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Everyone thought the catboy date was bad. Most don't care about Baked's streams harassing people, there seems to be a general apathy towards the working class.What did the movement think about the date with the catboi, and what do they think about bakeds behavior towards random strangers and minimum wagies in his streams.
Did you attend any AFPAC?
Or Stop the Steal?
If so, what were the requirements for attending, and were there any vip meetings or after parties? Lastly, were there any females at all, or just the bros?
There's no formal membership. There's no cards, applications, or interviews (unless you go through the intern program). Everything is very decentralized past Nick being the leader.Is there anything that formally "makes" you a member? Or is it just something you can consider yourself if you agree with the general ideas/mission?
I wouldn't say "close" but I've spoken privately to Jon Miller and Vince James. The older guys are harder to have a relationship with. I mainly knew the younger guys. I would consider myself friends with Dalton, Kai, Tyler, and others.You don't have to say which ones, but are you close with anyone higher up? Like, "generals" or anything like that?
All of the group chats I've been in have been totally unorganized and decentralized. It's usually just a random groyper who adds a bunch of other groypers to a chat and starts sending memes. There's nothing that damning in the chat's I've been in other than occasional seething over alogs or some unoptical Hitler memes. I'm sure there are organized adhoc group chats that are more serious and used for conducting actual business, but I've never been in one of those ones before.Is there a vetting process for group chats? What sorts of group chats are there?
I meant that there's a large amount of time and energy being used for damage control. No one talks about Jews or Blacks anymore, now it's all about MUH WIGNATS!!! now.Could you elaborate on this as well? Not just how it is damaging roughly, but also what those internal workings are?
To my knowledge Nick has never addressed the Kino Casino formally, but you guys would know better than me. I haven't watched Nicks show in weeks.How is that going? Does he ever respond?
Dalton is not 34. I never said that, and people who are saying that are retarded. And yes, you should take everything I say with a grain of salt. I'm not anyone special, but only a former groyper who was/is close with a number of other groypers and some Cozy streamers. I'm here to tell about what those people were talking about behind closed doors and provide any other info I might have.Always the chance that AF is doing gayops feeding misinformation here, like the fact that Dalton was allegedly 34 but is 21
I've only heard people talk about how AF has "special operations" to find enemies online. I'm assuming there's a "division" of sorts that runs the "gayops" on this website and others. All of what I heard is just rumors though.can you go more in-depth about the catboy CIA shit that's pretty interesting
Of the people who don't like him none of them are willing to stick their neck out to go after him though. I was never that interested in Ralph, so I never inquired much about him to other groypers. I'll ask around about him. I usually asked their thoughts on Baked and Beardson and tons of people have a problem with those 2.What do the higher ups legitimately think about the Gunt
I've heard some groypers mention this before. It's not something widely known, but I've heard it come up before.Has anyone acknowledged that Nick coopted the Groyper meme and that he didn't create it
I'm very hesitant to release any information that could lead to me getting doxed. I know groypers lurk on here a lot and they're probably already trying to find out who I am. These circles are a lot smaller than you would think and it wouldn't be hard to track me down if any of my info gets leaked. Send me a DM and I'll try to provide some proof I'm connected with AF higher ups, but I can't give away too much info because I need to protect myself. As I said before, these people know my name, face, where I live, etc. and as silly as it might sound to you guys, some groypers take this internet stuff really seriously and will try to ruin my life for being a "traitor."an you post any evidence what so ever to support this? I can verify things privately if you want to DM me instead.
well, he's also a "literally who." I doubt that everyone on there does it, and this goes against all of the hard and circumstantial evidence of viewbotting on cozy (i.e, How easy it is to do, the behavior of live chats that supposedly have a few thousand people in them, disproportionate views to donations, etc.) The "big dogs" so to speak viewbotting on cozy is not mutually exclusive to some random guy I've never heard of who is apparently new to the platform not being able to break 100 viewsCarson manages to squander the post-AF audience. He barely had 100 viewers last night and there was like nobody else streaming. He said that was his highest view count to date, which is easy to believe because he averages less than 20 when there are more than a handful of other people streaming at the same time. Yes, even less viewers than the Alex Jones mirror. So I'm reassessing the claim that Cozy messes with the streaming numbers, or maybe they only do so for Nick.
Its grown over 500 pages on the last 4ish monthsHow much of these pages were after the louis theroux doc?
Page 762 is the first page after the doc was released, but this thread was dedicated to discussion about it.How much of these pages were after the louis theroux doc?
