Culture I Gave My Partner of 3 Years an Ultimatum, and Now I'm Single - Woman wants crotch goblins, man doesn't, wmoman dumps him


In November of 2021, I was officially three years into a relationship with my former partner. While the first year and a half of the relationship had progressed well, the second half had grown stagnant. As cliché as it might sound, I began to feel as if we were moving in different directions. So I got prepared to have a difficult conversation. I decided to give my partner an ultimatum.

For couples who meet at university, it can be hard to gauge how much your respective careers will define your lives after college. I began working when I was 16 and secured a job in my industry five months post-graduation. My former partner, on the other hand, struggled in his job search and was still without employment two and a half years after graduating. For me, this became a barrier to the goals I had for the future, including moving in together, getting married, and having kids.

While I had always been open about my desires for marriage (I drunkenly shared my wedding Pinterest board about six months into dating) as well as my plans to have kids (including that I didn't think I'd be financially ready until I was 35), my partner had always remained a hard shrug on all of the above. Everything was "I don't know" and "maybe," which became stress-inducing as I started to lay out my future. His answers to these questions often felt like a cop-out — a way of keeping his options open. "I don't know" if I want to marry you because what if I want to marry someone else? "Maybe" I want kids, but maybe not because then we'd be linked forever. Needless to say, his lack of commitment to a future together preyed on my insecurities.

By November 2021, I decided that I could no longer live with the idea that I would "maybe" need to sacrifice the things I really wanted out of life if I stayed with this person. So I told him I needed firm commitments about what I could expect in the future: a commitment to one day getting engaged and one day having a child. In that conversation, I voiced that I feared his lack of employment would be a barrier to us taking the next step in our relationship.

He immediately grew defensive and insisted that "I don't know" was an answer, and that I should be understanding of that. I pointed out that I had been understanding for several years, but that he was now 27 years old and it was time to at least have an idea of what the future would hold for us. After he tried using "maybe" a few times, I finally said, "I need a 'yes' or 'no,' because I cannot keep relying on 'maybe' when maybe could mean no, and no could mean I don't get my dreams." I told him that if it was a "no," I would be leaving.

The ultimatum revealed what he had been too cowardly to say all along. He was not going to give me the life that I wanted.
When faced with an ultimatum, my partner said that he was pretty sure he didn't want to get married or have children. I was shocked to hear him say, "I think if I had kids, I would resent them." The ultimatum revealed what he had been too cowardly to say all along. He was not going to give me the life that I wanted. Instead, we would live the casual one that he desired as he continued to shoot down my requests with "maybes." When I asked why he didn't think it was important to share his intentions with me, he simply replied, "I thought you loved me enough to not need those things." It was then I knew that I was right to propose the ultimatum. The person I thought I would one day marry saw my dreams as trivial. He prioritized himself and the things that made him happy while actively deceiving me. He knew that I would never get what I wanted out of the relationship.

Suddenly, I was single, and yet I felt free. The ultimatum had revealed that this relationship wasn't the right fit. My partner didn't share my goals for the future, nor did he respect me enough to tell me that he didn't intend to get married or have children. If I had stayed in the relationship, I would have wasted years of my life only to get my heart broken anyway. And, if I had chosen to simply break up with him without getting my questions answered, I probably always would have wondered if we would have eventually gotten married had I just stuck it out.

The ultimatum and subsequent breakup may have hurt, but it gave me the information I needed to heal and to know what to look for in my next relationship. It really was like ripping off a bandage. I hated how it felt when I got the answer, but the quickness of it prevented drawn-out pain. I feel at peace knowing that I made the right choice to ensure that I have a chance at the future I desperately want.
 
bullshit. sticking with an unemployed manchild who is incapable of serious commitment would have been a retarded decision by her. what's the point in staying in a relationship when your partner straight up tells you that it has no future? she'd just be wasting her time.
They both dodged a bullet, tbh

Too many fucking people stick with incompatible people just because they feel the need to be with someone, or something like that.

She wants kids, he don't. Simple as.

Her making a whole article about it though does kind of feel like cope, but whatever you gotta do to move on I guess.
 
They both dodged a bullet, tbh

Too many fucking people stick with incompatible people just because they feel the need to be with someone, or something like that.

She wants kids, he don't. Simple as.

