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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Bit off topic, but Churchill was specifically talking about using tear gas in that instance - his use of the term poison gas was a catch-all term that does not really make sense in that context - and that this would be a useful way of repressing rebellions with less bloodshed. Notably, tear gas is used in riot control to this day!
Wasn't he interested in gassing the Kurds though? I seem to recall something about that.
All those 18 year old TDF volunteers in Kyiv who probably did not get to see combat are prime recruits too.
Not sure who specifically you mean by that, but I'm assuming so judging by age and eagerness. And sadly I can't find my original post about the reservists thanks to forum search being eternally shit.
 
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Russia (allegedly) continuing it's unbroken streak of being completely and utterly fucking retarded, in every possible way.
 
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Russia (allegedly) continuing it's unbroken streak of being completely and utterly fucking retarded, in every possible way.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't nab generals, but instead a couple of full birds. It's very possible that the Russians really haven't solved any communications issues.
 
The market will continue to fluctuate until morale improves:
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JAKARTA, April 22 (Reuters) - Indonesia, the world's top palm oil producer, announced plans to ban exports of the most widely used vegetable oil on Friday, in a shock move that could further inflame surging global food inflation.

The halting of shipments of the cooking oil and its raw material, widely used in products ranging from cakes to cosmetics, could raise costs for packaged food producers globally and force governments to choose between using vegetable oils in food or for biofuel. Indonesia counts for more than half of global palm oil supply.


In a video broadcast, Indonesia's President Joko Widodo said he wanted to ensure the availability of food products at home, after global food inflation soared to a record high following Russia's invasion of major crop producer Ukraine. read more

"I will monitor and evaluate the implementation of this policy so availability of cooking oil in the domestic market becomes abundant and affordable," he said.


The announcement will hurt consumers in top buyer India and globally, said, Atul Chaturvedi, president of trade body the Solvent Extractors Association of India (SEA).

"This move is rather unfortunate and totally unexpected," he said.

Alternative vegetable oil prices spiked in response to the measure which will take effect on April 28. Soybean oil, the second most used vegetable oil, rose 4.5% to a record high of 83.21 cents per pound on the Chicago Board of Trade . read more


Global prices of crude palm oil, which Indonesia uses for cooking oil, have surged to historic highs this year amid rising demand and weak output from top producers Indonesia and Malaysia, plus a move by Indonesia to restrict palm oil exports in January that was lifted in March.

Household product and food companies including Procter & Gamble Co (PG.N), Nestle SA (NESN.S) and Unilever PLC are large purchasers of palm oil. Oreo cookie maker Mondelez International Inc (MDLZ.O) accounts for 0.5% of palm oil consumption globally, according to its website.

Other countries have experimented with crop protectionism to try to keep domestic prices down. Argentina, the world's top exporter of processed soy, briefly halted new overseas sales of soy oil and meal in mid-March before hiking the export tax rate on those products to 33% from 31%.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture urged international cooperation during the war in Ukraine, rather than export bans.

Global edible oil prices have soared to all-time highs in 2022 on supply shocks

Global edible oil prices have soared to all-time highs in 2022 on supply shocks
Global edible oil markets have been roiled this year by Russia's invasion of Ukraine, a move Russia calls a "special operation" to demilitarise its neighbour, which cut off shipments of sunflower oil from the region.

The Black Sea accounts for 76% of world sunoil exports and commercial shipping from the region has been severely affected since Russian forces entered Ukraine in February. read more

People shop for cooking oil made from oil palms at a supermarket in Jakarta

People shop for cooking oil made from oil palms at a supermarket in Jakarta, Indonesia, March 27, 2022. REUTERS/Willy Kurniawan
Large supplies of alternatives including soy and rapeseed oil are not readily available either, after droughts hurt the most recent crops in Argentina, Brazil and Canada.

New facilities for processing soy and canola oil are expected to open in the United States and Canada respectively in coming years, as demand for plant-based biofuels grows, but ramping up production in the near term will be difficult.

Industry group the Clean Fuels Alliance America said the move could hurt biofuel producers, even though U.S. biodiesel and renewable diesel producers don't use palm oil, as supplies of all oils are tight.

"Sky would be the limit for edible oil prices now. Buyers were banking on palm oil after sunoil supplies fell because of the Ukraine war," a Mumbai-based dealer at a global trading firm said.

"Now they (buyers) don't have any option as soyoil supplies are also limited."

