Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

Ya, that makes her less womanly.

Ya, that makes her less womanly.
Be quiet, cumshitter; you're not a man, except by the most generous biological interpretations, so your opinions on women are worth even less than your Nonce Agenda. Shouldn't you be fluffing your mom's boyfriend or something, to earn Good Boy Points?
 
-He takes pictures of dude's crotches? I don't know if it was ever determined why, everyone called him gay but I hypothesize that it was to compare dick sizes? That would seem really fucking stupid, but it's exactly this dude's type of stupid.
Homosexual creepshotter @BoxerShorts47 is INNOCENT of any opinions held by Emil Roytapel.
 
He isn't white, he's Filipino. I fully understand not knowing exactly what this guy's deal is because it's all spread out over about the first 150 pages, but:

-Guy endlessly rants about super right-wing politics and white supremacy to better his debate skills or some dumb BS
-He takes pictures of dude's crotches? I don't know if it was ever determined why, everyone called him gay but I hypothesize that it was to compare dick sizes? That would seem really fucking stupid, but it's exactly this dude's type of stupid.
-He's in his early 30s at least
-He's a shut in neet, I believe he lives with his parents
-Turns out he isn't actually white, or at absolute minimum in the lifetime of this thread he has been unwilling to prove he is, and he's been grilled on it. It wouldn't have been identifying information, all he was asked to do was take a picture of his hand next to a piece of paper with the date and time and he'll just ignore anyone who suggests it. I don't pay attention to this thread so idk if he's ever even tried lying about the fact he's not white. He endlessly goes on about white supremacy, but he's never said he's white.
-I'm not sure if it was ever even determined if he lives in the US.
-Eventually the topic of the age of consent comes up, and he's clearly way more passionate about it than anything else

So no, he's almost definitely Filipino. If you think I'm making shit up, then look at that recent /pol/ dwelling Philipino shooter featured on the front page. This is apparently not that uncommon a phenomenon, which is kind of hilarious but also kind of creepy. I guess it's like neurotic white people who hate themselves and never shut up about BLM.

That's why he's online, he literally can't do anything for white supremacy in real life because he's not white, this is all the fantasy.
Although honestly I guess he isn't that different from most white supremacists. They virtually always turn out to be worthless sexually degenerate alcoholics and/or junkies.
We actually have a dox with a little more to go on then "We found a twitter account with Boxershorts47 and it was some gay flip who focuses far too much on cock, therefore it is true"

See for yourself this dox goes on for a little while, but pretty much every post ITT made by @Syntaxion should be about the dox if you want to shortcut your way through the crap during this era of this thread. As an additional bit of funny, a couple pages after this dox came out Boxy initially gave some shitty manifesto excerpt before trying to silently bow out and he refused to really respond directly about this dox, which makes me believe it is legit as he refused to acknowledge or debunk it at all.

He instead deflected to asking Stardust for newds for the 200th time in this thread, a very normal response.
 
Homosexual creepshotter @BoxerShorts47 is INNOCENT of any opinions held by Emil Roytapel.

We don't see WHO is taking those Twitter images, just what they're taking pictures of. It's possible Boxy, or his family, have friends or family overseas. Maybe Boxy spent a vacation there?

We actually have a dox with a little more to go on then "We found a twitter account with Boxershorts47 and it was some gay flip who focuses far too much on cock, therefore it is true"

I still like to think it was his, even as a throwaway account, because the same distinct username, right down to the number 47, is too coincidental.

He instead deflected to asking Stardust for newds for the 200th time in this thread, a very normal response.

He stopped messaging me a while back. Started getting butthurt about stickers, and mean things others said. The most retarded thing Boxy implied was, if only I'd GIVE HIM newds, he'd FINALLY have the blackmail to make the bad stickies and mean words stop.
 
