YouTube Historians/HistoryTube/PopHistory

[madethistocomment]

Anybody here watch Stefan Milo? He's a archaeologist who makes videos mainly on homonids and early humans up until the iron age, but he also has the odd video focusing on different ancient civilizations and cultures. I quite like him- he's well-spoken and humorous, he's matter-of-fact, his videos are edited quite nicely, he's very good about linking and citing his sources, and he doesn't try to put any sort of weird political spin on his videos. He's just here to talk about cavemen and early farmers and monke and it's great. Also he partners with Ettore Maza, a guy who's pretty well known for his art of prehistoric and ancient peoples, to draw stuff for his videos and it adds a really nice touch to them and helps with visualization. I'd reccomend giving him a watch if this era of human history is up your alley.

Here's a few videos of his that I quite enjoy.

 

[Breadbassket]

Not sure if anyone else has noticed this but Youtube history channel History With Hilbert has gone all in on Russo-Ukrainian War content.

 

[Toolbox]

New vid by whatifalthist yo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2tdlGTqUY&ab_channel=Whatifalthist

At 12:30 he mocks 1900-s scientists for believing that races are inherently different, but he also made an entire section on genes
wtf, is ruby bipolar?
Another thing worth mentioning is that the amount of him mentioning Jordan Peterson is getting dangerously high

Guess I wasn't the only one that found his race comments weird. He seems to admit to believing in inherent physical differences in race but not mental ones, and at the same time believes the argument that half of intelligence and personality is purely dependent on genealogy, while a lot of the rest is molded by your society. But it's race independent, of course.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

Tik made a video that I don't think is true.

Month late, but while I like TIK's videos and I feel he is being trying to be honest and mostly objective, he gets too autistic into the details and overthinks things. Watched the whole video and he got a few things wrong or overthought things, usually the things that went unsourced. I don't remember the SDP being too radical or revolutionary, at this point they had dropped their Marxist roots at this point I thought. Also just because Hitler worked with communists doesn't mean he is one. He is a socialist I agree with TIK on that but being a communist implies he wanted the endgoal of communism which I don't think he wanted, he just liked the order and structure of socialism which the soviet was promoting.

 

[mickey339]

Masaman has some Sirius sized balls talking about race and ethnicity, diving head first into physical characteristics, genetics and indigenous populations in Africa.

His videos includes highlighting both well known and small ethnicities

And his "what happened to [ancient people]"

Are you really trying to base this off of ancient pedophilia

Explain why pederasty isn't a meaningful example of active/passive sexuality

New vid by whatifalthist yo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2tdlGTqUY&ab_channel=Whatifalthist

At 12:30 he mocks 1900-s scientists for believing that races are inherently different, but he also made an entire section on genes
wtf, is ruby bipolar?
Another thing worth mentioning is that the amount of him mentioning Jordan Peterson is getting dangerously high

• "intentions=results"
• "we should listen to what people say not what they do"
• "Purposely misunderstanding people is ok"

Uh, Rudy, stop putting twitter argument strawmen into your videos thank you.

He is also giving off some major "I'm calmer and rationaler than everyone else" vibes
Can't wait to write the intro for his thread!

 

[Toolbox]

Explain why pederasty isn't a meaningful example of active/passive sexuality

Are you really one of those people that believes pedophilia is it's own sexuality? If I am to believe this is what you mean, even if pedophilia wasn't a mental illness, that doesn't lead to different societal based genders being a thing in prehistory because you interpreted a burial site to mean so.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

On the topic of TIK. I found him through his Hitler is a socialist video, and again, I think he is right but he spent 5 hours trying to drill out a long winded argument when there are simpler avenues to go and ways to defend his points, sometimes coming to bad conclusions to prove it when there were simpler and less convoluted explanations in his favor. For example, Hitler allowing businesses to compete isn't anathematic to socialism (Just Marxism) because x socialist (like Proudhon) actually championed the free market. Even when it comes to Marxists, Tito supported a free market system (and unsurprisingly Yugoslavia was one of the most prosperous eastern bloc countries). Socialism, as TIK correctly hammered out many times is a "rationalized and socialized economy" (Even Utopian Socialists defined it as such), and Hitler and other types of socialists simply deemed a market economy "rational" while Marxian Socialists did not. Hitler viewed a "rational" economy one where businesses were free to have a profit motive so long as they compete to benefit the German collective, if they fall outside that purview they are acting "irrational" and "capitalistic." It just so turns out forcing this perceived rationalism of the economy in any quantity (Namely autarky, synchronization, mass welfare, etc) fucks up an economy just like any other socialist economy. He wasn't a communist because he wanted hierarchy and conflict, but he was definitely a socialist. TIK just really overshot the mark trying to explain this.

