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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Honestly, I'm confused on this. The negotiations in Turkey initially had articles reporting that Ukraine I think agreed to concede Crimea and agree not to join NATO but then within that same week there was the 60 minute interview where Zelensky said they will relinquish nothing and fight Russia to the end. In that same interview, referencing Putin's requirements for a 1-on-1 meeting between Zelensky and Putin, Zelensky said he's just waiting for Putin's invitation even though Putin said it was to be determined after the other stuff was hashed out.
Weren't there some talks in Belarus at some point, too, or am I misremembering?
 
According to the liveUAmap the Ukies have begun counter offensives against the northern half of the Luhansk Oblast, View attachment 3190710

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Ukrainian army counter-attack between Kreminna, Rubizhne and Sviatohirsk, Russian troops were pushed several kilometres to North-East​


Red Tank in same area:

Battle ongoing for Lozove village on the border between Donetsk and Kharkiv regions​


White flags and ak comment above:

Ukrainian military in counter-offensive in Kharkiv region. Liberated Bazalievka, Lebyazhe, partially Kutuzivka​


Lots of the bombs to the very top show the Russians continuine to just randomly shell towns and near cities with lots of reports of wounded and dead, both military and civillians.
At least they can't redeploy to the south now. All part of Russia's plan..
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Not tactical nukes.
Okay see you had me on the same page with "Russia using nukes is just speculative fanfic", except now your losing me with "Putin is ready to usher in nuclear armageddon with strategic nukes, but not increased escalation from the west with tactical nukes"
 
Honestly, I'm confused on this. The negotiations in Turkey initially had articles reporting that Ukraine I think agreed to concede Crimea and agree not to join NATO but then within that same week there was the 60 minute interview where Zelensky said they will relinquish nothing and fight Russia to the end. In that same interview, referencing Putin's requirements for a 1-on-1 meeting between Zelensky and Putin, Zelensky said he's just waiting for Putin's invitation even though Putin said it was to be determined after the other stuff was hashed out.

there were no concession to Crimea remaining in Russia's hands, merely 15 year agreement to work things out politically and any land consessions meant that it had to be approved by a nationwide referendum, i.e. not approved.

In the most recent interview Zelensky mentioned that if Mariupol falls then it will be end to negotiations. Reportedly there are still civilians there, I have no idea how, but they are pretty much the considered hostages. If they don't exist, the will to negotiate changes a whole lot.




This is the other "kid" MIA on Moscow. The parents are bitching that he is a conscript and was in combat, but they knew his assignment on Moscow and said absolutely nothing ... until Moscow was sunk. Comrade Putin said himself "no conscripts in combat"

The whole MIA at sea is very sus, unless there was a shitshow with liferafts you should be able to reasonably account for people. MIA only if they don't know where all liferafts are and they had a bunch of dudes jump overboard and there is a slight possibility that he is washed out to Odessa shores. Also, no body, no compensation pay for you.

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These infos are probably already posted but it might be worth to repete and recapitulate.

The plot behind Ukraine is far deeper than anyone is willing to talk about publically. Yanukovich was corrupt and his sons were acting like a protection racket. Yanukovich was keen on joining the EU but the treaty had a clause in there that would have put Ukraine in NATO through the backdoor. Ukraine would have to comply will all the rules and regulations of NATO without formally being admitted. Worse still, Ukraine was to trade exclusively with the EU when Russia was its main trading partner and its fuel came from Russia. This was the first attempt by the West to bring Ukraine into NATO.

That is why Yanukovich backed out and that is what began the whole uprising. To appease the protestors, Yanukovich agreed to early elections in nine months. This is where the US Neocons were hard at work to actually see the uprising as an opportunity and they wanted to install their own people. That was all in the leaked phone call of Victoria Nuland.

Zelensky was elected with overwhelming support to create peace which was exactly OPPOSITE of the objectives of the American Neocons. The Ukrainian Nationalists (Nazis) threatened to kill Zelensky if he pushed for peace with Russia. Zelensky did a political flip-flop and yielded to the Nazi movement. Reliable sources insisted that the Nazis threatened to kill Zelensky to prevent any peace with Russia.