1. It is low IQ misinformation. It's stupid stuff that Sargon or Paul Joseph Watson or /pol/tards said.
2. If by Neo-Cons you mean Imperialists then that is still 100% in style. Look how many people support giving weapons to Ukraine or higher gas prices to stick it to Putin.
3. There is some truth that in US 1 party can only hold the presidency for 8 years but that doesn't mean politics reverses automatically. We need real movements to change people's minds on equal pay or women in the workforce or race-mixing or gay marriage or transgenders. Even on this website, many people support the "nice" traps like Blair White, "Well I don't care if someone transitions as long as they don't make me use their pronouns." This mentality is a sign that people are moving further left, not right.
1. I would argue the diametric opposite. Those grifters double down on how dangerous and permanent this is if it isn't fought and try to build a support base a la "we're fighting to save civilization". This is your opinion too.
2. By Neocons I mean Neocons, lol. Imperialism isn't a Neocon invention. Nor is Imperialism bad like a lot of people like to claim right now.
3. I never claimed that the political cycle = a political trend. The trends I'm talking about have an average life of about 25 years. Some more, some less. Reagan-brand conservatism and laissez-faire attitudes are dying the same way that support for the post-GD Democratic platform died with FDR. Republican post-ACW policies died with Theodore Roosevelt. This might be news to you, but social progress has always been towards the liberal position. Calling a random black man on the street a nigger would have been acceptable 60 years ago. People always move further left with the rare exception when the reactionary right wing comes to power after excessive "progress". Unfortunately for you, legalizing having sex with minors is not on the docket for these people.
There is no chance of a white nationalism or anti feminist counterculture movement in academia because those people would be fired under the civil rights act or similar workplace discrimination laws.
More cope. I specified subversive and covert, not overt and autistic. There is a time to be overt and a time to be covert.

Optics, under Fuentes or Anglin, means lying about the fact that you're a Neo-Nazi or Klansman by saying you're an American Nationalist or Christian Conservative so you don't get banned from social media. That's all it ever was.
The fact is that all ultrareactionary positions are ultraretarded, and have absolutely no use other than as a critique of an established system. People who unironically believe these things are hollow demagogues. Its very rare to see someone with a fringe position be of any real value.

If you're a Neo-Nazi or a Klansman advocating for extreme reform, I better see that you're a perfect specimen of the reform you advocate for. If you are unable to meet your own standards, you are a joke and will not be taken seriously by people. If you're trad, you better exhibit trad characteristics and not act like a faggot zoomer. Or a faggot millennial who foams at the mouth over the age of consent. I see this fact being more than half of the issue why the reactionary right wing can't grow past a certain point - too many fags and degenerates larping as ubermenschen when they would be the ones getting a bullet to the back of their head in the system they advocate for.

From everything you've said so far, my impression is that you're just some center right reactionary who thinks the left has gone a little bit too far this time but is willing to tolerate most leftism and will even defend it in the future (e.g. defending non trad age of consent). You're no different from the other right-wingers like Ted Cruz who defend leftist polices like anti-racism or anti-sexism. You don't have the will to fight and you aren't trying to make society more conservative. You're unhappy but willing to settle for just slowing down the left. Am I mistaken?
Not exactly. I can differentiate between idealism and realism. In my utopia, scum of the earth get hung from streetlamps. I'm a meritocratic elitist, and I will always value an intelligent brown man over a white nigger. Making society more conservative for the benefit of white niggers is a joke to me.

People like this should out themselves at every opportunity. So we need to hear about it, no matter how many horrifying ratings it gets.
If they're outing themselves, I'd rather they get remembered for it until the very important moment when they get a bullet to the back of the head. Them throwing this information out every opportunity does nothing except reinforce the fact that they're still alive, which is unfortunate and should get resolved as soon as possible.
 
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1. I would argue the diametric opposite. Those grifters double down on how dangerous and permanent this is if it isn't fought and try to build a support base a la "we're fighting to save civilization". This is your opinion too.
I'm pretty sure they say, "Haha, the left is eating their own. Go woke; go broke." They don't fight and they lull them into false security.

2. By Neocons I mean Neocons, lol. Imperialism isn't a Neocon invention. Nor is Imperialism bad like a lot of people like to claim right now.
I don't know what "Neocon, lol" means. Neocon means modern day right-wing Imperialist aka war-hawk.

3. I never claimed that the political cycle = a political trend. The trends I'm talking about have an average life of about 25 years. Some more, some less. Reagan-brand conservatism and laissez-faire attitudes are dying the same way that support for the post-GD Democratic platform died with FDR. Republican post-ACW policies died with Theodore Roosevelt. This might be news to you, but social progress has always been towards the liberal position. Calling a random black man on the street a nigger would have been acceptable 60 years ago. People always move further left with the rare exception when the reactionary right wing comes to power after excessive "progress". Unfortunately for you, legalizing having sex with minors is not on the docket for these people.
FDR laid the foundation for American socialism through programs like Social Security. That wasn't simply a great depression policy, it was social engineering and wealth redistribution. These types of economic policies went out of style because of LBJ's great society. The left went full woke and White America didn't want to see their tax money given to black welfare queens. The support didn't end simply because of time but because the Democratic party used these social programs to redistribute money from Whites to Blacks. Likewise once Whites flighted out of the cities because segregation was illegal, the cities became shitholes and White people no longer supported social projects like public transit. These changes were reactions to the left's identity politics.

