Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

Curious what they think the market is for Spelljammer? Do they really think anyone who isn't playing it already is going to flock to it because of a marketing blitz? Same goes for Dragonlance - seems like niche shit to spend the time updating for people who will just play normal stuff they see Matt Mercer and the Stranger Thing kids doing. Really curious what the angle will be for Dragonlance because at least SJ you can say D&D... IN.... SPAAAAAACE!
 
Curious what they think the market is for Spelljammer? Do they really think anyone who isn't playing it already is going to flock to it because of a marketing blitz? Same goes for Dragonlance - seems like niche shit to spend the time updating for people who will just play normal stuff they see Matt Mercer and the Stranger Thing kids doing. Really curious what the angle will be for Dragonlance because at least SJ you can say D&D... IN.... SPAAAAAACE!
I can sort of see why they would do Spelljammer, it's weird and kind of unique and they can tell all the new players, "Hey check it out, pirates in space!". To be fair that was the reason TSR did it in second edition, TSR just happened to have guys that really loved writing complex settings on top of that. You'll get some writing from this all right but it's not going to have any deep lore.

That being said I'm hesitant to shit on the idea of doing Spelljammer in principle, I'd like to see simple rules for running spelljammer combat and if 5e is anything, it's nice and simple. It's welcome news from that because I was musing about including a spelljammer in my current game way down the line so if I can grab some simple rules that my players can understand kind of quickly that's a good thing. I don't really care about what lore they add to it because I have my own anyway.

As for Dragonlance... I have no fucking clue. I would understand if they were pairing it with some new books from the original authors but they can't do that now because they were complete assholes about the whole thing. If you cut out the nostalgia and the stories Weiss and Hickman created, Krynn is just another generic fantasy setting with extra dragons and retarded halflings. Maybe they're trying to appeal to the "people that want to fuck dragons" crowd, which is larger than you'd expect if /tg/ is any indication.
 
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Curious what they think the market is for Spelljammer? Do they really think anyone who isn't playing it already is going to flock to it because of a marketing blitz? Same goes for Dragonlance - seems like niche shit to spend the time updating for people who will just play normal stuff they see Matt Mercer and the Stranger Thing kids doing. Really curious what the angle will be for Dragonlance because at least SJ you can say D&D... IN.... SPAAAAAACE!

Its the same reason they did updated, castrated Ravenloft: Posers chasing clout.
These old modules have name-brand recognition. All the Critical Role cast offs fagging up the community read about Spell Jammer & Dragon Lance and everyone's stories about them, and they want their old school nerd cred too. Sure you could just get those old settings books, but they are filled with all sorts of wrong think and you have to a little math to translate the numbers.
 
There's gold in them thar authoritarian hellholes, sadly. Neo-liberal Capitalism at any cost.
It doesn't help that Wizards will never get a beat down like Disney did by a state government. Washington state is a solid Blue state with the mantra here being "Vote Blue no matter who!". It also doesn't help that the states governor, Jay Inslee, is a staunch ally and lap dog of the World Economic Forum and grooming kids into the LGBTQ death cult is part of their plan. I guarantee you that Wizards executive board is filled with weirdos who groom their kids to be trannies and what not just like Disney. The only way for Wizards to face any repercussions for the vile bullshit that they have done is for them to colossally fuck up like Netflix. It will happen one day but it will probably be years before that happens. WoTC needs a Discovery to wipe clean the entire company and start over from the ashes.
 
I went to the Palladium Open House recently and pretty much all the games I played (All Rifts) were run by ex-military guys, and they were all bog-standard, "tanks, machine guns, and demons" kind of games with little real variety.

I picked Palladium because it was the only major games company I knew of that seemed to have managed to avoid the Wokepocalypse that has ruined so much else in the tabletop gaming space, so I guess I got what I "wanted".

Is this what we have to pick from as gamers? Either we have weirdo faggots inserting their mental issues into everything, or we have just boring stories about space marines shooting demons?
 
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It doesn't help that Wizards will never get a beat down like Disney did by a state government. Washington state is a solid Blue state with the mantra here being "Vote Blue no matter who!". It also doesn't help that the states governor, Jay Inslee, is a staunch ally and lap dog of the World Economic Forum and grooming kids into the LGBTQ death cult is part of their plan. I guarantee you that Wizards executive board is filled with weirdos who groom their kids to be trannies and what not just like Disney. The only way for Wizards to face any repercussions for the vile bullshit that they have done is for them to colossally fuck up like Netflix. It will happen one day but it will probably be years before that happens. WoTC needs a Discovery to wipe clean the entire company and start over from the ashes.

WotC isn't it's own company anymore. It's just a Hasbro division now. Nerds skew woke, so none of this nonsense will hurt their sales, sadly enough.

Its the same reason they did updated, castrated Ravenloft: Posers chasing clout.
These old modules have name-brand recognition. All the Critical Role cast offs fagging up the community read about Spell Jammer & Dragon Lance and everyone's stories about them, and they want their old school nerd cred too. Sure you could just get those old settings books, but they are filled with all sorts of wrong think and you have to a little math to translate the numbers.
The old settings are sold in PDF for cheap. Some are even PoD. I've been running classic settings with 5e rules for years.
 
WotC isn't it's own company anymore. It's just a Hasbro division now. Nerds skew woke, so none of this nonsense will hurt their sales, sadly enough.
The new Hasbro CEO is a former WoTC executive who was responsible for overseeing all the Woke shit be put in D&D and Magic The Gathering. So expect more of this crap in other Hasbro products.
We already are seeing some of WoTC sales go through a slump. Covid is now basically over. People are going outside now instead of spending all day indoors. It also doesn't help that the economy is in a rough spot right now due to inflation. As such people don't have a lot of money to spend on hobbies or luxury items. Covid being over, inflation and mediocre and Woke products is what lead to Netflix's decline and possible collapse. It will happen to WoTC too and they know it. That is why they are digging into the past with Spelljammer and Dragonlance in order to stir up interest with D&D as they know things aren't going to go the way they want it to.
 