This thread was created on Jan 6th 2020, and the one-year anniversary only happens on page 184. The next year spans from pages 184-662, and from then until now(338 pages) has taken less than 4 months. There's a bit of politisperging and filler posts in this thread but the overwhelming majority of the drama has happened after the first year since this thread's inception, too. Ever since the Patrick Casey drama, it's all been downhill.Happy 1000 pages, Nick!
Dalton is not 34. I never said that, and people who are saying that are retarded. And yes, you should take everything I say with a grain of salt. I'm not anyone special, but only a former groyper who was/is close with a number of other groypers and some Cozy streamers. I'm here to tell about what those people were talking about behind closed doors and provide any other info I might have.
I think as long as Nick does his show there will be an AF. It really does run like a cult. I've spoken to guys in the past who have openly said "I'm done with AF, I've lost faith in Nick" and literally the next day they're watching his show and talking about him being the savior of America. I think most of the sensible people (Casey, CWC, RPG) have jumped shipped. I've actually spoke to all 3 of those guys in the past and was shocked how reasonable each were (minus Casey being kind of socially awkward). I felt bad for hating on these people in the past just because Nick said they were bad. The anti-mask guy (Ethan Schmitt?) seems like a good guy too, though I've never spoken to him. I'm surprised Kai hasn't left, but he's always remained very loyal to AF and Nick, even in private.So given what you know about the innards of AF and various private opinions people have on other members, where do you see AF or Cozy in 6 months ? A year ?
Just further up Nick's ass tickling his tonsils, splintering or being completely buck broken?
I can confirm that neither of them are spies for PPP (unfortunately). Kai was really mad about being called a spy though. If you guys ever want to talk to him, just DM him asking if he's really a spy. He'll respond in 2 seconds and start ranting about the Kino Casino and their "slander."Kai and Alberto being personal spies for PPP,
There's Nick, the old fags (Beardson, Baked, Franssen), the new fags (Kai, Dalton, UX) and then everyone else. There's absolutely no structure and something people often complain about is how hard it is to get a hold of Nick.Can you draw us a rough org chart of what the organisation looks like on the inside?
Dalton, Kai, Beardson, UX, Baked, Franssen, Jaden, Vince, and a few others have Nicks direct contact. Most of the Cozy people have to go through one of them (usually whoever they're closest friends with) to get a hold of Nick. There's also a "NJF Support" email, but I don't think that goes directly to Nick.Which gropyper generals answer to Nick directly, which streamers answer to these groyper generals in turn?
To my knowledge, most of the "departments" are adhoc, meaning they're created and disbanded as necessary. These are all invite only, and I've never been invited to one, so I don't know any specific details. I'll ask around and see if anyone I know is in any. Things are very decentralized, so if you want to contribute to the movement there's no application form. You literally just DM a groypers, hope they know a groyper general, and that the general will contact Nick for you. It's the polar opposite of Patriot Front which is extremely structured and efficient.What sort of 'departments' are there
No, things aren't that organized. I think Nick is too insecure to allow others to be in positions of leadership. Imagine if Vince James got to lead a chapter in AF. Who would still follow Nick? James is a better leader in everyway. Nick wants to remain completely in control which means not giving away any positions of power to anyone else. There are occasional get togethers but those aren't meetings or anything, it's just for the sake of hanging out.Are there regional chapters (and leaders) throughout the country and do they have IRL meetups like TRS style 'poolparties'?
I know some people at Cal and USC who follow Nick.Does Nick have any following at all in elite schools or is it all 2nd or 3rd rate state schools and colleges?
There's no official membership. You simply gain influence with members in the movement (usually via relentless ball washing) then you get introduced to higherups. You play video games with them, share memes with them, and talk to them at events. That's how you find yourself a place in AF.Do you have a membership card or other proof of membership? Is there a hazing/initiation period that you go through to become a member?
I wasn't involved with any of the opsec guys, so I don't know any details on that. For me there was no "vetting." I attended AFPAC, met some guys I clicked with. We played fortnite together, talked on Instagram/Gab/Twitter, and now I'm connected with multiple AF leaders.How does AF deal with Fed/antifa infiltration attempts?
They don't care if you leave. You can just slowly fade out and people won't really notice. Even generals like James, Franssen, and McNeil have faded in and out of the AF sphere. What they don't tolerate is being a "traitor." If you turn your back on AF publicly they'll come after you with all that they have. If you're some anonymous shit poster that's not a problem because they don't have anything on you. But for people like me, I know these people in person, so there's a lot more damage that can be done to me. There's a saying I hear them say "it's better to kill 1 traitor than 100 enemies" or something like that. It goes without saying they're not going to literally kill someone, but that's the mentality they have towards "traitors."Can you do it without getting hurt?