Her making a whole article about it though does kind of feel like cope, but whatever you gotta do to move on I guess.
The hard part is not getting in... it's letting go.
 
Eh. I'd rather someone is direct about something if they think it's a dealbreaker so I don't blame her for the ultimatum. If one wants kids and the other doesn't that's honestly one of the most understandable deal-breakers there is. There is no reconciling that without leaving one person resentful.
Yeah, this is arguably THE most important factor in whether a long-term relationship will work out. It doesn’t matter if they are the perfect partner in every other respect - if you disagree on the issue of whether or not to have kids, you CANNOT be happy together.

Better to cut your losses and move on before you’ve sunk too much time into a doomed relationship.
 
bullshit. sticking with an unemployed manchild who is incapable of serious commitment would have been a retarded decision by her. what's the point in staying in a relationship when your partner straight up tells you that it has no future? she'd just be wasting her time.
He dodged 18 years of child support he likely couldn't afford and she's still writing articles about how she's single and desperately wants children. Tell me again how he didn't dodge a bullet and she's not seething.
 
She sounds like the kind of person which is a ungrateful piece of shit human being and don't having any emphaty for people which have basically bad luck in all their life (that doesn't support the non-existent actual self-esteem from part of the fucker).
Fuck you bitch, next time get AIDS and die slowly in a painful way. Same way with the other fuck.
A) Have sex incel.
B) lol calm down
c) "bad luck in all of life" is the kind of piss poor excuse people who only perceive an external locus of control have. Things don't just happen to people, they do things, and actions have reactions. Keep coping like this and the bad luck is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
ETA: This journo is retarded. Without much thought put into this: 6 months maximum to have changes agreed to and put in motion towards implementation. +6 months if you're engaged. +6 if married. Christ lady why burn 36 months on a fucktard? Of course he's going to lazily ride that status quo for as long as possible if your descriptions are accurate.
 
A) Have sex incel.
B) lol calm down
c) "bad luck in all of life" is the kind of piss poor excuse people who only perceive an external locus of control have. Things don't just happen to people, they do things, and actions have reactions. Keep coping like this and the bad luck is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
ETA: This journo is retarded. Without much thought put into this: 6 months maximum to have changes agreed to and put in motion towards implementation. +6 months if you're engaged. +6 if married. Christ lady why burn 36 months on a fucktard? Of course he's going to lazily ride that status quo for as long as possible if your descriptions are accurate.
Yeah, my bad actually. Tried to cope & seethe so hard to sharpening my English skills since here even the dislike button gives you positive reaction.
But my position still stands; fuck both of them. I don't like people which makes life diarys into articles and people who doesn't nothing to improve. Says a lot about society.
 
I like how when push comes to shove, the dude admits the answer is "no" instead of trying to conform to get some puss. Respect.

Good on girl for drawing a line, but I question the wisdom of relying on his answer. If he'd have said "yes" then what? Can you trust that "yes"? Even if he follows through, his heart sure won't be in it, and having a man who doesn't love the kids he's living with is a dangerous situation, the kids could be abused or used as pawns. A man who "suddenly realizes" he wants kids when there's a penalty for not complying can't be trusted to raise kids.

She should have left the moment she needed an ultimatum regardless of the answer. The only exception I can think of is if the answer is some sob story like "actually I wanted kids all along but my daddy spanked me and I'm afraid I'll fuck the kid up". Maybe you can work through that together, depending on the couple.
 
Dude did nothing wrong, I'd part ways with a chick dead set on semen demons as well since I do not have the capacity to care for kids. Lots of people don't, and nothing good ever comes from forcing people like that to have kids.
Naw dude did something wrong, in that he strung along the girl with "maybes" that were really "no" for three years just so he could get what he wanted out of the relationship.

If he'd been upfront from the beginning, and she stayed with him for a while hoping to change his mind THEN he would be completely innocent in the situation.
 
Naw dude did something wrong, in that he strung along the girl with "maybes" that were really "no" for three years just so he could get what he wanted out of the relationship.

If he'd been upfront from the beginning, and she stayed with him for a while hoping to change his mind THEN he would be completely innocent in the situation.
Yeah crotch goblins should be something everyone makes sure they're on the same page about early on in a relationship, what the fuck.
 
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