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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Oh no, some random dude on a tv channel saying something dumb vs the entire western media hiding ukranian nazis.

Interesting videos of kids being groomed to be little nazis crying for the the death of russians, long before the war.

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"Some random dude on a tv channel"? Dude, that's one of Kremlin's main propaganda mouth. What they're doing and saying there are what the Kremlin wanted the Russians to hear and believe
 
If we want the Ukraine to have a peer battle with the Russians we should see if there's any Knox class frigates kicking around in the reserve fleet, get those running, let 'em have 'em.
Have to ask Taiwan for them as the last remaining eight of them have been sold/given to Taiwan decades ago. Slightly better luck asking for the last remaining Oliver Perry class frigates iirc are still in the U.S.
 
Oh no, some random dude on a tv channel saying something dumb vs the entire western media hiding ukranian nazis.

Interesting videos of kids being groomed to be little nazis crying for the the death of russians, long before the war.

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Yeah some random dude on russian state tv, you know, one where nothing is said unless approved by some censor.

Do I need to post Putin's Little Army? Junarmy or whatever they cal themselves? Essentially Hitlerjugend but russian and set around Putin's cult of personality?

It's not the Ukrainians running around russian cities raping, murdering and pillaging and don't tell me "If wussia didn't act they would" because they wouldn't make it a mile into russian borders unless you agree that russian army is the most worthless and pathethic one on this planet.

Why should Ukrainians love russians? Why do russians expect everyone from their old satellite "People's Republics" to worship them? Life was fucking dogshit under their rule and nobody wants a repeat of that, especially since russians show very well that if anything, they regressed as people instead of moving forward.
 
The Vatnik cries out in pain as it strikes you.

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Watch out Ukraine, Russia is gonna double-dog invade you!

Uh... those are extremely limited in capability and cannot project power in any way. Plus with the Black Sea's weather conditions they'd be heavily restricted to green water operations near the coast
Which is exactly what Ukraine needs.

A nation like the US needs power projection.
A nation like Ukraine needs something to blow Russia's attempt at power projection out of the water.
A nation like the US needs a blue-water navy because its has 2 major oceans between it and 2/3rds of the world.
A nation like Ukraine needs a green-water navy, because almost all operations would be occurring in the near-coastal waters of the northern Black Sea.
 
A few nazis? Faggot please, the entire euromaidan "revolution" in 2014 was carried out by those cucks and they are in all branches of the ukranian government, not only asov.
Except said revolution was jump-started by Ukrainians not wanting to be a Russian puppet state anymore. They were tired of the kleptocracy and bullshit. Also, can you Russiaboos get your story straight? First, it was the CIA, now it was Azov, for fuck's sake, at least make your excuses consistent.

I have yet to see one single picture or video of a russian soldier killing people in butcha and a single picture or video of russians using a tochka-u in Ukraine. And save your time and don't link me one of those blurry satellite images where you can't see uniforms and can't see markings on vehicles.
So what? You need a cameraman walking around looking at Russians killing Ukrainians up-close?

You know who i trust more? Actual civilians talking about azov killing ukranians in mariupol
You mean, some random idiots who are about as trustworthy as Russia Times?

There's also tons of civilian testimony on camera talking about Russian war crimes. I suppose those can't be trusted too, huh?
 
A few nazis? Faggot please, the entire euromaidan "revolution" in 2014 was carried out by those cucks and they are in all branches of the ukranian government, not only asov.

I have yet to see one single picture or video of a russian soldier killing people in butcha and a single picture or video of russians using a tochka-u in Ukraine. And save your time and don't link me one of those blurry satellite images where you can't see uniforms and can't see markings on vehicles.

You know who i trust more? Actual civilians talking about azov killing ukranians in mariupol



So they’re nazis that run everything….and are subordinate to a Jewish president
 
Russians drove a column of bulldozers to Katyn (place where NKVD murdered 20'000 Polish POWs and then blamed it on Nazis) and posed with raised buckets delivering this message:



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nice to see them not wanting to talk about first wave of liberations and massacres, the second wave of "liberation" (khe khe Warsaw uprising) and then occupation + persecution of truth
Liberating Poland. Damn, is that adorable.

