Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

Mallory's life is like Tusk directed by Catherine Breillat. except it's real life so instead of making swiss people give it a trophy, it just makes all people cry.

Disagree. Mallory is living Paschal Laugier's Martyrs. Just when the protagonist couldn't be any stupider, or a bigger faggot, she KEEPS. GOING. BACK. IN. THE. HOUSE. even after finding the Happy funtime friendship and tolerance unicorn rainbow camp.

I'm waiting for Lilly the man-face homewrecker to start wearing FAIL-ory's skin...or just discard it, who cares...
 
Disagree. Mallory is living Paschal Laugier's Martyrs. Just when the protagonist couldn't be any stupider, or a bigger faggot, she KEEPS. GOING. BACK. IN. THE. HOUSE. even after finding the Happy funtime friendship and tolerance unicorn rainbow camp.

I'm waiting for Lilly the man-face homewrecker to start wearing FAIL-ory's skin...or just discard it, who cares...
yeah but mallory already knows god isn't real so why is she flaying herself? it actually makes even less sense than martyrs.
 
Spiked have given Joe space to respond to Brendan O'Neill's review of his terrible book:

'A wierd little diatribe' / archive
O'Neill should threaten him with a lawsuit for this libel.

Unfortunately it would get painted as a butthurt transphobe making legal threats to silence a brave and stunning trans woman rather than as mockery of what Lavery did to Singal.
 
yeah but mallory already knows god isn't real so why is she flaying herself? it actually makes even less sense than martyrs.
Aggressively non-religious* people often elevate their ideology to religious heights. There was a time when communism tried to abolish all religion and take their place as a grand unifier of mankind, and now wokeness is doing the same. TRAs and their handmaidens and dicksuckers have dogma in place of arguments and that's why debating them is pointless: it's either TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN AND TRANS MEN ARE MEN or YOU LITERALLY WANT TO LITERALLY MURDER LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TRANS PERSON ALIVE.

Wokeness is the same as any religion or ideology in its doublethink practices as well.

*Edit/clarification: I didn't use atheistic on purpose.
 
Aggressively non-religious* people often elevate their ideology to religious heights. There was a time when communism tried to abolish all religion and take their place as a grand unifier of mankind, and now wokeness is doing the same. TRAs and their handmaidens and dicksuckers have dogma in place of arguments and that's why debating them is pointless: it's either TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN AND TRANS MEN ARE MEN or YOU LITERALLY WANT TO LITERALLY MURDER LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TRANS PERSON ALIVE.

Wokeness is the same as any religion or ideology in its doublethink practices as well.

*Edit/clarification: I didn't use atheistic on purpose.
i say a lot that americans are "culturally abrahamic" because even the atheist ones, the way they approach ehtics/morals/philosophy is from this uniquely monotheistic viewpoint ("foundation"?). the white ones will come to other countries and even while well-meaning, still implicitly view monotheistic=in charge and polytheistic/animist=oppressed. but really their paradigm (right word?) is the youngest and most simplistic in the entire world.
 
Disagree. Mallory is living Paschal Laugier's Martyrs. Just when the protagonist couldn't be any stupider, or a bigger faggot, she KEEPS. GOING. BACK. IN. THE. HOUSE. even after finding the Happy funtime friendship and tolerance unicorn rainbow camp.

I'm waiting for Lilly the man-face homewrecker to start wearing FAIL-ory's skin...or just discard it, who cares...
Joe's "lesbian visibility day" post with Lily on Instagram was pretty telling as to Mallory's irrelevancy. I know they fancy themselves beyond labels and sexualities, but did Joe not remember he's married to a True and Honest Man? Maybe he was referring to Lily as The Lesbian, but he also made a stink about "trans women who love women" in the caption. Does that make you a lesbian, Joe? Does it really?
 
Joe's "lesbian visibility day" post with Lily on Instagram was pretty telling as to Mallory's irrelevancy. I know they fancy themselves beyond labels and sexualities, but did Joe not remember he's married to a True and Honest Man? Maybe he was referring to Lily as The Lesbian, but he also made a stink about "trans women who love women" in the caption. Does that make you a lesbian, Joe? Does it really?
Also if Lily is a lesbian by virtue of being in a relationship with a True Woman, Grace, then what happened to the totally het side of the polycule, Lily/Mallory? Or are we shedding the fiction that they are at all interested in each other?
 
Also if Lily is a lesbian by virtue of being in a relationship with a True Woman, Grace, then what happened to the totally het side of the polycule, Lily/Mallory? Or are we shedding the fiction that they are at all interested in each other?
I don't think they're interested in specifically each other. Joe's interested in anyone who's willing to validate him, Mal's interested in destroying herself, and Lily's interested in... money? These interests happen to intersect in this throuple, at least for now.
i say a lot that americans are "culturally abrahamic" because even the atheist ones, the way they approach ehtics/morals/philosophy is from this uniquely monotheistic viewpoint ("foundation"?). the white ones will come to other countries and even while well-meaning, still implicitly view monotheistic=in charge and polytheistic/animist=oppressed. but really their paradigm (right word?) is the youngest and most simplistic in the entire world.
I reckon everything can be traced back to Protestantism and its children/branches, American Exceptionalism and Manifest Destiny. Ultra-woke gutmensch (or baizuos) still operate under that paradigm, even if they reject and hate the USA and its real or presumed values. It's kind of the same as judging cultural products from bygone eras by current moral standards, or how some people approach volunteering in third world countries.
 
