Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%

  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%
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UmQasaan said:
Really disappointed in Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan.

He has good videos mocking people in America, but this feel like straight western propaganda. Showing the “statistic” that 80% of Russians support Putin, interviewing people who unironically say Russia has the real nazi problem, and showing media outlets saying how Kremlin propaganda is literally EVERWHERE. (It’s not) Contributing to this disgusting gaslighting campaign makes me reminiscent of Iraq during the Bush presidency.

I would have liked it more if he tried to find some people who were ambivalent and had more nuanced points of view but he “interviewed” the mayor of Lviv who was sperging about “well Poutine is acshually le Hitler”. Nothing about Donbas for the past 8 years, not present the video of the Ukie doctor saying to castrate Russian POWs, and not revealing confirmed Ukraine war crimes by the OWN western media outlets.

There isn’t a single opposing view or bad thing said about Ukraine to show that this war is fucking shit for everyone. Instead it feels like manufactured propaganda piece to already confirm the biases within the NATO feedback loop.

This video makes me frustrated more than usual, because while it’s not a surprise that a western person will parrot the only narrative that’s being given to them, the intentional disconnect is also being perpetuated through “authentic and neutral” journalists with a surprising amount of influence on Zoomers. The worst part is that all of this goes unquestioned, and if you have a dissenting opinion you’re a bot. They arrogantly proclaim that they don’t fall for propaganda and their side in the absolute truth. What a fucking shame.
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Maybe they should have gotten CRP for some of his hot and nuanced takes. What "ambivalent and nuanced" points of view is he gonna find in the middle of the country that is being invaded? It's hilarious to me that people expect fair takes from people that are on the ground during a war.
 
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Madgneto Was Right said:
Maybe they should have gotten CRP for some of his hot and nuanced takes. What "ambivalent and nuanced" points of view is he gonna find in the middle of the country that is being invaded? It's hilarious to me that people expect fair takes from people that are on the ground during a war.
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There are quite a lot of different opinions in Ukraine about this war. The problem is that he just went to fucking Lviv. Even Kiev is pro-Russian compared to it.
 
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Staffy said:
No summary of what's happening.

Thread fuckin' blows.
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Nothings happening. Russia has lost their flag ship. Hundreds to thousands of soldiers in Maripol have surrendered to Russia. Russia is running out of gas, food, ammo, men, and equipment x2 about to be x3 times. Russia also has focused their troops on the eastern donbaus region and are/may be getting ready for another push on the northern side.

Putin is in charge but about to be Julius Ceasar'd by the other Russian oligarchs due to how bad the sanctions are. Ukraine is winning! But still needs money and equipment.

Fog of war is a bitch. We don't actually know what's going on. We have one side who are confirmed liars who have lied about everything that have the best propaganda machine in the world's history behind it vs the otherside which is practicing opsec and also has an incentive to lie and everyone hates and doesn't trust to tell the truth. Good luck!
 
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A_Callow_Youth said:
>Take a week off expecting nothing noteworthy to happen until the Donbass offensive kicks off
>One of Russia's highest-profile ships gets clobbered

In fairness, ships have been known to survive a hell of a lot of topside damage as long as the keel remains intact, see the US carrier fleet in the Pacific for reference. If they had to evac the crew, she's likely going to be out of the war for months at least, guess we'll have to wait for pics to see how bad it is.
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Is it possible they evacced the crew because they weren't certain if the fires were entirely out, and were concerned that it might ACTUALLY go up in a massive fireball? I.e; getting everyone off until they're sure its' safe?

I would imagine something like this is procedure, but on the other hand; The Russians aren't exactly known for their safety procedures.
 
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Nothings happening. Russia has lost their flag ship. Hundreds to thousands of soldiers in Maripol have surrendered to Russia. Russia is running out of gas, food, ammo, men, and equipment x2 about to be x3 times. Russia also has focused their troops on the eastern donbaus region and are/may be getting ready for another push on the northern side.

Putin is in charge but about to be Julius Ceasar'd by the other Russian oligarchs due to how bad the sanctions are. Ukraine is winning! But still needs money and equipment.

Fog of war is a bitch. We don't actually know what's going on. We have one side who are confirmed liars who have lied about everything that have the best propaganda machine in the world's history behind it vs the otherside which is practicing opsec and also has an incentive to lie and everyone hates and doesn't trust to tell the truth. Good luck!
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Yeah, I never bothered looking around since you can't even know what's the truth and what's not due to propaganda on both sides. Good to know everyone has the same sentiments, so this whole thing just blows I guess.
 
