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I hope they all get dumped right in the middle of where the DC elites live.
That's mostly gated communities in Virginia and Maryland. Like someone mentioned before, if shit goes down in those neighborhoods, it will turn in to a South Africa situation where oligarch communities bring in private military contractors with "shoot to kill" orders.
 
Yes. I, from day one, said Trump would win vs Hillary and it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I was always agnostic about his win. I wasn't a big fan and I'm still not gay enough to get that pumped about a dude but..

At this point he, in so many ways, was unironically the best president of most of our lifetimes at least. Being so patriotically and egotistically unhinged is such a fucking vibe and really is what we need right now.

I think the 2020 steal was the best possible scenario and if/when Trump is back it's going to be very, very sick.
The 2020 steal might be one of the biggest phyrrhic victories in the history of American politics. I can't imagine anybody who has done more damage to the electability of the Democratic Party than Joe Biden. The Dems can't successfully blame the Republicans for all the hardships the country is going through because they have the White House and both chambers of Congress. Since Biden took office gases prices have skyrocketed, inflation is wiping out peoples' saving, illegal immigration is about to hit levels once thought inconceivable, and the administration has thrown their lot in with child groomers in a war against parents for who should have control over their kids. I doesn't help that Biden looks like he's going to put his other foot in the grave pretty soon. His replacement in Harris is just as inept and unlikable as Joe, but without the excuse of having her brain liquefying in real time. If Trump won in 2020, they could safely shriek about how he is Hitler 2.0 and is mere moments away from turning the United States in to a smoldering ash heap. Instead, Biden was installed and they revealed their true colors on various policies to a lot of people. The direct result of those polices is that the life of the average American is demonstrably worse now than it was under Trump, and people are going to hammer them for it come November.
 
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The best part of this is that it just might have taught a lesson to those idiots who shrieked "VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!"

That's not a good platform.

"I'm not the other guy" didn't work.

But, of course, most of them are claiming that the economic problems don't exist or are the fault of Trump and the Republicans.

"Gas is only this high because Trump didn't arm the Ukraine like Obama promised and Hunter tried to ensure. ORANGE MAN BAD!"
 
The best part of this is that it just might have taught a lesson to those idiots who shrieked "VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!"

That's not a good platform.

"I'm not the other guy" didn't work.

But, of course, most of them are claiming that the economic problems don't exist or are the fault of Trump and the Republicans.

"Gas is only this high because Trump didn't arm the Ukraine like Obama promised and Hunter tried to ensure. ORANGE MAN BAD!"
The damage isn't to the actual hardened voters of the Democrats, the ones currently trying to pretend it doesn't exist. Its to the many, many groups that people refer to as "Vote Blue, No Matter Who" who have only voted that way because those they trusted and believed in those self-same hardened voters.

The Democrats have always had an oddly low floor of voters who are actual hardened always vote for them no matter what voters. What they -have- had is a whole hell of a lot of people who trust them and their mouth pieces over the Republicans because the Democrats won the prior culture war.

It was Republicans seen as the ones sending college age kids off to war. It was Republicans seen as the ones who wanted to kill the gays. It was Republicans seen as the ones who hated blacks and Hispanics. It was republicans seen as the ones who were anti-woman. Etc. Etc. These groups therefore had a heavy lean towards the Democrats or more specifically away from Republicans.

And what the Democrats have handed to the Republicans on a silver platter in a way they can't really fuck up is a ton of reasons to lean away... from the Democrats. Short-term what you will get from this is a lot of people deciding "fuck them both" and just not voting. Long-term.... a lot more newer voters who would have fallen in the Lean-Democrat camp who now consider the Republicans a viable option. The stranglehold on these voting blocs has been severely damaged.
 