Reagan conservatism died because it was all dog whistles for white racial grievances. White people who lives through the 50s, 60s and 70s were fed up with identity politics and they thought they could escape by saying "we're colorblind." That worked until ~2012. The problem was the left responded to "colorblind" by branding all these people as racist for not wanting to help black people and hating gays and that allowed them to relaunch their civil rights movement as the social justice movement. This isn't something that happened simply because of time but because of strategic decisions.

People don't always move "left." The left as only existed since 1776 or 1789 or maybe 1830s so they've only been around for 2 or 3 human lifetimes. It's pretty clear the left has hit a dead-end with transgenderism. Normies can't justify allowing transwomen to beat up real women in sports. Anti-discrimination started with slavery and it ends with transgenderism. Once they lose on this issue, it'll snowball into losing on all their other issues since it's all the same ideology of equality and anti-discrimination.

The fact is that all ultrareactionary positions are ultraretarded, and have absolutely no use other than as a critique of an established system. People who unironically believe these things are hollow demagogues. Its very rare to see someone with a fringe position be of any real value.
Democracy was an ultra reactionary position to monarchy. Abolition was an ultra reactionary position to slavery and triggered a massive war. Communism was ultra reactionary too. We've seen massive social changes in the last 240 years (3 human lifetimes) and there is no reason we can't see one again and I think we will given that our society is fundamentally broken.

Also I don't think you're using the term reactionary correct. Reactionary means trying to keep the status quo. Given that I'm fighting against the status quo, I'm not reactionary but proactionary.

If you're a Neo-Nazi or a Klansman advocating for extreme reform, I better see that you're a perfect specimen of the reform you advocate for. If you are unable to meet your own standards, you are a joke and will not be taken seriously by people. If you're trad, you better exhibit trad characteristics and not act like a faggot zoomer. Or a faggot millennial who foams at the mouth over the age of consent. I see this fact being more than half of the issue why the reactionary right wing can't grow past a certain point - too many fags and degenerates larping as ubermenschen when they would be the ones getting a bullet to the back of their head in the system they advocate for.
Strawmans.

Not exactly. I can differentiate between idealism and realism. In my utopia, scum of the earth get hung from streetlamps. I'm a meritocratic elitist, and I will always value an intelligent brown man over a white nigger. Making society more conservative for the benefit of white niggers is a joke to me.
Avoiding the question and virtue signaling.

If they're outing themselves, I'd rather they get remembered for it until the very important moment when they get a bullet to the back of the head. Them throwing this information out every opportunity does nothing except reinforce the fact that they're still alive, which is unfortunate and should get resolved as soon as possible.
More virtue signaling. You're a real tough guy.

Anyways I'm not impressed. Your knowledge of the situation is below mine and you haven't written 1 high IQ take. Sorry but you're mediocre.
 
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I'm pretty sure they say, "Haha, the left is eating their own. Go woke; go broke." They don't fight and they lull them into false security.
Their quips aren't proof of anything. Their entire online presence is based off the fact that they're exposing and philosophically challenging the left.

I don't know what "Neocon, lol" means. Neocon means modern day right-wing Imperialist aka war-hawk.
Neoconservatism is characterized by interventionist foreign policy, non-interventionist economic policy
(which stems from Reagan and his love for Monetarist and Neoclassical economists) with a domestic policy that generally leans security over liberty. Interventionism is just part of their platform. Just because a cursory google search defines them as interventionists first and foremost doesn't mean the rest of their platform doesn't exist.
Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what a Neocon is.

FDR laid the foundation for American socialism through programs like Social Security. That wasn't simply a great depression policy, it was social engineering and wealth redistribution. These types of economic policies went out of style because of LBJ's great society. The left went full woke and White America didn't want to see their tax money given to black welfare queens. The support didn't end simply because of time but because the Democratic party used these social programs to redistribute money from Whites to Blacks. Likewise once Whites flighted out of the cities because segregation was illegal, the cities became shitholes and White people no longer supported social projects like public transit. These changes were reactions to the left's identity politics.