"Liberating." As if every Pole isn't already sick to death of Russian bullshit.
 
You know who i trust more? Actual civilians talking about azov killing ukranians in mariupol
Oh yes, of course, trust people who talk into the camera when there's a good chance some russian soldat fuckhead is aiming at their head from behind the camera, russians can't say shit that disagrees with the narrative inside their own country withojt being arrested and I'm supposed to trust anything coming out of russia as real and not "forced confession" style bullshit? Fuck off.
 
Yeah some random dude on russian state tv, you know, one where nothing is said unless approved by some censor.

Do I need to post Putin's Little Army? Junarmy or whatever they cal themselves? Essentially Hitlerjugend but russian and set around Putin's cult of personality?

It's not the Ukrainians running around russian cities raping, murdering and pillaging and don't tell me "If wussia didn't act they would" because they wouldn't make it a mile into russian borders unless you agree that russian army is the most worthless and pathethic one on this planet.

Why should Ukrainians love russians? Why do russians expect everyone from their old satellite "People's Republics" to worship them? Life was fucking dogshit under their rule and nobody wants a repeat of that, especially since russians show very well that if anything, they regressed as people instead of moving forward.

You mean like Zelensky who banned three pro-russian tv stations in 2021, before the war, and now nationalized and combined all existing tv stations so only his propaganda can be spread? Stunning and brave! Totally the most non-corrupt leader in the world, please don't question how some actor unknown on the world stage and then politician made a fortune of 1.5 Billion.

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And again, please show me at least one picture or video of russians doing what you claim they do. Its 2022, not 1980. There must be at least one picture or video shot on a smart phone of russians treating civilians bad, no? After all, theres even footage of azov nazis holding civilians hostage


Except said revolution was jump-started by Ukrainians not wanting to be a Russian puppet state anymore. They were tired of the kleptocracy and bullshit. Also, can you Russiaboos get your story straight? First, it was the CIA, now it was Azov, for fuck's sake, at least make your excuses consistent.
The regime change was funded by the west and carried out by those nazi cucks, you might want to look up the black and red flag they waved and its background

So what? You need a cameraman walking around looking at Russians killing Ukrainians up-close?

Its 2022, not 1980. Everyone has a smartphone

You mean, some random idiots who are about as trustworthy as Russia Times?

There's also tons of civilian testimony on camera talking about Russian war crimes. I suppose those can't be trusted too, huh?

Ah yes, lets not trust civilians that say the opposite of what i want to hear and only trust whats coming from the ukranian government, because nazis are such nice people and incapable of doing something as bad as killing their own people, like they have been doing since 2014 in eastern ukraine.
 
like they have been doing since 2014 in eastern ukraine.
More kids have been killed by the Russian forces in the last two months than during the last 8 years by Ukrainian forces.

If we are to use lex talionis for what Russians have inflicted on Ukraine, then we have a moral right to exterminate the Russians wholesale.

It's only fair, they've been trying to do so for centuries.
 
You mean like Zelensky who banned three pro-russian tv stations in 2021, before the war, and now nationalized and combined all existing tv stations so only his propaganda can be spread? Stunning and brave! Totally the most non-corrupt leader in the world, please don't question how some actor unknown on the world stage and then politician made a fortune of 1.5 Billion.
Yes. Zelensky. THE JEWISH PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE.

Tell me, why are Nazis dying for a Jewish president now? If the Azov Battalion were Nazis, they would have blown his brains out by now and killed everyone he knows and loves. Instead, they work for this Jewish president, they let Jews into their army, and their hatred is reserved mostly for invaders against their land.

Doesn't sound very Nazi to me. At most, they seem to be just a bunch of larpers with Nazi regalia, which isn't automatically a crime, unless you want to throw re-enactors and guys who dress up like Space Nazis from multiple fandoms into prison.