I know Milo and Jon are fags. I'm not sure about the rest. Take it with a grain of salt, but I think Nick might actually be gay (as in a literally homosexual). I'm just basing this off his mannerisms. I've spoken to him once at AFPAC and he sounds like a diva/drama queen.Who are all the confirmed/alleged homosexual members in AF?
I would argue that after the Culture War Criminal/RPGTV drama that occurred in September 2021, this thread especially started to accelerate in terms of posts. The Patrick Casey drama was the impetus but the CWC/RPG saga really saw a rapid spread in content posted hereHow much of these pages were after the louis theroux doc?
I know Milo and Jon are fags. I'm not sure about the rest. Take it with a grain of salt, but I think Nick might actually be gay (as in a literally homosexual). I'm just basing this off his mannerisms. I've spoken to him once at AFPAC and he sounds like a diva/drama queen.
It would also be interesting to know when AF and the groypers turned into a movement for children instead of one for young adults. Was AF always like that ? Did it become like that after the TikTok crossover ?I would argue that after the Culture War Criminal/RPGTV drama that occurred in September 2021, this thread especially started to accelerate in terms of posts. The Patrick Casey drama was the impetus but the CWC/RPG saga really saw a rapid spread in content posted here
In other news water is fucking wet.I know Milo and Jon are fags. I'm not sure about the rest. Take it with a grain of salt, but I think Nick might actually be gay (as in a literally homosexual). I'm just basing this off his mannerisms. I've spoken to him once at AFPAC and he sounds like a diva/drama queen.
Couldn't reply to your other post so I'll reply to this one, not sure if you know this but the person saying you can DM them (Null) is the owner/admin of this site, you can give him information/dox to verify what you're saying, he's not going to dox you or use it to fuck with you. Until then there's really no way that any of this is meaningful information and you're essentially just LARPing/shitting up the thread with this.I'm very hesitant to release any information that could lead to me getting doxed. I know groypers lurk on here a lot and they're probably already trying to find out who I am. These circles are a lot smaller than you would think and it wouldn't be hard to track me down if any of my info gets leaked. Send me a DM and I'll try to provide some proof I'm connected with AF higher ups, but I can't give away too much info because I need to protect myself. As I said before, these people know my name, face, where I live, etc. and as silly as it might sound to you guys, some groypers take this internet stuff really seriously and will try to ruin my life for being a "traitor."
I don't have any issues with him, he's a nice canuck. I heard that he got vaxed to go to AFPAC, I didn't hear about this at the time but definitely would've confirmed that with him at the event if I knew then. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true, and if he did that, that's really shameful.What’s your opinion on the Red headed step child of AF (Tyler Russell) and Canada First? What do you think of TLR compromising his principles so that he can attend both AFPAC 2 in 2021 and AFPAC 3 earlier this year?
Each day there are more groypers who are losing faith in Nick. If Nick wanted to reverse this he can just make serious political content again and claim everything he's done in the past is irony. Most groypers are loyal to a fault. They love Nick so much that even if they finally did leave after being fed up with all Nick's retarded takes, they would immediately jump back into his arms as soon as he starts making serious content again. I think a lot of you guys are thinking in terms of groypers as a block, which is incorrect. You should think of gropers as either high or low quality. America First will never go away because America First is just Nick and his show. What will go away is the higher quality members of AF (CWC, Ethan, Casey, etc.) which will lead to AF not being a serious movement and effectively just a group of lolcows who can't achieve anything. This is one of the problems Nick has, he obsesses over his viewership numbers but not over the quality of viewers he has. CWC has a 10 great guys who work for him, and they can accomplish more than 1,000 groypers can. Yet Nick cares less about results than about "muh live stream numbers."do AF insiders have the feeling that nick is too far gone and cant be reined in at this point because that's how it appears from the outside.
fake and gayThe only verification @UndercoverAF was willing to share with me was a few screenshots of his social media circle and a heavily redacted screenshot with a prominent AF streamer on Cozy.
Aside from the Kino Casino and Kiwi Farms, who are the biggest enemies of America First? Any names that still show up like Steel Puma or Biggie Slonk? RPGTV covers AF drama all the time, do any of the groypers address it?I know Milo and Jon are fags. I'm not sure about the rest. Take it with a grain of salt, but I think Nick might actually be gay (as in a literally homosexual). I'm just basing this off his mannerisms. I've spoken to him once at AFPAC and he sounds like a diva/drama queen.