I was going to bed early, thought I'd check KF for some feelbads before sleep since I haven't really been here since Lowtax blew his brains out, and I've reached page 157 of this saga skipping maybe 20. No idea how it ends, if it ever did, but thought I'd just mention that Mallory kinda looks like Lowtax and somewhere around page 100'ish I went from hoping she wouldn't get a corndog to actually wanting her getting it. This thread has delivered to great satisfaction and can't wait to read the last 50 pages when I wake up in a few hours.

Edit: There we go.
I must have skimmed past the part about the corndogging, doesn't really matter. What matters is that Mallory's brain turned to mush, and all hope is indeed lost. It's that squint she developed. I've seen that squint on people who "took too much" and never really came back, just kept rolling in whatever direction they would tumble afterwards. Forever. Wherever that jaw protrudes, you shall find her body eventually. Joe really did a number on her.

Joe. Jos. I actually ended up feeling bad for this guy. I don't think he's aware.

It's all just horrible.

Delicious.
 
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The Ortberg's might miss Mallory but I bet they're thrilled they no longer have to pretend to tolerate the type of dude who wears this get up to meet his SIL's new baby.
Gotta love how they artlessly cropped the baby's actual mother out of the picture to make it seem like it was theirs. It's almost as devoid of class as that bathrobe Joe has the nerve to call a "dress." If that's a dress, an asscrack is a canyon.
 
I can't believe what a laughable bell-end this is (as seen before). Studying sado-masochism with Joe Lavery at Berkeley in a dirty wifebeater hideous Rick Owens thing that cost a few thousand dollars. Where did he get the money? I just resent this person and the air he breathes. Oooh, Sader-Masoch and Tom of Finland, how edgy! Old hat in the Castro 1978. Parasite on society. Who's really paying for this shit at a public university? Why?

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Gruesome, what a creep. Is a sugar daddy paying for the Rick Owens hideous ensemble Joe gushes over or is it shoplifting? Or is it not Rick Owens and Joe is a lying fantasist? What's so cool and edgy about expensive brand names no one can afford, joe? Your gross friend, does he need to study sado-masochism at Berkeley? I resent that he eats food and has a flushing toilet and honest hard-working people have to work to make cunts like this comfortable while they play-act as being daring rebels. I don't know this asshole but I hate him.

As for Joe's "rebuttal" on Spiked: since forever and ever, the worst thing an author can do is respond to a bad review. Even if you think it sucks and is unfair, you just take your lumps if you're a serious author. Work speaks for itself etc. Not for Joe! His crabby bitch rebuttal was entirely about petty details- wasn't a wig, wrong movie- but he embarrassingly failed to counter the review's point which was YOU ARE A LAUGHABLE BLOKE PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN AND YOU SUCK AT IT SUCK MY DICK. Cheers to Spiked for giving us more material with the stupid-ass rebuttal. They know it's ridiculous.

Joe's "lesbian visibility day" post with Lily on Instagram was pretty telling as to Mallory's irrelevancy. I know they fancy themselves beyond labels and sexualities, but did Joe not remember he's married to a True and Honest Man?
It's shocking how little Joe cares about showing the slightest affection for Mallory. It's a completely sadistic/masochistic relationship and fraud of a marriage. But if Mallory's enough of a stupid bitch to put up with it, let her.
 
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I was going to bed early, thought I'd check KF for some feelbads before sleep since I haven't really been here since Lowtax blew his brains out, and I've reached page 157 of this saga skipping maybe 20. No idea how it ends, if it ever did, but thought I'd just mention that Mallory kinda looks like Lowtax and somewhere around page 100'ish I went from hoping she wouldn't get a corndog to actually wanting her getting it. This thread has delivered to great satisfaction and can't wait to read the last 50 pages when I wake up in a few hours.
This thread is one of the best on KF.


I can't believe what a laughable bell-end this is (as seen before). Studying sado-masochism with Joe Lavery at Berkeley in a dirty wifebeater hideous Rick Owens thing that cost a few thousand dollars. Where did he get the money? I just resent this person and the air he breathes. Oooh, Sader-Masoch and Tom of Finland, how edgy! Old hat in the Castro 1978. Parasite on society. Who's really paying for this shit at a public university? Why?

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Gruesome, what a creep. Is a sugar daddy paying for the Rick Owens hideous ensemble Joe gushes over or is it shoplifting? Or is it not Rick Owens and Joe is a lying fantasist? What's so cool and edgy about expensive brand names no one can afford, joe? Your gross friend, does he need to study sado-masochism at Berkeley? I resent that he eats food and has a flushing toilet and honest hard-working people have to work to make cunts like this comfortable while they play-act as being daring rebels. I don't know this asshole but I hate him.