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It doesn't help that Wizards will never get a beat down like Disney did by a state government. Washington state is a solid Blue state with the mantra here being "Vote Blue no matter who!". It also doesn't help that the states governor, Jay Inslee, is a staunch ally and lap dog of the World Economic Forum and grooming kids into the LGBTQ death cult is part of their plan. I guarantee you that Wizards executive board is filled with weirdos who groom their kids to be trannies and what not just like Disney. The only way for Wizards to face any repercussions for the vile bullshit that they have done is for them to colossally fuck up like Netflix. It will happen one day but it will probably be years before that happens. WoTC needs a Discovery to wipe clean the entire company and start over from the ashes.
*sigh* This again? As I've said before, all that shit implies that Disney actually has a set of morals other than "make money". Not every soulless corporate body looking to tap into queer capitalism is automatically some pizzagate hellhole full of sex offenders, calm down.

Ain't saying it's impossible, just saying it's more than likely that it's just a dumbass company hoping to tap the Chinese and wokescold market at the expense of most other gamers.
 
Raistlin is going to be a black female enby.
That would be hilarious, considering Raistlin's personal story arc consists of brutal pragmatism, a tendency to backstab anyone and everyone to get ahead, and a bad future where everyone fucking died when he became supreme god of Krynn.
 
*sigh* This again? As I've said before, all that shit implies that Disney actually has a set of morals other than "make money". Not every soulless corporate body looking to tap into queer capitalism is automatically some pizzagate hellhole full of sex offenders, calm down.

Ain't saying it's impossible, just saying it's more than likely that it's just a dumbass company hoping to tap the Chinese and wokescold market at the expense of most other gamers.
Clearly you have not been following recent events between Disney and Florida.
 
I have to say that it is funny that companies like Disney and WoTC are trying to get back OG fans after spending the past 5 years belittling, demeaning and slandering them by calling them racist, sexists, homophobic and transphobic bigots and how they don't want them as an audience anymore. Now here they are, crawling back to us. I am going to be a bit White Pilled here but I think we are seeing a change for the positive. Pandering to childless, Woke, hipster, gender blob Millennials isn't working out for companies anymore. Especially in this economy. They need the financial stability that only the OG fans can give them. These companies will never admit that Woke shit doesn't sell but expect them to silently walk back on the Woke politics and dial back the Woke shit in their products. The only question though is is it too late?
 
I have to say that it is funny that companies like Disney and WoTC are trying to get back OG fans after spending the past 5 years belittling, demeaning and slandering them by calling them racist, sexists, homophobic and transphobic bigots and how they don't want them as an audience anymore. Now here they are, crawling back to us. I am going to be a bit White Pilled here but I think we are seeing a change for the positive. Pandering to childless, Woke, hipster, gender blob Millennials isn't working out for companies anymore. Especially in this economy. They need the financial stability that only the OG fans can give them. These companies will never admit that Woke shit doesn't sell but expect them to silently walk back on the Woke politics and dial back the Woke shit in their products. The only question though is is it too late?

This isn't dialing back the woke shit. This is them trying to "Hello fellow children boomers" hoping to snag some mindless 'well my table just ignores that part' consoomers but really they are trying to give the Woke Posers that have infested the table top space the clout they desperately chase.

Various levels of wokeshit does sell, sadly. Especially when there is no alternative. And they can wait for the frog to boil. I mean, even 20 years ago having an open tranny attached to your media, let alone talking about how you need to kowtow to the mentally ill, would have killed you. Now it barely gets any push back, and tons of praise for being brave.

tl;dr they aren't trying to win you back. They've just stopped beating you as much.


Is this what we have to pick from as gamers? Either we have weirdo faggots inserting their mental issues into everything, or we have just boring stories about space marines shooting demons?

Pretty much. Ever since the cluster fuck that was the 2007 WGA strike, big media has learned that if you insert queers, your story can be shit and it'll still make 80% of the money of something that was good but you had to put in 50% of the effort, so its a win. You hire a bunch of retarded college grads, put them on salary so you 100% own everything they create (lol cuck wendig), and convince them they are making a difference so they never renegotiate. And because the company owns the creative output outright, when they're done with their writers they ball them up, toss them away, and recruit the next round of retarded graduates too dumb to realize they're being exploited.

Anyone who is competent is either grown down by design-by-committee - because they have no creative control outside of who's gay, or goes into business by themselves to languish in obscurity. There is also no one to learn from, no one gets any experience, and all the writers conferences are about pronouns and orangeman bad.

The old settings are sold in PDF for cheap. Some are even PoD. I've been running classic settings with 5e rules for years.

But those old settings have Slavery, the fur trade, un-woke language, regressive gender roles, the gender binary, and no one talks about how super duper gay they are and how hard it was dealing with bigots!
I mean, the original Keep on the Borderlands doesn't have a single fashion show, let alone gay prom! How dare you support racists like that.
 
*sigh* This again? As I've said before, all that shit implies that Disney actually has a set of morals other than "make money". Not every soulless corporate body looking to tap into queer capitalism is automatically some pizzagate hellhole full of sex offenders, calm down.

Ain't saying it's impossible, just saying it's more than likely that it's just a dumbass company hoping to tap the Chinese and wokescold market at the expense of most other gamers.

That leaked information showing Disney is planning to put more LGBTQ propaganda into kids' entertainment is just Russian disinformation!
 
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