Trashfire The Lolcow Uprising - Baked Alaska, Ethan Ralph, and Nick Fuentes declare war on Jim/Metokur and other drama channels.

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We Wuz Wolvez said:
I remember how Nick used to always countersignal wignats over "optics" while presenting himself as some kind of poster boy for "good options". The shit is hilarious because Nick and AF are an optics dumpster fire (especially since Friday night).
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Die by the wignat or live long enough to become one.
 
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farms always wins, here's my low effort shitpost contribution

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wtfNeedSignUp said:
The one weak part Jim had is him taking forever to saying doxxing someone's parents is wrong. But that's probably him needing time to think back if he did it, so he wouldn't fuck himself in the debate. A tactic Nick could have used to not appear as a gigantic faggot.
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It was that and how Jim tried too hard to make it seem like Nick is not brave. At that point it would end up a discussion between what brave even is but thankfully Nick felt like he knew what it was and avoided that semantical moment by explaining he was brave to go to the place but not where he can get arrested.

It was where Jim wanted brave, stupid, and anti-law to all mean the same thing, which just gave ammo for Nick, which isn't a good thing since he rolled with it to then roll over and play dead.

If Jim had a leash on his sarcastic zingers and tried to make a cogent point, it probably would have gone better and became less of a pointless shit show by the half way point. The Spartacus thing was too easy for Nick to put the brakes on everything and waste time to make Jim look like a try-hard.
 
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Null said:
If Anglin's taking shots at the forum that's really funny. "Fanfic Farms" in particular is something Ralph coined. Imagine letting Ralph put anything in your mouth.
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I wasn't even aware Anglin associated with Nick. I would have assumed that Nick would have put anglin in the box of white nationalism 1.0 with Richard Spencer and TRS, which he denounced.

Is it that Anglin is coming out supporting nick, despite Nick denouncing him, if so that is really weird?
 
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Erwin Rotten said:
It was that and how Jim tried too hard to make it seem like Nick is not brave. At that point it would end up a discussion between what brave even is but thankfully Nick felt like he knew what it was and avoided that semantical moment by explaining he was brave to go to the place but not where he can get arrested.

It was where Jim wanted brave, stupid, and anti-law to all mean the same thing, which just gave ammo for Nick, which isn't a good thing since he rolled with it to then roll over and play dead.

If Jim had a leash on his sarcastic zingers and tried to make a cogent point, it probably would have gone better and became less of a pointless shit show by the half way point. The Spartacus thing was too easy for Nick to put the brakes on everything and waste time to make Jim look like a try-hard.
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It was a foregone conclusion it would be a shitshow and there really was no point for the whole event (which was supposedly whether flagging content was justifiable, a point that was barely talked about). Nick spoke for the vast majority of the stream and dug himself a grave for the rest of his remaining short internet career (being closeted gay edgelord incel) so further input from Jim was unnecessary.
 
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Col said:
Is it that Anglin is coming out supporting nick, despite Nick denouncing him, if so that is really weird?
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Maybe not. Anglin's editorial perspective with TDS is to write fast, short, opinionated news articles that keep content on TDS very fresh so people can check it multiple times per day. The objective is to spread white nationalism as an ideology. It may be that the idea is, "Nick can denounce us but he's a gateway to white nationalism". Though I think Anglin is a fucking pagan so I don't know.Anglin has also ironically endorsed people to try and cause problems for them. If Nick is continuously censored, he's pushed harder to more explicit white nationalists for support.

This is also an example of the site having no friends. We don't really have an underlying ideology. There are other drama sites that explicitly denounce us, the right hates us for dawksing their white brothers, the left hates us for deadnaming their queer folx and sisters, and yadda yadda. Very tiring.
 
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Null said:
Maybe not. Anglin's editorial perspective with TDS is to write fast, short, opinionated news articles that keep content on TDS very fresh so people can check it multiple times per day. The objective is to spread white nationalism as an ideology. It may be that the idea is, "Nick can denounce us but he's a gateway to white nationalism". Though I think Anglin is a fucking pagan so I don't know.Anglin has also ironically endorsed people to try and cause problems for them. If Nick is continuously censored, he's pushed harder to more explicit white nationalists for support.

This is also an example of the site having no friends. We don't really have an underlying ideology. There are other drama sites that explicitly denounce us, the right hates us for dawksing their white brothers, the left hates us for deadnaming their queer folx and sisters, and yadda yadda. Very tiring.
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It really does suck that every ideology is gay and autistic except for the predominant one.
 
