Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Dildos also don't try to force open a space in the pelvic cavity that was never meant to exist in the first place. The thing about the vagina is that it's not just ever tightening scar tissue over muscles pulling the wrong way. I actually don't even have a good understanding of what happens to the muscles in the region when SRS happens, but I can't imagine they don't get quite damaged, so it must be torture forcing that tissue apart along a fault line produced by surgery.

E; Just saw you mentioned the crotch wound aspect, so my bad, but I'll still leave this up. But yeah, push directly into muscle tissue with a hard piece of plastic. That is what trans women are commiting to doing every day for several hours.
There is a reason lots of troons stop dilating and let the Amhole grew shut.
They realized that yeeting their cocks off isn't & having to dilate for the rest of their dickless lifes isn't the coom paradise they thought it would be.
 
She's going to get more counselling to undo her "transition" than she ever was given to do it in the first place.
I can't even get into this without getting MOTI and my blood pressure rising.
I admire detransitioners who try to accept their body as they are and if they get any surgery, it is solely for practical function (real function like reconfiguring amhole to nullo for hygiene, not some psychological bs) and accept that they made the decision in they first place and never go "nawt muh fawlt!" ... in fact I've known these types but since people who can accept themselves don't like spotlight... We're not seeing them on social media much.

Of course, doctors, TRA, pharma lobbyists are also at fault and they should be called out. But having surgery-addict munchies with no accountability on twitter is a double edged sword. One one hand it made this plight known in public, on other... I don't think only "more reasonable voices" will follow as you mention... They'll be inviting even more narc and grifters who will be operating on the same level as TRA.

Eventually detrooning will become another stage for grifting and getting free gibs like how TRA currently is. And I'm seeing that it is shifting from mostly sane detrans in the last few years ago... Into these people who are basically insane trans activists in a new clothing.
Many detransitioners who realize they did something dumb (because of abuse or mental illness or idiocy or whatever) and back out of it are practically invisible, because they want nothing to do with gender anything anymore and want to move on.

I've noticed there's a stage where people want to speak out, because it's like they left a cult, and they also feel guilty about supporting the cult. That seems a natural part of the process imo. But to continue the metaphor: if someone leaves a cult, speaks against it...and is still going on about it months or years later, they may as well still be in it.

I have some experience with people who didn't go as far as Stumpy, but bought into the ideology, some had hormones, at least one removed her breasts. After detransitioning, many tend to have shame and embarrassment and don't want it to define them. So when people publicly and frequently talk about detransition I'd guess that out of 100, maybe? One? of them is somewhat sane and not simply sliding into the next stage of NPD supply/BPD identity/idpol grifting/etc.

So yeah. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone trying to get by on this gay-ass earth, including young people caught up in this stuff. But beware the public detransitioner who won't shut up about it after a month or two. Notice if they've actually changed anything about themselves other than their haircut.
 
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I'd rather have somebody realize their mistakes due to their mental health issues and work on fixing them than die, despite how costly those mistakes may be. It's a tough road to approach and many avoid it solely because of the mental burden of realizing that it was self inflicted.
They're still probably going to kill themselves. Before they were chasing an idealized creation of them as the opposite gender, now they're chasing an idealized version of their past self. The scar tissue is permanent. The removed organs are permanent. The neurological damage is permanent.

The additional surgery will likely only fuck up their scar tissue and give more nerve damage.

There's a reason a number of us in the thread say that surgery is the final nail in the coffin.
 
They're still probably going to kill themselves. Before they were chasing an idealized creation of them as the opposite gender, now they're chasing an idealized version of their past self. The scar tissue is permanent. The removed organs are permanent. The neurological damage is permanent.

The additional surgery will likely only fuck up their scar tissue and give more nerve damage.

There's a reason a number of us in the thread say that surgery is the final nail in the coffin.
Hate to say it but Stumpy...the outlook is grim. It's good she stopped living a lie 24/7 but I'm not 🌈 enough to think someone who is willing to go that far has what it takes to get mentally well. The work, strength, pain, sacrifice, and will it would take to do it (and not the kind you can fake for a YouTube narrative, but actual character) would be enormous. Few are made of that stuff to begin with, and when they are, they don't do...this to themselves in the first place.
 
Hate to say it but Stumpy...the outlook is grim. It's good she stopped living a lie 24/7 but I'm not 🌈 enough to think someone who is willing to go that far has what it takes to get mentally well. The work, strength, pain, sacrifice, and will it would take to do it (and not the kind you can fake for a YouTube narrative, but actual character) would be enormous. Few are made of that stuff to begin with, and when they are, they don't do...this to themselves in the first place.
The amount of expensive healthcare wasted on these absolutely useless people who will likely never contribute to society in any way (but love gobbling up resources many normal taxpayers don't have access to) boils my blood as well. Stumpy is never going to recover, because there really isn't anything to recover from. She's a classic BPD void of a person. No internal substance, just skin-deep superficial consoomer label crap. I wouldn't be surprised if she "retransitions" sometime in the near future, perhaps when insurance rejects covering her 2nd "gender-affirming" procedures. She's a waste of a person.
 

