they might to imitate the surface level attributes of femininity as much as possible, they'll never have that.
 
Also maybe it's just me but that costume looks terrible on him, I can't believe he has a professional stylist on hand.
There's tons of absolutely terrible stylists out there. It's not like you need to be trained and licensed. And in any case, pretty sure Olly wouldn't be talked out of this outfit anyway.
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Because it's a fetish. It's springtime and we're witnessing his fetish and kink blossoming like a delicate flower. A perverted flower with the smuggest smile. Look how quickly it's gone from "Please, I just want dignity for my true female essence" to "Please, insert the greased pig dildo, Mistress". Textbook.


"Oh whats this? An impromptu protest concerning trans rights that I happened to walk past at this moment in time with no prior knowledge of whatsoever despite my desire to be a major trans activist being pretty much my entire defining feature for the last 2 years? Also this is literally outside of 10 Downing street and a major piece of legislation that concerns trans people was just passed but I still had no idea about this? Tee Hee well let me see whats the haps here babes..."
Just hilarious that he tried to pull off lying about that shit. Surprised he didn't bring his own pink megaphone.
Why wouldn't he know about the event if he cares about trans issues so much? Isn't that how these things are organized, that word is spread widely days before the event so that crowds show up? How could he be so out of the loop of trans activists and allies to be oblivious about this action in his own backyard? Oh yeah, because he's lying, incompetently.
 
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I see your point, but I don't know if the other two are worth their own thread. I don't see why we can't keep this mostly about Olly but also make it an unofficial spot for Devon/Alice content. They're sort of like our princess's ladies-in-waiting after all.
I agree. This thread need them. The fetishistic insanity of Alice and the textbook male narcissism of Devon make for the perfect palate cleansers between servings of Tube. They compliment her so well, and they keep the tread moving at a healthy pace. They are the rodeo clowns.
If we banish them to a separate thread it will prompt "keep it to the Alice thread" comments. When it comes down to it, you lot are the crew I want to see pick Alice apart with exquisite precision on the reg.

Anyway. I know opinions on Contra are split to put it mildly, but I can't help but compare this uninspired, half-assed fetish futurism with her Digital Messiah-look.
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The latex is there, but it is otherwise so rich by comparison. The acrylics that seem to connect to some neverending server room? Fucking neat. You got "the world at your fingertips". You've got marionette imagery. As false nails are seen as the epitome of performative femininity ("your hands are no longer tools, but ornaments at the end of your arms" as her transmed character Justine puts it in a different video) the acrylic tendrils say something about performing femininity online as a bid for power. Also, hilariously, she looks like the end of a literal terminally-online-incel to AGP pipeline. To my terf eyes this is the personification of the modern trans movement: a form of life inseparable from the internet.

What I am saying is, there is a lot to interpret. And this one, high-effort look showed up for perhaps 45 seconds in a 34 minute video.
Tube's best effort? A man in a gimp suit and visor glasses. He is so fundamentally empty.
 
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It's wild how many leftists are massive open misogynists.
Keffals with his tik toks, Vaush with his women shut up challenge, now this.

Any reason why this is?
As for leftoids generally, there's no particular reason I don't think. Lefties are just as racist, sexist etc. as right wingers in most ways, they're just less direct and dress it up in woke language. Which is to me in some ways worse - it's insidious and sly. As for the trannies, they're generally misogynistic by default, just by virtue of the fact 90% of them are AGP with sexually predatory tendencies and even the ones who aren't think being a woman is a matter of feelings and stereotypes.

There's tons of absolutely terrible stylists out there. It's not like you need to be trained and licensed. And in any case, pretty sure Olly wouldn't be talked out of this outfit anyway.
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Because it's a fetish. It's springtime and we're witnessing his fetish and kink blossoming like a delicate flower. A perverted flower with the smuggest smile. Look how quickly it's gone from "Please, I just want dignity for my true female essence" to "Please, insert the greased pig dildo, Mistress". Textbook.
I agree. This thread need them. The fetishistic insanity of Alice and the textbook male narcissism of Devon make for the perfect palate cleansers between servings of Tube. They compliment her so well, and they keep the tread moving at a healthy pace. They are the rodeo clowns.
If we banish them to a separate thread it will prompt "keep it to the Alice thread" comments. When it comes down to it, you lot are the crew I want to see pick Alice apart with exquisite precision on the reg.

Anyway. I know opinions on Contra are split to put it mildly, but I can't help but compare this uninspired, half-assed fetish futurism with her Digital Messiah-look.
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The latex is there, but it is otherwise so rich by comparison. The acrylics that seem to connect to some neverending server room? Fucking neat. You got "the world at your fingertips". You've got marionette imagery. As false nails are seen as the epitome of performative femininity ("your hands are no longer tools, but ornaments at the end of your arms" as her transmed character Justine puts it in a different video) the acrylic tendrils say something about performing femininity online as a bid for power. Also, hilariously, she looks like the end of a literal terminally-online-incel to AGP pipeline. To my terf eyes this is the personification of the modern trans movement: a form of life inseparable from the internet.

What I am saying is, there is a lot to interpret. And this one, high-effort look showed up for perhaps 45 seconds in a 34 minute video.
Tube's best effort? A man in a gimp suit and visor glasses. He is so fundamentally empty.
Seconded that Alice and Devon fit into this thread fine.
Not a fan of Contra here, but it is true that he puts more effort into his costume designs. He does spend much longer than Ollie making any given video, and probably has a little more money. But PT is far from strapped for cash and still usually gets around over a month to put a video together which is also ample time. I think it's literally just that Contra has a genuine interest in fashion and flamboyance that PT never has, Contra at least was into fashion and crossdressing pre-troon. I don't personally like Contra's style, but he definitely makes an attempt to coordinate outfits and use costumes relevant to whatever he's rambling about on camera. Tube as always seems only bothered about putting himself on display as much as possible - this outfit is not something I'd necessarily associate with "Transhumanism" either (I know he's going for that futuristic cyborg-y look, it just doesn't translate very well visually. Only way I can really tell it's meant to be that is those glasses). This is not the first time he's worn one of these tight latex things (cough MechanicTube cough), which to be honest, don't look good on him. And we're meant to think he's coy and doesn't like to eat on camera and so forth - where a page or two back in this thread we saw him deepthroating a massive fuck-off slice of pizza in the middle of the street and here wearing a skin-tight suit with a belt over it squishing his gut. The demure LARP meets the narcissistic need for attention.
 
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