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Null said:
Maybe not. Anglin's editorial perspective with TDS is to write fast, short, opinionated news articles that keep content on TDS very fresh so people can check it multiple times per day. The objective is to spread white nationalism as an ideology. It may be that the idea is, "Nick can denounce us but he's a gateway to white nationalism". Though I think Anglin is a fucking pagan so I don't know.Anglin has also ironically endorsed people to try and cause problems for them. If Nick is continuously censored, he's pushed harder to more explicit white nationalists for support.

This is also an example of the site having no friends. We don't really have an underlying ideology. There are other drama sites that explicitly denounce us, the right hates us for dawksing their white brothers, the left hates us for deadnaming their queer folx and sisters, and yadda yadda. Very tiring.
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Anglin LARPs as a sudden pious Christian the way Baked and Beardson do. It's not confusing that Anglin is actually tight with Cozy/AF because Anglin abandoned his "ironic" skinhead LARP right after meddling in the local issues of the Spencer family and kicked out his audience. The Daily Stormer is a Republican blog. That's not a joke. Anglin and Fuentes are birds of a feather and just like how Fuentes made rehabilitating Milo, Baked, and Ethan Ralph the mandatory agenda, Andrew Anglin is the next on list and if anyone in AF brings up anything Anglin did in the past they will be expelled the same way everyone else who questioned him about Baked did.
 
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Col said:
I wasn't even aware Anglin associated with Nick. I would have assumed that Nick would have put anglin in the box of white nationalism 1.0 with Richard Spencer and TRS, which he denounced.
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Null said:
It may be that the idea is, "Nick can denounce us but he's a gateway to white nationalism".
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Fuentes & Anglin have been mutual admirers for a long, long time. I'm not aware of Fuentes having ever grouped Anglin among the optics-deficient, which shows you how insincere that meme was.

The key to understanding Fuentes' trajectory is knowing that after Charlottesville, he sided with a coalition of more or less overt neo-Nazis, including Anglin, who decided that the media's single-minded focus on Richard Spencer could be manipulated to their own benefit. The YouTube stream called The Weekly Sweat never had many viewers, but it was in some ways the nexus of this. Fuentes was a regular guest, practically a third co-host. Beardson was the most long-running co-host. Anglin was a guest once, & had praised the stream previous to going on it, calling it "influential." (It wasn't, but a lot of energy went into pushing that claim.) Ralph was also a guest & (usually) a friend of the stream. Fuentes & Ralph had their peace summit there.

I'm not very knowledgeable about Anglin, but the stream's fixation was on "irony," by which they essentially meant, dishonesty--dishonesty about their politics, about whether their jokes were only jokes, about why they attacked whom they attacked, & pretty much anything else you could name. It was about cheering on the media's attack on Spencer & others who Fuentes could then supplant. It was also about abandoning IRL events & earnest political talk in favor of long internet streams & ambiguous humor in which kids with unformed brains could be shaped into paypigs on the one hand, & social dependents on the other. In my opinion, it was bad.

The Weekly Sweat episode with Anglin doesn't seem to be online anymore, but Beardson's recent stream with Anglin is here. They agree that women are whores who often need a good slap.
 
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Stanley Tit said:
Fuentes & Anglin have been mutual admirers for a long, long time. I'm not aware of Fuentes having ever grouped Anglin among the optics-deficient, which shows you how insincere that meme was.

The key to understanding Fuentes' trajectory is knowing that after Charlottesville, he sided with a coalition of more or less overt neo-Nazis, including Anglin, who decided that the media's single-minded focus on Richard Spencer could be manipulated to their own benefit. The YouTube stream called The Weekly Sweat never had many viewers, but it was in some ways the nexus of this. Fuentes was a regular guest, practically a third co-host. Beardson was the most long-running co-host. Anglin was a guest once, & had praised the stream previous to going on it, calling it "influential." (It wasn't, but a lot of energy went into pushing that claim.) Ralph was also a guest & (usually) a friend of the stream. Fuentes & Ralph had their peace summit there.

I'm not very knowledgeable about Anglin, but the stream's fixation was on "irony," by which they essentially meant, dishonesty--dishonesty about their politics, about whether their jokes were only jokes, about why they attacked whom they attacked, & pretty much anything else you could name. It was about cheering on the media's attack on Spencer & others who Fuentes could then supplant. It was also about abandoning IRL events & earnest political talk in favor of long internet streams & ambiguous humor in which kids with unformed brains could be shaped into paypigs on the one hand, & social dependents on the other. In my opinion, it was bad.

The Weekly Sweat episode with Anglin doesn't seem to be online anymore, but Beardson's recent stream with Anglin is here. They agree that women are whores who often need a good slap.
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This is why we needed to unite the right at Charlottesville. If we had won we wouldn't have had this endless infighting and there wouldn't have been a power vacuum for Nick and Ralph. They pull this shit and everyone would have just been able to clown on them.
 
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