Don’t forget McCain and Lesley Graham even addressed the Ukrainian Nazis promising them to support back in December 2016 after Trump was elected, but before he was sworn in. The Neocons were hard at work to ensure that there would be no peace with Russia.

The entire Russiagate has been discredited but we must understand the reality of international relations. Hillary, who is a Neocon and was friends with John McCain to the point he is the one who handed the fraudulent Steel Dossier to James Comey at the FBI, was instrumental in the failed takeover of Russia by the bankers blackmailing Yeltsin and interfering in the 2000 election which brought Putin to power. Hillary clearly concocted the whole theory that Trump was a puppet of Putin. The Neocons even spun the story that Putin was ex-KGB and that meant he wanted to resurrect the old Soviet Union which was also a lie.

With the seriousness of these actions, we are now heading into war over fake news. Obama had refused to provide military aid to Ukraine and the entire Russiagate was to box in Trump who was then advised to provide military weapons to Ukraine to prove he was not a puppet of Putin. It was the Neocons who were trying to push Trump into an eye-to-eye confrontation.

What Kennedy did to the Neocons was reject their advice and in the Cuban Missle Crisis, this resulted in a monumental shift in US-Russian relations. It forced both parties to realize that they needed each other and that confrontation was not the answer. The Neocons disagreed. This probably cost Kennedy his life. I believe the Neocons had him killed and Oswald was hinted that he was somehow connected to Russia. The CIA refused to release the files and the only reason is to hide the fact that the Neocons took out Kennedy.

And there's a interesting video of Zelensky who could be possibly drunk or drugged who was saved before he deleted it.

And sadly lots of sheeps still believe then Zelensky is 100% a good guy...
 
Okay see you had me on the same page with "Russia using nukes is just speculative fanfic", except now your losing me with "Putin is ready to usher in nuclear armageddon with strategic nukes, but not increased escalation from the west with tactical nukes"
My point was speculation on tactical nukes is nonsensical until there's something indicating it.
LORD IMPERATOR is the one who conflated that with nukes in general, I was never talking about strategic strikes except to say that's what any official is referencing when talking about Russia's nukes.

Russia's official stance so far has just been reminding the world they have ICBMs and that they're on the table if other powers try to fight against them. I emphasized that US intelligence reported no change in Russia's nuclear's readiness but that got ignored because it's more fun to imagine Putin is one button press away from annihilating the world at any perceived slight.

And there's a interesting video of Zelensky who could be possibly drunk or drugged who was saved before he deleted it.

And sadly lots of sheeps still believe then Zelensky is 100% a good guy...
I find it funny since I'm no fan of Zelensky but I think his drunkposting was pretty good all things considered. Not sure about the article, I've read similar stuff but it's all unfounded and we may never know the truth.
It is true this stuff goes back a bit and is much more complex than "lol putin the big mad and invaded ukraine for no raisin XD"
 
It is true this stuff goes back a bit and is much more complex than "lol putin the big mad and invaded ukraine for no raisin XD"
My big complaint is with the Nuland stuff. I'm vague on the specifics of the leak but the main take I got from a skim was that the USA had no real control of the situation, which is a far cry from what people keep harping it as. They assume that since the guy we wanted (Zelensky) got in, that the CIA or the State Department just magicked him into office or something. I've never seen any proof from them that we actually did that, though. Just "the guy the USA wanted got in so clearly they were orchestrating the whole thing from the beginning!"
 
My big complaint is with the Nuland stuff. I'm vague on the specifics of the leak but the main take I got from a skim was that the USA had no real control of the situation, which is a far cry from what people keep harping it as. They assume that since the guy we wanted (Zelensky) got in, that the CIA or the State Department just magicked him into office or something. I've never seen any proof from them that we actually did that, though. Just "the guy the USA wanted got in so clearly they were orchestrating the whole thing from the beginning!"
If anything, the guy we wanted getting in is decent evidence that the CIA wasn't involved.
 