Reagan conservatism died because it was all dog whistles for white racial grievances. White people who lives through the 50s, 60s and 70s were fed up with identity politics and they thought they could escape by saying "we're colorblind." That worked until ~2012. The problem was the left responded to "colorblind" by branding all these people as racist for not wanting to help black people and hating gays and that allowed them to relaunch their civil rights movement as the social justice movement. This isn't something that happened simply because of time but because of strategic decisions.
You seem to think that everything comes back to the boogeyman of anti-huwiteness. Since you're such a fan of pointing out logical fallacies, this entire paragraph is an example of post hoc ergo propter hoc until you can prove otherwise.

People don't always move "left." The left as only existed since 1776 or 1789 or maybe 1830s so they've only been around for 2 or 3 human lifetimes. It's pretty clear the left has hit a dead-end with transgenderism. Normies can't justify allowing transwomen to beat up real women in sports. Anti-discrimination started with slavery and it ends with transgenderism.
The general idea of progress has existed since forever. There's a reason that the Code of Hammurabi was obsolete by Classical Antiquity. You can call it what you want, but I would call that "moving left", even though you claim a left didn't exist at that point. Even if you want to be a pedant fag, the basic Liberal v. Conservative conflict has always existed in society. Maybe you should read some Greek and Roman history and literature.

Democracy was an ultra reactionary position to monarchy. Abolition was an ultra reactionary position to slavery and triggered a massive war. Communism was ultra reactionary too. We've seen massive social changes in the last 240 years (3 human lifetimes) and there is no reason we can't see one again and I think we will given that our society is fundamentally broken.
These are:
Strawmans.
And by the way, please tell me how these are strawmans and not accurate characterizations of the movement. Name one recognizable leader that isn't an example of what I mentioned.

An ultrareactionary policy to Monarchy is Anarchy. An ultrareactionary position to the abolition of slavery is black supremacy. Yes, communism is ultrareactionary too.
I'll concede that these are more personal definitions. Can we not be debatefags and start slinging logical fallacies? It's very gay.

Avoiding the question and virtue signaling.
If you read that back carefully, you'll notice that "Not exactly" is actually in response to something. I conceded part of your characterization.

Anyways I'm not impressed. Your knowledge of the situation is below mine and you haven't written 1 high IQ take. Sorry but you're mediocre.
lmao. I have nothing to prove about my IQ. I'm just curious how the brain of a self-aggrandizing NEET works.

Oh and by the way, thank you for summarizing my entire point.
It's pretty clear the left has hit a dead-end with transgenderism. Normies can't justify allowing transwomen to beat up real women in sports. Anti-discrimination started with slavery and it ends with transgenderism. Once they lose on this issue, it'll snowball into losing on all their other issues since it's all the same ideology of equality and anti-discrimination.
You don't need huwite nationalism to see this downfall. I would argue huwite nationalism undermines this downfall, because you encourage people who trend left to ignore the bullshit in the Leftist platform in favor of challenging the huwite nationalists.
 
@BoxerShorts47 I got bored and decided to draw you. I hope you like it:

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Their quips aren't proof of anything. Their entire online presence is based off the fact that they're exposing and philosophically challenging the left.
This is misleading. Sure, they are complaining about the left but they work equality hard, if not more harder, at gate keeping people who are further right.

Neoconservatism is characterized by interventionist foreign policy, non-interventionist economic policy
(which stems from Reagan and his love for Monetarist and Neoclassical economists) with a domestic policy that generally leans security over liberty. Interventionism is just part of their platform. Just because a cursory google search defines them as interventionists first and foremost doesn't mean the rest of their platform doesn't exist.
Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what a Neocon is.
Midwit confirmed. Interventionist foreign policy is a fancy way of saying Imperialist. You're complicating Neocon because you're dumb.

You seem to think that everything comes back to the boogeyman of anti-huwiteness. Since you're such a fan of pointing out logical fallacies, this entire paragraph is an example of post hoc ergo propter hoc until you can prove otherwise.
It's not a post hoc fallacy if it's actually true. The entire reason the FDR economic left coalition fell apart was because the leftists when woke in the 50s and 60s and by the 80s white people, especially former Southern Dixiecrats, left the Democratic party. Likewise the Reagan coalition fell apart because the left convinced the professional managerial class that they were racist (sinners) for not wanting to help black people.