This is ignoring his more outlandish claims like communism becomes no different from anarcho-capitalism or that anti-semitism is inherently left wing. I get where he comes from, inner autism in me makes me want to make a mountain of sources proving x thing, but the people he's trying to convince don't care about being right, they care about feeling right, which is something that TIK should realistically know given that's a central tenet for fascism:

If only we can give them faith that mountains can be moved, they will accept the illusion that mountains are moveable, and thus an illusion may become reality.

He makes redditors and twitterfags rage though so I love him.

 

[mickey339]

Whatifalthist is streaming right now on pearl

He envisions making a network of people with common interests to make everyone more sociable

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Matthew_DiMarcantonio

Matthew DiMarcantonio (1996 — ) is an American technology entrepreneur funded by a dozen billionaires

Matthew quickly attracted the attention of and was admitted to Y Combinator[1]—the top startup accelerator in the world which produced $400B in startups between 2007 and 2021. Soon after, he was scouted for the most prestigious program for young startup founders, the Thiel Fellowship[2], which granted him $100K.

 

[Breadbassket]

He envisions making a network of people with common interests to make everyone more sociable

So a over glorified hobby forum?

 

[Slap47]

Homophobia?

Masaman has some Sirius sized balls talking about race and ethnicity, diving head first into physical characteristics, genetics and indigenous populations in Africa.

His videos includes highlighting both well known and small ethnicities

And his "what happened to [ancient people]"

Explain why pederasty isn't a meaningful example of active/passive sexuality

• "intentions=results"
• "we should listen to what people say not what they do"
• "Purposely misunderstanding people is ok"

Uh, Rudy, stop putting twitter argument strawmen into your videos thank you.

He is also giving off some major "I'm calmer and rationaler than everyone else" vibes
Can't wait to write the intro for his thread!

Masaman talks about races as though this were Skyrim. Its very bizarre.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

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Masaman talks about races as though this were Skyrim. Its very bizarre.

Could be wrong but the worst of the rampant degeneracy was in the 3rd century crisis, which is why emperors like Aurelian, Diocletian, and Constantine implemented more morally authoritarian legislation which didn't fix the core issue.

The reason Western Rome fell was because it was led by men who had no connection or care for Rome's history and cared for their own short term political gratification. Soldiers were underpaid draftees with no civic or monetary privilege for their service, the economy was exploitative and had no upward mobility thanks to Dicoletian's reforms, the emperor was basically forced to be out of touch and impersonal due to the nature of the Dominate, and diplomats didn't care if they harmed the empire so long as they could spite a neighbor. The empire was simply unmanageable, it was being ran by a bunch of caligulas with a mentally feeble puppet calling himself emperor.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I think it was althistory hub or someone, but they did a video on what if the Nationalists won and I feel it very much understated how much (for the worse) Mao affected China's culture and standing in the world. I really don't know how bad Taiwan under Chiang kai-Shek was, but given where Taiwan is at now compared to China and it seems he didn't intentionally attack and uproot Chinese culture like Mao did. Serpentza did good videos on it, but basically Mao's cultural revolution affected the mindset of a whole generation and made them uncouth, selfish, and disrespectful, and its carried over to all of society. Even as early as the writings of Sun yat-Sen, he criticized the characteristics that plague China nowadays and it seemed Mao made them worse than ever.

 

[Übertroon]

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Masaman talks about races as though this were Skyrim. Its very bizarre.

Rome fell because of a shitty leaders incapable of solving the mass migration crisis, but I'm sure the "woke" historians don't like that take either

 

[Slap47]

I think it was althistory hub or someone, but they did a video on what if the Nationalists won and I feel it very much understated how much (for the worse) Mao affected China's culture and standing in the world. I really don't know how bad Taiwan under Chiang kai-Shek was, but given where Taiwan is at now compared to China and it seems he didn't intentionally attack and uproot Chinese culture like Mao did. Serpentza did good videos on it, but basically Mao's cultural revolution affected the mindset of a whole generation and made them uncouth, selfish, and disrespectful, and its carried over to all of society. Even as early as the writings of Sun yat-Sen, he criticized the characteristics that plague China nowadays and it seemed Mao made them worse than ever.

Mao had insane ideas regarding agriculture and culture, but Chiang was basically a fascist. His Blue Shirts were basically a copy of Italy's BlackShirts and he really liked fascist economics. Shanghai was ultra-capitalist, but everything else was centrally planned by a corrupt clique basically run by his wife's family (that were basically a Christians who horded wealth and propped eachother up).