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The 2020 steal might be one of the biggest phyrrhic victories in the history of American politics. I can't imagine anybody who has done more damage to the electability of the Democratic Party than Joe Biden. The Dems can't successfully blame the Republicans for all the hardships the country is going through because they have the White House and both chambers of Congress. Since Biden took office gases prices have skyrocketed, inflation is wiping out peoples' saving, illegal immigration is about to hit levels once thought inconceivable, and the administration has thrown their lot in with child groomers in a war against parents for who should have control over their kids. I doesn't help that Biden looks like he's going to put his other foot in the grave pretty soon. His replacement in Harris is just as inept and unlikable as Joe, but without the excuse of having her brain liquefying in real time. If Trump won in 2020, they could safely shriek about how he is Hitler 2.0 and is mere moments away from tunring the United States in to a smoldering ash heap. Instead, Biden was installed and they revealed their true colors on various policies to a lot of people. The direct result of those polices is that the life of the average American is demonstrably worse now than it was under Trump, and people are going to hammer them for it come November.

There's your proof that there is a higher justice, and that a higher power either is watching, or has set things to correct themselves in nature...like correcting a temporal, or spatial, paradox.
 
A lot of optimism in this thread. The Afghan withdrawal was supposed to bring the administration down but nobody cared and the media successfully disappeared it by the end of the month. The poll numbers drop and drop but the Dems still do what they want and print more money whenever they feel like it. And when election time comes around everything will be Drumph's fault and the Dems who wavered will suddenly get back in line and the results will be close like they always are.

NPCs have to be programmed, and conservatives don't have permission to access. The country could become third world tomorrow and they'll just vote harder to spite the racist bigot huwhite supremacist Russian spies who caused it.
 
A lot of optimism in this thread. The Afghan withdrawal was supposed to bring the administration down but nobody cared and the media successfully disappeared it by the end of the month. The poll numbers drop and drop but the Dems still do what they want and print more money whenever they feel like it. And when election time comes around everything will be Drumph's fault and the Dems who wavered will suddenly get back in line and the results will be close like they always are.

NPCs have to be programmed, and conservatives don't have permission to access. The country could become third world tomorrow and they'll just vote harder to spite the racist bigot huwhite supremacist Russian spies who caused it.
Nobody with any serious look thought the Afghan situation wold bring it all down. What it, and every other major crisis, has done is incrementally but significantly damaged both the administration and the Democrats in general.
 
A lot of optimism in this thread. The Afghan withdrawal was supposed to bring the administration down but nobody cared and the media successfully disappeared it by the end of the month. The poll numbers drop and drop but the Dems still do what they want and print more money whenever they feel like it. And when election time comes around everything will be Drumph's fault and the Dems who wavered will suddenly get back in line and the results will be close like they always are.

NPCs have to be programmed, and conservatives don't have permission to access. The country could become third world tomorrow and they'll just vote harder to spite the racist bigot huwhite supremacist Russian spies who caused it.
“Hurr durr nothing ever happens”

Listen here, doomer faggot, if you seriously think that the Democrats are in the same or better position today than they were in 2020, you are literally delusional.

If the only win condition you’ll accept is the complete collapse of the Democratic Party, you are also delusional.

You’re declaring the enemy unbeatable and just walking away when everyone else who isn’t mind-rotted by doomerism has been watching the beast bleed for the last two years. Dooming right after the election is forgivable. Still dooming now in 2022 is sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality.
 
“Hurr durr nothing ever happens”

Listen here, doomer faggot, if you seriously think that the Democrats are in the same or better position today than they were in 2020, you are literally delusional.

If the only win condition you’ll accept is the complete collapse of the Democratic Party, you are also delusional.

You’re declaring the enemy unbeatable and just walking away when everyone else who isn’t mind-rotted by doomerism has been watching the beast bleed for the last two years.
Yes, this. Now you could still argue the bleeding won't topple it. Or that nobody will come up to finish it off. Or any slew of other endgames that aren't how people here want it to go. And you could argue for them. But to pretend nothing is different and the Democrats haven't been bleeding is simply... well, delusional.

Also, acknowledging the bleeding doesn't mean that someone automatically thinks things will all go well in the end. So much needs to occur before any victory can be called.
 