Well well, honestly this is both surprising and not surprising at all to me. Given how deranged and delusional she was, not to mention how far gone with all the surgeries I would never have predicted this. On the other hand she wasn't fooling anyone with her masculine credentials, the moment this 5.1ft, pube bearded fuck decided to record herself trying to find a "heartbeat" in her "little guy" I knew she had the sort of personality that would result in no actual dick-haver wanting anything to do with her.

I don't think there is much I can add to this others haven't already clocked, same obsessive, self-destructive behaviour towards her body just with different goals. I doubt her life will improve much if at all, and I don't much care. She made her hospital bed, she can lie in it, enjoy the decades of chronic pain and probable opiate addiction. All that money and effort wasted, maybe she can hold a little funeral in her garden for the frankencock after it's been removed, like little girls for their pet rabbit, I wouldn't put it past her.

Might be interesting to keep an eye on her to see if there are any U-turns but honestly the reaction of other trannies towards detransitioners is almost always more interesting and entertaining than the detrans themseleves.

You did your best Dr. K

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the moment this 5.1ft, pube bearded fuck

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Actually, she claimed she was "five-foot-nothing", which means she's probably actually under 5 feet tall. Not even pygmy men are, on average, that short. For a white woman that is in itself highly unusual. She's a fetid pool of dysgenic traits.
 
Some woman from Ovarit took the information from here for a big post on Stumpdick, but then felt the need to make a stupid comment.
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Lady, she is nicknamed stumpdick because her fleshtube looks like a stump and she was ridiculous and delusional. Why are you referring people here if kiwis are so cruel? You freely admit you use the Farms for info to repost but you gotta still virtue signal you're not one of THOSE people? Bitch, please.

Excuse me for going off topic, it pisses me off because the kiwis in this thread are doing god's work documenting and archiving these medical disasters when almost no one else is.
 
She's going to get more counselling to undo her "transition" than she ever was given to do it in the first place.
I can't even get into this without getting MOTI and my blood pressure rising.

Many detransitioners who realize they did something dumb (because of abuse or mental illness or idiocy or whatever) and back out of it are practically invisible, because they want nothing to do with gender anything anymore and want to move on.

I've noticed there's a stage where people want to speak out, because it's like they left a cult, and they also feel guilty about supporting the cult. That seems a natural part of the process imo. But to continue the metaphor: if someone leaves a cult, speaks against it...and is still going on about it months or years later, they may as well still be in it.

I have some experience with people who didn't go as far as Stumpy, but bought into the ideology, some had hormones, at least one removed her breasts. After detransitioning, many tend to have shame and embarrassment and don't want it to define them. So when people publicly and frequently talk about detransition I'd guess that out of 100, maybe? One? of them is somewhat sane and not simply sliding into the next stage of NPD supply/BPD identity/idpol grifting/etc.

So yeah. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone trying to get by on this gay-ass earth, including young people caught up in this stuff. But beware the public detransitioner who won't shut up about it after a month or two. Notice if they've actually changed anything about themselves other than their haircut.

The problem with this idea is that Detrans side needs to have persistent voices. Movements that are capable of implementing change against insurmountable odds need to have figureheads that are identifiable because it makes people more aware when they see and come to care about a specific person(s) otherwise you end up messy, disjointed, and making no change. If you have people who detrans and then disappear into the void after going through the motions, which a lot of them do, then you never actually get an idea of the scope of how many people are being hurt by this- especially if you're someone whose not aware of the darker side to begin with or a visitor of the farms. It makes it that much easier for the troons to continue to push the narrative that it's super rare! and people aren't really destroying their lives, bodies, mental health (more than it was), etc. These are voices that actually do need to be uplifted and centered as the left loves to say because they're speaking up about something that will not change until the outcry is too loud to ignore and that won't be possible if everyone whose dissented has faded into the background.
 
5 weeks post-op PIV with Dr. Ramineni.

Good god @batteredpancakes learn to use thumbnails. You've done stellar work in this thread and I love you to bits for it, but every time a laptop user clicks your spoilers a full-sized, larger than life neovag jumps right in their face.

No-one deserves to be slapped in the face with a giant wet neovag, @batteredpancakes do they now? DO THEY?
Some woman from Ovarit took the information from here for a big post on Stumpdick, but then felt the need to make a stupid comment.
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Lady, she is nicknamed stumpdick because her fleshtube looks like a stump and she was ridiculous and delusional. Why are you referring people here if kiwis are so cruel? You freely admit you use the Farms for info to repost but you gotta still virtue signal you're not one of THOSE people? Bitch, please.