Malaysian producers say the world's No. 2 palm oil exporter, which is facing a production shortfall due to a pandemic-induced labour shortage, is unlikely to be able to plug the gap.

Indonesia has since 2018 stopped the issuance of new permits for palm oil plantations, often blamed for deforestation and destroying habitats of endangered animals such as orangutans.

Palm oil industry association GAPKI said it would adhere to the policy but had reservations.

"If this policy has any negative impact on the sustainability of the palm oil sector, we would ask the government to re-evaluate the policy," it said in a statement.

In Indonesia, the retail price of cooking oil averages 26,436 rupiah ($1.84) per litre, up more than 40% so far this year. In some provinces across the country, the prices have nearly doubled in the past month alone, according to a price monitoring page.

Demonstrations by students have taken place in several cities across Indonesia in recent days over high cooking oil prices.

Indonesia's government has set a cap of 14,000 rupiah per litre for bulk cooking oil, but Trade Ministry data showed that it was sold at more than 18,000 rupiah this month.

A government investigation is underway into alleged corruption involving sought-after export permits. read more

($1 = 14,356.0000 rupiah)

Couple this with Christine Lagarde (ECB) betting on an end to the conflict before September and we europoors are royally fucked, regardless of which side of the iron curtain you hail from.
The ECB's already dragged their feet on upping the interest rates post-COVID, which leaves them only with brute tools to combat the current crisis aka stagflation.
Predicting you can ride major events out and not take drastic measures regarding fiscal matters is arrogant af, not to mention Russia's unpredictability, or the aforementioned bullshit.
 
Finn parliament has voted to join NATO




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... and just like that Finns because Russia hating Nazis ... ; )

Also, WTF is up with working on Saturday?

Apparently this is complete Fake News. It's just someone tallying up the currently known voting intentions of Finnish MPs in the event of a vote which is likely to happen soon.

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Russia (allegedly) continuing it's unbroken streak of being completely and utterly fucking retarded, in every possible way.

Russia continues to send senior officers to the front for them to try and figure out why the fuck their techniques from the 40s aren't working in an era of drones, satelites and other military intelligence techniques.

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Ukraine war: Russia investigating reports of SAS 'sabotage' in western Lviv region​

Russia's main federal investigating authority says it will look at whether - according to a media report - the SAS has been sent in to "assist the Ukrainian special services in organising sabotage on the territory of Ukraine".
By Andy Hayes, news reporter
Saturday 23 April 2022 20:31, UK

The top investigative body in Russia is looking at whether the SAS is "organising sabotage" in Ukraine.
The Investigative Committee - Moscow's main federal investigating authority - said it would be following up on a report from Russia's RIA Novosti news agency.

RIA quoted a Russian security source as saying about 20 members of the SAS had been deployed in the western Lviv region, close to the border with Poland.

The Investigative Committee said it would look at whether - according to the report - the SAS had been sent in to "assist the Ukrainian special services in organising sabotage on the territory of Ukraine".

The possible presence of British special forces - from a NATO country - is significant, given that Moscow has warned the West not to get in the way of what it calls its "special military operation" in Ukraine.

Other key developments:
• President Zelenskyy says he will meet United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken in Kyiv tomorrow
• Boris Johnson speaks to Mr Zelenskyy about 'new phase' of military aid including heavy weapons
• British intelligence suggests Russia has made no major gains in the last 24 hours
• Attempt to evacuate civilians from Mariupol fails
• Satellite images appear to reveal mass grave outside Mariupol

Image:Ukrainian soldiers near Izyum in the Donetsk region
A week before the Russian invasion began, the British government said it had pulled all its troops out of Ukraine, except those needed to protect its ambassador.

UK personnel had been training local troops to use anti-tank weapons.
The temporarily closed Kyiv embassy will reopen next week, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced.
Information on the SAS - the Special Air Service - is often highly classified. Its operations include direct action and covert reconnaissance.

A Ministry of Defence spokesperson said: "We do not comment on special forces."
A defence source said: "We don't comment on stories around special forces, especially ones that are being pushed out by the Russian news agencies, because inaccurate speculation can put people's lives at risk, which is why we neither confirm nor deny reports."

Drunken Hololols have assistance from the pesky British SAS to help make war crimes to totally pin on Russia.

Because getting your ass beat by one of your former victims does not compute. They're of the same genotype, the same people! Therefore they must be as shit as us! Meaning it's got to be outsiders meddling!