The 2020 steal might be one of the biggest phyrrhic victories in the history of American politics. I can't imagine anybody who has done more damage to the electability of the Democratic Party than Joe Biden. The Dems can't successfully blame the Republicans for all the hardships the country is going through because they have the White House and both chambers of Congress. Since Biden took office gases prices have skyrocketed, inflation is wiping out peoples' saving, illegal immigration is about to hit levels once thought inconceivable, and the administration has thrown their lot in with child groomers in a war against parents for who should have control over their kids. I doesn't help that Biden looks like he's going to put his other foot in the grave pretty soon. His replacement in Harris is just as inept and unlikable as Joe, but without the excuse of having her brain liquefying in real time. If Trump won in 2020, they could safely shriek about how he is Hitler 2.0 and is mere moments away from tunring the United States in to a smoldering ash heap. Instead, Biden was installed and they revealed their true colors on various policies to a lot of people. The direct result of those polices is that the life of the average American is demonstrably worse now than it was under Trump, and people are going to hammer them for it come November.
The victory would be a lot sweeter is the Democrats weren't in such strong denial about the failings. It's all either not as bad as we think or is somehow Trump's fault no matter what goes on. Kind of makes it bitter since they just dig their heels in the dirt and put fingers in their ears screeching about the Bad Orange Man.
 
The victory would be a lot sweeter is the Democrats weren't in such strong denial about the failings. It's all either not as bad as we think or is somehow Trump's fault no matter what goes on. Kind of makes it bitter since they just dig their heels in the dirt and put fingers in their ears screeching about the Bad Orange Man.
Let em. It only deepens the damage. They need to go all in because of it. Regardless of whether they think its viable or a good idea. Their absolute insistence on going forward and blaming Trump or it all has pushed them into a position where retreat is no longer an option.

If they want to hasten their own demise, let em.
 
“Hurr durr nothing ever happens”

Listen here, doomer faggot, if you seriously think that the Democrats are in the same or better position today than they were in 2020, you are literally delusional.

If the only win condition you’ll accept is the complete collapse of the Democratic Party, you are also delusional.

You’re declaring the enemy unbeatable and just walking away when everyone else who isn’t mind-rotted by doomerism has been watching the beast bleed for the last two years. Dooming right after the election is forgivable. Still dooming now in 2022 is sticking your head in the sand and ignoring reality.
I'm not declaring anyone unbeatable, but some of the posts on here are approaching The Donald levels of copium circa 2020 when GEOTUS was going to win by ten billion votes and lock up all the Dems and usher in a new era of staunch American conservatism. The Dems blatantly stole the election while the world watched, then bragged about it. Globohomo owns the media, every corporation, and pretty much every government in the West, and right now they are fighting a war to destroy one of the few remaining countries that refuses to bow before them. Pretending low poll numbers and a handful of bad press is going to mean anything come 2024 is the real doomerism. "B-b-but high gas prices and empty shelves are going to make Democracts vote Republican now, because they are so sensible and not NPCs at all!" Nigga wut?
 
Let em. It only deepens the damage. They need to go all in because of it. Regardless of whether they think its viable or a good idea. Their absolute insistence on going forward and blaming Trump or it all has pushed them into a position where retreat is no longer an option.

If they want to hasten their own demise, let em.
I get what you're saying, but when someone's losing and they refuse to acknowledge or believe they lost, it sucks a lot of fun out of it. I'd rather despair over denial.
 
I get what you're saying, but when someone's losing and they refuse to acknowledge or believe they lost, it sucks a lot of fun out of it. I'd rather despair over denial.
Just makes it all the sweeter once they do finally lose. I mean, the reactions to Trump winning 2016 wouldn't have been anywhere near as fun if they didn't think they had it in the bag.
 
Story going around now about Sleepy Joe shaking hands with Gaige Grosskreutz (aka the guy who is now a compulsory left thanks to a round from Kyle Rittenhouse).

And I gotta say, Joe's handlers are either completely stupid or asleep at the switch. Why, why, why would you ever have Joe in any kind of proximity to that fuck? Forget the politics; the optics alone are terrible unless you're one of those paint thinner huffers who's still convinced the prosecution can 'appeal' the Rittenhouse verdict.

Yes, I know, they're stupid, but dear God are they really that stupid?
 
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