Excuse me for going off topic, it pisses me off because the kiwis in this thread are doing god's work documenting and archiving these medical disasters when almost no one else is.

Yeah I gotta laugh at the TERFs who managed to reject the party line on the trannies despite heavy social pressure to conform to it, and yet still cling to the rest of the conventions on politeness and speech. Didn't you learn that it's ALL bullshit? The 'oh I reject the TWAW dogma but I would never be mean to a trans person!' TERFs are fine if they are in the public eye. But if you're going to reclaim your honest thoughts on some anonymous platform like Ovarit, you might as well reclaim them all. There are no tru and honest transes, there are no good transes, you do not have an obligation to spare their feelings.

Case in point, elephantdick, who discovered herself being made fun of on here and actually doubled down on her public postings to make the point that her mutilation "was all worth it!"

Right. You are willing to encourage women into irreparable harm to own the Chuds on Kiwifarms. And WE'RE the immoral ones. :stress:
 
Fuck off with that "Ur sooo cruel" horseshit. So Kiwifarm's mean words are cruel but the genital butchers aren't?? This insane woman deserves to be mocked for her dumb decisions. Kiwifarms isn't responsible for her wellbeing. She decided to multilate herself & post it on the internet. That means other people react to it & not everyone is going to kiss her ass. Most people won't.

She is fucking retarded, her flesh tube is nasty as hell and if you don't like mean words then start documenting srs disasters yourself and kiss troon ass as much as you want.
 
The problem with this idea is that Detrans side needs to have persistent voices. Movements that are capable of implementing change against insurmountable odds need to have figureheads that are identifiable because it makes people more aware when they see and come to care about a specific person(s) otherwise you end up messy, disjointed, and making no change. If you have people who detrans and then disappear into the void after going through the motions, which a lot of them do, then you never actually get an idea of the scope of how many people are being hurt by this- especially if you're someone whose not aware of the darker side to begin with or a visitor of the farms. It makes it that much easier for the troons to continue to push the narrative that it's super rare! and people aren't really destroying their lives, bodies, mental health (more than it was), etc. These are voices that actually do need to be uplifted and centered as the left loves to say because they're speaking up about something that will not change until the outcry is too loud to ignore and that won't be possible if everyone whose dissented has faded into the background.
You're right, of course, but that is not how shit is working out at present. Even the saner ones who do try to speak out aren't going to be "elevated" or "amplified" (🤮) because everybody has their own retarded agenda. I've seen "terf" (or whatever) types absolutely drag detrans types who don't conform precisely to their politics. The LAST thing someone escaping gender ideology needs is a NEW batch of narcissistic harpies instructing them on how to speak and think. You're already sticking your neck out and putting your face/name next to something that will make people think you're an unstable weirdo, and for what? To be surrounded by those kind of ungrateful assholes? It gets to where it just isn't worth it.

Imo unless and until detransitioner has a particular charisma and talent for public speaking, the best thing to do is to move on and heal and leave that shit behind, find normal healthy friends, and then educate THEM irl. You know, nice people who think "they just wanna use the bathroom!" and "it's life-saving surgery!" People who would never guess you lived that way. That's going to have more impact than having slap fights with people like Exulansic on Twitter or whatever. But maybe I'm just old and burned out on all the yelling.
 
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The problem with this idea is that Detrans side needs to have persistent voices.
It's going to be tough, very tough, because no sane detransitioner would stay connected to the movement, even if only to criticize it. Because I can't word right now I'll just say I think the way it would pressure cook an individual's healing process would be like saying more CSA survivors should publicly advocate against child abuse, and that the overlap between those strong enough to survive their trauma and be the right sort of personality to advocate successfully must be incredibly small.

Funnily enough the only public detransitioners I can remember are all elderly men, the only woman I can think of is Buck Angel and she hasn't stopped identifying as a man. The old men are still not, by any definition, 'famous' for it either.
 
Good god @batteredpancakes learn to use thumbnails. You've done stellar work in this thread and I love you to bits for it, but every time a laptop user clicks your spoilers a full-sized, larger than life neovag jumps right in their face.

No-one deserves to be slapped in the face with a giant wet neovag, @batteredpancakes do they now? DO THEY?
Haha sorry! I'll remember to scale them down in the future. 😜

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Anyway, ElephantDick hasn't posted anymore pics so far but she has been making some interesting comments.
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I wonder if she had the regret feeling for her phalloplasty as well? Interesting to see there's a small sliver of sanity deep in her brain.
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I still can't quite figure out if she came back to read here but a few of you did call her thing a tentacle so maybe she has.
 
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