And again, please show me at least one picture or video of russians doing what you claim they do. Its 2022, not 1980. There must be at least one picture or video shot on a smart phone of russians treating civilians bad, no? After all, theres even footage of azov nazis holding civilians hostage

Footage that could easily have been faked. Meanwhile, there's no shortage of Ukrainians crying about the Russians doing bad shit to them:


The regime change was funded by the west and carried out by those nazi cucks, you might want to look up the black and red flag they waved and its background
And? Again, the majority of the Ukrainian people supported them, then they voted in some Jew as president. That's the last thing a Nazi party would do.

Its 2022, not 1980. Everyone has a smartphone
Yes, and all we've seen is Russia getting wiped out by Ukrainian farmers and militia with those smartphones.

Ah yes, lets not trust civilians that say the opposite of what i want to hear and only trust whats coming from the ukranian government, because nazis are such nice people and incapable of doing something as bad as killing their own people, like they have been doing since 2014 in eastern ukraine.
Oh, but there are also civilians speaking of the Russians' crimes, too:



So I suppose, if civilians say such things, it's true, then?
 
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You mean like Zelensky who banned three pro-russian tv stations in 2021, before the war, and now nationalized and combined all existing tv stations so only his propaganda can be spread? Stunning and brave! Totally the most non-corrupt leader in the world, please don't question how some actor unknown on the world stage and then politician made a fortune of 1.5 Billion.

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And again, please show me at least one picture or video of russians doing what you claim they do. Its 2022, not 1980. There must be at least one picture or video shot on a smart phone of russians treating civilians bad, no? After all, theres even footage of azov nazis holding civilians hostage



The regime change was funded by the west and carried out by those nazi cucks, you might want to look up the black and red flag they waved and its background



Its 2022, not 1980. Everyone has a smartphone



Ah yes, lets not trust civilians that say the opposite of what i want to hear and only trust whats coming from the ukranian government, because nazis are such nice people and incapable of doing something as bad as killing their own people, like they have been doing since 2014 in eastern ukraine.
West so bad almost if not over 4 million Ukrainians fled to the west while russians need to forcefully evacuate people to some remote fuckhole in bumfuck end of russia.

Go drown in your outhouse.
 
skip of Moscow is officially dead,

gloriously died against overwhelming odds, blowing himself up with words "for the motherland, for putin!" killing gorrilion of nazis, while trying to extinguish cigarette bud ... just kidding


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Cruiser Moscow - 750'000'000 $ (by Forbe's estimates) would equate to 150 kindergartens (yeah, it's a problem) 50 schools or 12 hospitals

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Hmmm looking at the prices you may have got it backwards. As the Legend class is about 650 to 750 million per ship compared to roughly 360 million for one Independence or Freedom class LCS.
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You know, pretty sure you could thwack the price down a ton if you ditched those in favor of European alternatives Also, the LCS is the same size, but has a mere 21 days of endurance... and we're on day what of this special military operation, with the possibility of another one should Ukraine not completely wreck Russia's shit so hard they never, ever try again? The LCS is a littoral combat ship in the sense that only the USA would build a 418 foot one. Its also built entirely out of aluminum, and that stuff has a 50/50 chance of either catching fire itself or melting when subjected to heat... like say, a fire caused by battle damage. It also lacks any sort of C3 capabilities or even accommodations for such, being an overgrown corvette with a crew of 75, including mission specialists.

In short, its a lovely show of force if you're the USA, worthless if you're thinking about using it for combat as opposed to intimidating drug dealers and Somali pirates... oh wait, it can only do those jobs for less than a month before it runs out of food, so good luck there. I mean, who knew a design based off a passenger ferry that doesn't even have cabins due to how short the trip is would be terrible for actual naval duties? There's a reason the USA is going, "Right, fuck this shit, we're buying an actual frigate this time."