In all honestly, it'd be stupid if the SAS wasn't already there, either embedded with Ukraines own SPECFOR or helping run missions for them. There were large deployments in Libya and Syria during the civil wars.
 
@mrdk_04 I can explain it to you since I live there. See, even before the war, the price for Palm Oil has been rising. This led to the plantation owners, all of whom are extremely rich conglomerates, to instead export it abroad instead of selling it domestically since it's much more profitable. This led to rising prices for cooking oil in the country

The government have tried to control it by using subsidy and capping the prices, but the plantation owners retaliated by blocking the suplly chain, leading to scarcity. The government then scrapped the idea and let the public just take the brunt of the rising prices....until now. This development is most likely going to change that
 
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@mrdk_04 I can explain it to you since I live there. See, even before the war, the price for Palm Oil has been rising. This led to the plantation owners, all of whom are extremely rich conglomerates, to instead export it abroad instead of selling it domestically since it's much more profitable. This led to rising prices for cooking oil in the country

The government have tried to control it by using subsidy and capping the prices, but the plantation owners retaliated by blocking the suplly chain, leading to scarcity. The government then scrapped the idea and let the public just take the brunt of the rising prices....until now. This development is most likely going to change that
Oh good, maybe this means they'll stop using that shit in every fucking thing ever.
 
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Ukrainians capture a Russian military working dog. Thankfully he was captured before some Russian soldier cooked or raped it. I wonder if Oryx will add it to the list.
One of the few things out of this fiasco, other than the military on military shit, which absolutely warms the cockles of my heart.
 
They're probably going the WW2 tactic of trying to starve out the enemy while refusing to understand the west will replace any shortage.
Apparently the US airlifted nothing but surplus lentils into Sarajevo for five years.

Also, nuts, rice, and fresh veggies are going to be expensive in the US this year with the drought in California.

I hope the people in Ukraine have a good backyard gardening tradition because they are going to need it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't nab generals, but instead a couple of full birds. It's very possible that the Russians really haven't solved any communications issues.
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Ukrainians just doing Russians favour by getting rid of shitty generals. lolz
I can't disagree, unfortunately this does nothing to the top brass so the shittiness will continue until all of them are deposed from power. The only way Russia could change any of its entranced shittiness is if their entire hierarchy were gutted top to bottom & the country had to start again from scratch.
 
Russia best hope now is trench warfare along with occasional bombing of Ukrainian cities like Odessa etc to discourage investment, while keeping war continuing so there is no rebuilding investment. Inflation and Energy prices will fuckup Europe and starvation in Africa might cause another Invasion crisis. Ruskies are pretty spiteful so its something pretty much possible.
 
With Ukraine being a key exporter of wheat and cooking oil ingredients it makes sense to begin targetting stuff they could use to raise further funds or Feed the West. It more than likely is the thought process in the Russians heads now that we're "stealing their traditional breadbasket" as Ukraine was always used as its main agricultural zone.

Russia is still fucked but hopefully they continue this,anything to cool Western Warthirst to avoid further Afganistan, getting hit in their wallets just might dissuade Neolibs and have them figure they already got their war so they dont need another one.
 
Russia is still fucked but hopefully they continue this,anything to cool Western Warthirst to avoid further Afganistan, getting hit in their wallets just might dissuade Neolibs and have them figure they already got their war so they dont need another one.
Dunno about you man but I'd rather NOT make worldwide food shortages any worse than they already are.
 
I can't disagree, unfortunately this does nothing to the top brass so the shittiness will continue until all of them are deposed from power. The only way Russia could change any of its entranced shittiness is if their entire hierarchy were gutted top to bottom & the country had to start again from scratch.

commanders dying in the field is a disaster for the forces under their command. replacing a commanding officer in the middle of an ongoing operation is a major headache for all parties involved, it takes time for a unit and a commander to adjust to each other, and armies at war generally do not have any time to spare. also, learning that your commander just got killed in action is pretty bad for a soldiers morale, it further weakens his confidence in the chain of command. if the officer corps can't even keep their own guys alive, how can i as a lowly grunt trust them to look out for and take proper care of me and my comrades down here in the trenches?

sure it won't magically collapse the whole command structure, to do that they would have to blow up gerasimov himself along with his inner circle of staff officers, but it's still a nice tactical victory for the ukrainians.
 
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