A blue China would probably also be pretty shitty and I could easily see another famine happening. Sure the USA could airdrop free wheat, but the USA neglecting to help China is what caused Blue China to fall in the first place. Not to mention that culling warlords is much harder when they are stakeholders in your government instead of just an enemy to crush with an army.

 

[Radola Gajda]

YouTube is still trying to make me watch dinofag iceberg video. I didnt because when I saw thumbnail I though it is one those videos. There is this bit of information that can be desinterpreted as faggotry So historical character X is 100% gay . And you are homophobic if you disagree . They are kinda like Ancient Alliens crowd, but faggotry is behind everything instead green men from Mars.


Rome fell in second half of 15 th century to Turks.
But if we are talking about Western Empire. Then it was combination of external and internal factors.
No clear succession system so civil wars were Common. Decay of Imperial systems: quality of army went downhill , economy was collapsing, no social mobility, failure to prevent barbarian hordes from entering empire....
For external factors we have Huns, Germans, Epidemics...
Last western Emperor was puppet. Boy that didnt held any real power and Empire by that point held only Italy.
Anyway we should give rulling elite some credit every time someone come and try to change things he sooner or later ended with knife in the back , Majorianus, Aetius, Aurelianus...
Also sending letters to barbarian kings asking them to save you from unwanted marriage . What could possibly go wrong?

 

[mickey339]

races as though this were Skyrim

good 19th century British anthropologist vibes
the guy we need basically

A blue China would probably also be pretty shitty

Taiwan?

 

[Slap47]

Taiwan?

Took the fall of the dictatorship and the end of their racial caste system for things to not be shit.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

Didn't Chiang decline and ditch the Blue Shirts by the 30s?

Also didn't most of these issues stem from the country being under martial law due to Communists not accepting the 1947 election's results and resuming the civil war? In fact weren't most of the atrocities committed was Chiang playing dirty throughout a bloody civil war in general?

 

[ViolentDiarrhetic]

Metatron is an Italian (or something) that fluently speaks Classical Latin, along with several other languages, and has a shit ton of stuff on ancient and medieval armor, weaponry and warfare. Downside is that a lot of his thumbnails and titles look like cringey clickbait, which reflects poorly on the videos actual quality.

Yeah, his thumbnails were always a big turn off whenever they popped up. His videos are pretty interesting, though.

 

[Mark Knopfler]

Been lurking on the Farms for over a year now, might as well have my first post be about some history autism.

For anyone looking for genuinely solid channels that aren't full of ideological dogshit or half-researched nonsense, I've got a couple recommendations I don't think I've seen mentioned yet, save for some that have only been brought up in passing.

Ancient Americas focuses primarily on the histories of ancient North, South and Meso America, from the arrival of humans on the Continents to first contact with Europeans. Very solid stuff, the vast majority of it has been overlooked by other history channels and none seem to have the expertise in the area this guy does. Only downside is that his voice is kinda annoying.

The Histocrat has quality videos on the Neolithic Revolution, the rise of Sumer, Pre-Roman Britain and the Bronze Age Collapse. He's also got a series on mythological/legendary figures and stories that I haven't watched, but if they're anything like his other videos, they should also be pretty good.

Metatron is an Italian (or something) that fluently speaks Classical Latin, along with several other languages, and has a shit ton of stuff on ancient and medieval armor, weaponry and warfare. Downside is that a lot of his thumbnails and titles look like cringey clickbait, which reflects poorly on the videos actual quality.

Maritime Horrors is a channel dedicated to both famous and obscure seafaring catastrophes, with most focusing on particularly mysterious or brutal shipwrecks. One of his best is on the Franklin Expedition, which I highly recommend.

Fall of Civilizations is one I saw mentioned a few pages ago by @Second Sun, and it's one of the best on Youtube at what it does. The videos themselves can get very long, since they're made directly from a podcast, but they're very high quality and very well researched. The Assyrian, Songhai and Sumerian episodes are particularly good.

Additionally, there are channels like Voices of the Past, History of the Earth, History of the Universe, Epic History TV and Ben G Thomas that put out very solid stuff, with many having already been mentioned here in the thread at one time or another.

Hope these help wash the taste of Cynical Historian and Extra Credits out of your mouths.

Somewhat related to this, there is this polygot Polymathy. His main focus is also Classical Latin but he also knows some Ancient Greek. Most of his videos are good like his analysis of the "Romanes eunt domus" scene in Life of Brian