My big complaint is with the Nuland stuff. I'm vague on the specifics of the leak but the main take I got from a skim was that the USA had no real control of the situation, which is a far cry from what people keep harping it as. They assume that since the guy we wanted (Zelensky) got in, that the CIA or the State Department just magicked him into office or something. I've never seen any proof from them that we actually did that, though. Just "the guy the USA wanted got in so clearly they were orchestrating the whole thing from the beginning!"
It wasn't even Zelensky, it was Poroshenko who was the pro-EU, pro-NATO puppet.
Zelensky came in after Poroshenko as an independent-party populist with some slightly Trumpish outsider vibes.

The biggest irony of Zelensky is he probably could have presided over a moderate, neutral Ukraine, but Russia (despite screaming "U made us do this!!!" nonstop) basically forced his hand into a borderline NATO asset.
 
If anything, the guy we wanted getting in is decent evidence that the CIA wasn't involved.
Well, if the CIA was pulling strings, there'd be glow-in-the-dark fingerprints all over the place. They're masters of covert infiltration and silent listening, but have an absolutely abominable track record both of success and deniability when it comes to more... direct actions. Subvert the head of Mikoyan-Gurevich so he passes us everything he gets from the other bureaus? Sure. Set up a bunch of front companies to buy Russian titanium cheap so we can build the Blackbirds out of them? No problem. Vacuum up the personal info of half the USA? Easy. Assassinate a guy who lives 90 miles off the Florida Keys? Uh... they'll get back to you on that.
 
These infos are probably already posted but it might be worth to repete and recapitulate.



And there's a interesting video of Zelensky who could be possibly drunk or drugged who was saved before he deleted it.

And sadly lots of sheeps still believe then Zelensky is 100% a good guy...
"America never has or had any business in Ukraine ever ever, it's none of our business. Today."
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My point was speculation on tactical nukes is nonsensical until there's something indicating it.
LORD IMPERATOR is the one who conflated that with nukes in general, I was never talking about strategic strikes except to say that's what any official is referencing when talking about Russia's nukes.

Russia's official stance so far has just been reminding the world they have ICBMs and that they're on the table if other powers try to fight against them. I emphasized that US intelligence reported no change in Russia's nuclear's readiness but that got ignored because it's more fun to imagine Putin is one button press away from annihilating the world at any perceived slight.


I find it funny since I'm no fan of Zelensky but I think his drunkposting was pretty good all things considered. Not sure about the article, I've read similar stuff but it's all unfounded and we may never know the truth.
It is true this stuff goes back a bit and is much more complex than "lol putin the big mad and invaded ukraine for no raisin XD"
The most worrying thingor recent event about Russia and nukes was those 2 planes that penetrated Finnish airspace back at the very begining of this were carrying actual nukes. Which quite frankly was an insane thing to do.
 
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May or may not at all be related to RF goings on like purges, economy.

Ex-Vice President of Gazprombank Vladislav Avayev seemingly killed his wife, daughter and then himself in a murder suicide.

Vladislav Avayev Wife And Family's Death Suspected To Be Murder-Suicide The death of Vladislav Avayev and his wife was already a hot topic of discussion on Reddit 3 days ago. Now a Twitter handle, Liveuamap confirmed it saying that their dead bodies were found in their house in Moscow. According to the authorities, the cause of death has been suspected to be a murder-suicide. There are theories put out that the family was going through a financial crisis which might have this.

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May or may not at all be related to RF goings on like purges, economy.

Ex-Vice President of Gazprombank Vladislav Avayev seemingly killed his wife, daughter and then himself in a murder suicide.

Vladislav Avayev Wife And Family's Death Suspected To Be Murder-Suicide The death of Vladislav Avayev and his wife was already a hot topic of discussion on Reddit 3 days ago. Now a Twitter handle, Liveuamap confirmed it saying that their dead bodies were found in their house in Moscow. According to the authorities, the cause of death has been suspected to be a murder-suicide. There are theories put out that the family was going through a financial crisis which might have this.

Source [Showbizcast] [Twitter] - Archive

This was an FSB blackout. I bet you.
 
This was an FSB blackout. I bet you.
Kinda shit thing to pull off almost right after putin said the west shot itself in the foot by imposing sanctions and how well russia is doing despite them, welp, now you've made it look like sure, west shot itself in the foot but russians are shooting themselves and their families in the head.

Could have Sergei Shoigu his ass with some magical heart condition nobody would look twice at after looking at the dude.
 
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