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Omg, you’re right.


Why are these people all Marxist anyway? Can someone explain to me how high fashion is so popular with these Marxist academics? Is it because it’s not a checked button down and khakis with boat shoes?


Why not thrift store and some scissors to show how non conformist you are? This is crazy to me.
 

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Why are these people all Marxist anyway? Can someone explain to me how high fashion is so popular with these Marxist academics? Is it because it’s not a checked button down and khakis with boat shoes?


Why not thrift store and some scissors to show how non conformist you are? This is crazy to me.
Revolutionary in the streets, decadent bourgeois in the sheets. Same reason why anarchosocialist types tend to write their shitty blogs and "abolish sudent debt, eat the rich" screeching screeds on MacBooks sitting in the comfort of the local Starbucks/their hip university: everyone likes LARPing as a revolutionary but everyone also hates living like one.

TL;DR pure virtue signalling, plain and simple.
 
Revolutionary in the streets, decadent bourgeois in the sheets. Same reason why anarchosocialist types tend to write their shitty blogs and "abolish sudent debt, eat the rich" screeching screeds on MacBooks sitting in the comfort of the local Starbucks/their hip university: everyone likes LARPing as a revolutionary but everyone also hates living like one.

TL;DR pure virtue signalling, plain and simple.
Thank you for this. I’m having one of those annoying lightbulb moments when I’m realizing somehow I have actually believed these people. Even though I’m not in their cult, I believed they literally cared about the environment and the poor and financial equality.

But yes the most obvious explanation is they don’t believe it. They are the equivalent of the stereotypical Republican guy who hates gays but is doing the little tap tap in the bathroom and likes glory holes.

Meanwhile they would trash the Catholic ladies distributing food at the food bank and raising funds for single young moms.


If I vote Republican in the next election it will be because of this garbage. It makes me sick to think of these people at a state university.

Also Harvard.


I swear if we pay off his student loans…. I will explode.
 
This thread is one of the best on KF.




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Omg, you’re right.


Why are these people all Marxist anyway? Can someone explain to me how high fashion is so popular with these Marxist academics? Is it because it’s not a checked button down and khakis with boat shoes?


Why not thrift store and some scissors to show how non conformist you are? This is crazy to me.

My only consolation is knowing that if the communist revolution they keep screeching about ever actually happens, they'll be the first to be either shot or sent off to the gulag as petit bourg reactionaries.
 
My only consolation is knowing that if the communist revolution they keep screeching about ever actually happens, they'll be the first to be either shot or sent off to the gulag as petit bourg reactionaries.
All these commie LARPers are either bourgoisie themselves or even worse lumpenproletariat. One group is the oppressors the other is essentially class traitors - both get the bullet in a proper revolution.
 
Thank you for this. I’m having one of those annoying lightbulb moments when I’m realizing somehow I have actually believed these people. Even though I’m not in their cult, I believed they literally cared about the environment and the poor and financial equality.

But yes the most obvious explanation is they don’t believe it. They are the equivalent of the stereotypical Republican guy who hates gays but is doing the little tap tap in the bathroom and likes glory holes.

Meanwhile they would trash the Catholic ladies distributing food at the food bank and raising funds for single young moms.


If I vote Republican in the next election it will be because of this garbage. It makes me sick to think of these people at a state university.

Also Harvard.


I swear if we pay off his student loans…. I will explode.
Kevin’s pedigree is immaculate: BA from Harvard, with a likely history of elite high school or prep school before that. Graduate studies at Berkeley. Once he graduates — because he will, despite either raging alcoholism, a cocaine addiction, or both — he will have his pick of academic jobs. He will likely settle into a nice six-figure professorship at an elite university in a city and continue to sneer at the bourgeoisie, of which he is a member.

Kevin, with his expensive Derelicte clothes and CBD-oiled beard, is not representative of the vast majority of the academic class, but he is what everyone else is going to see. He’ll be on Twitter chatting all day and publishing books that few people will actually read, but they’ll get a write-up in The New Yorker anyway. He’ll be called a new, fresh voice in queer studies. He’ll do blow off a twink’s ass openly on social media and no one in his department will dare to say anything. Essentially, he’ll be Joe, maybe without the trooning. Maybe.

I became an “academic” because I love to read and write and learn. I also love to teach. I love my colleagues, who are hardworking, brilliant, creative people who had a good idea of what they were getting into, but maybe not how badly the system was ultimately going to fail them. Now, we are a joke and our life’s work is lampooned everywhere, by people on both the extreme right and left, screaming about groomers and wokeism and capitalism and racism and transphobia in diatribes that can be read in less than a minute, but not explained or understood. And people like Kevin continue to become the face of our profession, because everything is a business, everything is about Twitter and algorithms and ratios and outrage.

Also, Kevin doesn’t have any student loans to pay off. He got a free ride for his tuition and is supported financially by the First Anarchist Bank of Mom and Dad.
 
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