And again, keep in mind that in times of armed conflict you need ships patrolling just in case, and after every deployment there's a standdown for rest and maintenance, and so you need something that can actually you know, patrol for an extended period of time, especially with large wartime crews.
If we want the Ukraine to have a peer battle with the Russians we should see if there's any Knox class frigates kicking around in the reserve fleet, get those running, let 'em have 'em.
We talking the upgraded ones with Harpoons, or as-built? The Spanish have a few Baleares in reserve. I think those five could deal with what's left of the Black Sea Fleet thanks to their Harpoons.
Which is exactly what Ukraine needs.

A nation like the US needs power projection.
A nation like Ukraine needs something to blow Russia's attempt at power projection out of the water.
A nation like the US needs a blue-water navy because its has 2 major oceans between it and 2/3rds of the world.
A nation like Ukraine needs a green-water navy, because almost all operations would be occurring in the near-coastal waters of the northern Black Sea.
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Right, and if those speedy missile boats get too close to Sochi or Novorossiysk they're completely dead, not to mention Sevastopol is de facto Russian territory, and looks to be so for the foreseeable future. You can see the issue with purely coastal ships as opposed to anything that can actually sail into the center or to the far shore.
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The Black Sea is about as big as the Eastern Mediterranean, so Ukraine would need something that can do the rough equivalent of traveling from Western Greece and avoiding the area around Crete to intercept ships from Syria. So you see the issue there with just speedy boats. You really need a small, semi-oceanic frigate, and that means a bit longer legs than the LCS unless you want to just chuck missiles and run away.
 
skip of Moscow is officially dead,

gloriously died against overwhelming odds, blowing himself up with words "for the motherland, for putin!" killing gorrilion of nazis, while trying to extinguish cigarette bud ... just kidding


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Cruiser Moscow - 750'000'000 $ (by Forbe's estimates) would equate to 150 kindergartens (yeah, it's a problem) 50 schools or 12 hospitals

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Somewhere, a Russian farmer once again starving to death will be like “Meh. As long as I got vodka, who cares? Take my pet rock for your next gay battleship made out of ton or whatever.”
 
Pick a conspiracy and stick with it
Ah yes, muh conspiracy theory except that its well documented, retards like you just have a short term memory or are hypocrites


More kids have been killed by the Russian forces in the last two months than during the last 8 years by Ukrainian forces.

If we are to use lex talionis for what Russians have inflicted on Ukraine, then we have a moral right to exterminate the Russians wholesale.

It's only fair, they've been trying to do so for centuries.

Look up alley of angels,.


Yes. Zelensky. THE JEW.

Tell me, why are Nazis dying for a Jewish president now? If the Azov Battalion were Nazis, they would have blown his brains out by now and killed everyone he knows and loves. Instead, they work for this Jewish president, they let Jews into their army, and their hatred is reserved mostly for invaders against their land.

Doesn't sound very Nazi to me. At most, they seem to be just a bunch of larpers with Nazi regalia, which isn't automatically a crime, unless you want to throw re-enactors and guys who dress up like Space Nazis from multiple fandoms into prison.
You know the nazis existed in ukraine before Zelensky was even President? One of the leaders of those nazis, Andriy Biletsky, was honored by the previous president.

Footage that could easily have been faked. Meanwhile, there's no shortage of Ukrainians crying about the Russians doing bad shit to them:



Oh, but there are also civilians speaking of the Russians' crimes, too:



So I suppose, if civilians say such things, it's true, then?

Independent Journalist traveling the warzones of ukraine interviewing civilians since 2014, funded by patreon and youtube viewers = must be fake
mainstream media that blurs out nazi symbols on uniforms and lies on the daily= omg so trustworthy

And? Again, the majority of the Ukrainian people supported them, then they voted in some Jew as president. That's the last thing a Nazi party would do.
Look up national corps and ask yourself why a "jewish president" would allow a self proclaimed nazi party in ukraine but ban pro-russia politicial partys

Yes, and all we've seen is Russia getting wiped out by Ukrainian farmers and militia with those smartphones.
Like this? Oh wait, those are ukranians too dumb to spot a russian tank rolling straight at them
 
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