The general idea of progress has existed since forever. There's a reason that the Code of Hammurabi was obsolete by Classical Antiquity. You can call it what you want, but I would call that "moving left", even though you claim a left didn't exist at that point. Even if you want to be a pedant fag, the basic Liberal v. Conservative conflict has always existed in society. Maybe you should read some Greek and Roman history and literature.
Was the fall of the Roman Empire considered progress? For 1000s of years Democracy was considered evil, even in the age of the US founding fathers, and no one thought implementing Democracy was progress until the 19th or even 20th century. Whig history is dumb reverse rationalization.

Liberal vs. Conservative has not always existed in society. It's just a post modern paradigm and it won't last forever.

You don't need huwite nationalism to see this downfall. I would argue huwite nationalism undermines this downfall, because you encourage people who trend left to ignore the bullshit in the Leftist platform in favor of challenging the huwite nationalists.
If it's okay to discriminate against trans people and deny them equal rights then why it's it okay to discriminate based on race or sex? Quite a few left wing debate bros have mentioned this as a rational for trans rights.

Anyways, you seem pretty dumb and you're clearly a reactionary trying to keep the status quo given that you dislike lowering the Age of Consent or the Ethnostate. I'm not impressed.
 
This is misleading. Sure, they are complaining about the left but they work equality hard, if not more harder, at gate keeping people who are further right.


Midwit confirmed. Interventionist foreign policy is a fancy way of saying Imperialist. You're complicating Neocon because you're dumb.


It's not a post hoc fallacy if it's actually true. The entire reason the FDR economic left coalition fell apart was because the leftists when woke in the 50s and 60s and by the 80s white people, especially former Southern Dixiecrats, left the Democratic party. Likewise the Reagan coalition fell apart because the left convinced the professional managerial class that they were racist (sinners) for not wanting to help black people.


Was the fall of the Roman Empire considered progress? For 1000s of years Democracy was considered evil, even in the age of the US founding fathers, and no one thought implementing Democracy was progress until the 19th or even 20th century. Whig history is dumb reverse rationalization.

Liberal vs. Conservative has not always existed in society. It's just a post modern paradigm and it won't last forever.


If it's okay to discriminate against trans people and deny them equal rights then why it's it okay to discriminate based on race or sex? Quite a few left wing debate bros have mentioned this as a rational for trans rights.

Anyways, you seem pretty dumb and you're clearly a reactionary trying to keep the status quo given that you dislike lowering the Age of Consent or the Ethnostate. I'm not impressed.
Who tf asked, fag
 
Liberal vs. Conservative has not always existed in society.


Yeah, it has. Not under those names, but the process has. You are fucking retarded for not understanding this, it's at the core of societies. This is another reason your politicking fails, Boxy, because you don't grasp even the most basic concepts. Instead, you parrot wignat and pedo talking points, even when they are detrimental to you - like wanting a white ethnostate yet being a GYPSY, a JEW, and SLAVIC.

Your hyper focus on these, despite the lack of benefit, is a clear example of autism. As well as being a faggot.

@ your supporters here, @BoxerShorts47. Two years, 600+ pages, surely if you're high IQ there will be someone, anyone, who will say, " I 100% agree with Boxy!" unironically. Accept the challenge, coward!
 
@BoxerShorts47 you getting your slimy little webbed hands on nudes of anyone won't make me stop calling you a nigger
The only nudes he can actually get are Chris Chan's, God knows how many times he's masturbated to them.

@JizzStainedPanties69 we all know it's a non-zero number

Homosexual creepshotter @BoxerShorts47 is INNOCENT of any opinions held by Emil Roytapel.
The greatest debate over creepboy's fixation on other men's penises is whether he's jealous or gay.

Maybe he's both?
@BoxerShorts47 I got bored and decided to draw you, I hope you like it:

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It's great but I still think it's funny to keep the Sailor Moon theme. He's probably beating off to Sailor Uranus (if I remember correctly) futanari right now.

Last thing. Do you wear this mask to blowjob parties to keep Filipino man jizz out of your eyes, or is it because you're ashamed to show your face to the men you are pleasuring?

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@BoxerShorts47 I should probably clarify here. If the main purpose of women is to reproduce and raise children and she can't do that, what do those women do? Do they enter the workforce like their male compatriots? Do they adopt? Babysit? Realize they are failures as women for not being able to perform their biological duty and eliminate themselves as to not hoard resources? Sure, you say being barren would make them less womanly, but then what place would they have in society?
 
If the main purpose of women is to reproduce and raise children and she can't do that, what do those women do? Realize they are failures as women for not being able to perform their biological duty and eliminate themselves as to not hoard resources?
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With this much confidence and swagger on display, how could this possibly be the incorrect answer?
 
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