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White_N said:
There are quite a lot of different opinions in Ukraine about this war. The problem is that he just went to fucking Lviv.
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It could be that Lviv is a geographical phenomenon where all the homoglobo gather, or that a month of fighting has stirred up nationalistic feeling and the naysayers are understandably quiet about the matter.


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Even Kiev is pro-Russian compared to it.
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That is gonna be a big "X to doubt" for me. I don't doubt people have different opinions even in the most incomprehensible of situations. What I am saying is how laughable is to complain that the average Ukrainian civilian or politician interviewed is not gonna share their erudite explanation of the Ukraine's previous human rights abuses and the Russian position for keeping NATO as key to the conflict.
Maybe if he went to Donbas he could the other side of the story, or get blown up by a missile like those other journalist were a few weeks back. Definitely don't send him to Mariupol though, least he gets more bad takes from the beleaguered population.
 
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UmQasaan said:
Really disappointed in Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan.

He has good videos mocking people in America, but this feel like straight western propaganda. Showing the “statistic” that 80% of Russians support Putin, interviewing people who unironically say Russia has the real nazi problem, and showing media outlets saying how Kremlin propaganda is literally EVERWHERE. (It’s not) Contributing to this disgusting gaslighting campaign makes me reminiscent of Iraq during the Bush presidency.

I would have liked it more if he tried to find some people who were ambivalent and had more nuanced points of view but he “interviewed” the mayor of Lviv who was sperging about “well Poutine is acshually le Hitler”. Nothing about Donbas for the past 8 years, not present the video of the Ukie doctor saying to castrate Russian POWs, and not revealing confirmed Ukraine war crimes by the OWN western media outlets.

There isn’t a single opposing view or bad thing said about Ukraine to show that this war is fucking shit for everyone. Instead it feels like manufactured propaganda piece to already confirm the biases within the NATO feedback loop.

This video makes me frustrated more than usual, because while it’s not a surprise that a western person will parrot the only narrative that’s being given to them, the intentional disconnect is also being perpetuated through “authentic and neutral” journalists with a surprising amount of influence on Zoomers. The worst part is that all of this goes unquestioned, and if you have a dissenting opinion you’re a bot. They arrogantly proclaim that they don’t fall for propaganda and their side in the absolute truth. What a fucking shame.
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No shit, he's a chronic leftie who is unable to give fair representation to the party he is biased against.
You should know this if you are familiar with his work.
 
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1, Chechen Special forces in Rubizhne in Luhansk
2, DPR Soldiers in Mariupol
3, House fighting in Mariupol
4, RattenKrieg Mariupol
5, Azovs citadel at the Azovstahl plant
6, Tanks of the DPR shelling it.










 
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The Rossiyan language is getting cancelled.

At the moment the rockets began to slam into the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv in the early morning hours six weeks ago, Lidiia Kalashnykova was jolted from her sleep and made her decision: from then on, she would speak only Ukrainian.

“As strange as it may sound, it was that very instant, and all that stress served to make me reject the Russian language — completely,” Kalashnykova said.

Like most Ukrainians, Kalashnykova functions equally well in both languages. In her everyday life, though, and with her husband and two small children, ages 5 and 2, she largely spoke Russian. She was raised in a Russian-speaking family and estimated that 90 percent of her relatives speak Russian.

But when Moscow launched its invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, she said she “realized in a second” that she had “no right to use any language other than Ukrainian” and that “the Ukrainian language is actually my weapon.”

She says she’s okay with those Ukrainians who continue to speak Russian — like her mother. But Kalashnykova says she will speak to her only in Ukrainian.

“I want nothing to do with Russian,” she said.

It’s a sentiment shared by a growing number of Ukrainians. For many, the time has come to separate Ukraine linguistically, and psychologically, from its northern neighbor. The two languages are similar, like Portuguese and Spanish, and conversations often take place in which one person speaks Ukrainian and the other Russian.

But now, debates have erupted on social media on the need to wean the country off Russian, and posts have multiplied of those announcing their switch to speaking only Ukrainian.

The trend goes beyond language. It’s part of a larger rejection of “Russky Mir,” or “Russian World”: President Vladimir Putin’s concept of a shared Russian language and cultural space that he claims is under threat — and the defense of which he has used to justify his invasion.

For Ukrainians, the devastation that Moscow is inflicting on the country, and on the very people Putin claims to be saving, lays bare the lies that underpin the Kremlin’s invasion.

It’s a falsehood that President Volodymyr Zelensky — a native Russian speaker from southeastern Ukraine — seems to feel acutely.

Zelensky still uses the Russian language in part of his videos directed at Russians to convince them of the truth about Putin’s war. In a recent video address, Zelensky, speaking in Russian and visibly agitated, said the language is now associated with crimes, deportations, “explosions and killings” in places where Russian “has always been a part of everyday life.”

Moscow, he said, addressing those in Russia, was inadvertently doing everything to “ensure that de-Russification takes place” in Ukraine and that “our people stop speaking Russian themselves.”

“Because the Russian language will be associated with you. Only with you,” he said.

This has been especially stark in the eastern and southern parts of the country, regions with the deepest cultural, economic and family connections to Russia, and where the population predominantly speaks Russian.

It is also where the Kremlin is said to be employing a “scorched earth” military strategy.

Among the cities that have been leveled or hollowed out, and where possibly thousands have died, are Kharkiv, the country’s second-largest city and a center of Russian-language culture, and Mariupol, where close to 90 percent of the prewar population spoke Russian.

Language has been at the center of Ukraine’s efforts to build a distinct national identity, separate from Russia and far from the country’s Soviet past. Before the war there was a growing movement, especially among the young, to encourage the population to move away from speaking Russian.

The role of Russian language and culture in Ukraine’s future remains to be seen.

About half of Ukrainians speak Ukrainian at home, and 30 percent Russian, with the rest speaking both equally or other languages, like Hungarian. Ukraine’s east and south continue to be overwhelmingly Russian-speaking areas.

But, at the same time, the war has created a highly charged environment. In recent days, officials in the western Ukrainian cities of Ternopil, Uzhhorod and Mukachevo removed statues and busts of the 19th-century Russian poet Alexander Pushkin.

“Having seen all the atrocities of Russia, there is no more room for Russian and Soviet monuments in Ternopil,” Mayor Serhiy Nadal said on his Telegram channel on Saturday, showing a photo of the empty pedestal where a Pushkin statue had been.

“More people over the last month have felt themselves to be intensely Ukrainian,” said Sofia Dyak, director of the Center for Urban History, an independent research institute in Lviv.

Dyak said she hopes that the nation’s language politics do not become more toxic as a result of the war and that Russian speakers won’t be pressured, or threatened, to abandon their linguistic tradition.

“Russian language is a part of our heritage,” she said. “Russia does not have a monopoly on Russian language. It’s a matter of respecting individual choice.”

Ukrainians have flipped the meaning of “Russian World” to make it now a term of contempt — a catchall phrase for destruction and violence. In Russian and Ukrainian, they spit the words out with scorn in conversations, or videos panning across the ruins of their cities or houses.

“You should probably not feed the culture that wants to destroy,” said Oi Fusk, a Ukrainian musician originally from Donetsk in eastern Ukraine. “I think we need to nurture the culture of freedom and a culture of self-expression.”

Dmytro Kolesnichenko, a musician, said that just before the war, he completed a mini-album that he was getting ready to promote.

“Now I understand that as it has Russian lyrics, it’s inappropriate for me to release that,” he said. “I don’t want to be a part of that Russian world.”

There’s also a sense of betrayal. Artem Tamarkin, a graphic and animation designer originally from the northeastern city of Sumy, who has also switched to speaking Ukrainian, said he was shocked by the level of support for the war among Russians he previously respected.

“I have always separated politics and people,” Tamarkin said. But when hostilities began, many people he knew and public figures he liked spoke out in favor of the war or “simply kept silent and did not say anything at all.”

“I can't trust them,” he said.

Kalashnykova says the sound of Russian being spoken now enrages her.

“I don’t want to place myself even on the level of language with a criminal state,” she said.
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Some reposts from dvach.

Ukrainian female soldiers with their asses lit up:

Lotsa cursing, not much to translate.
Some Azov stan:
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St.Davis said:
I wouldn't even be surprised if NATO does teach this type of thing to militaries as a psychological tactic of sorts. Particularly to expendable shithole militaries like The Ukraine's.
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Any militia trained by glowies ends up doing similar atrocities and psyops. I have no doubts in my mind about it.
 
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1, Chechen Special forces in Rubizhne in Luhansk
2, DPR Soldiers in Mariupol
3, House fighting in Mariupol
4, RattenKrieg Mariupol
5, Azovs citadel at the Azovstahl plant
6, Tanks of the DPR shelling it.

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I kept being told that Azovstal wasn't actually an Azov stronghold for some reason (This was back when there was the fake news about it falling last month). Is the place actually a fortress or what?

kuuu said:
Some reposts from dvach.

Ukrainian female soldiers with their asses lit up:
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Lotsa cursing, not much to translate.
Some Azov stan:
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>Female soldiers

Will the Ukies ever stop being retarded?
 
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