Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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My favorite Vatnik cope is how Russia is fighting globohomo.
It would be interesting to see more recent figures.
This one is from 2017, still old, but you can see that Russia's HIV lowered a bit and that Ukraine's number tripled.
Still very bad figures.
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I expect at least a trilogy or two about the Ghost of Kyiv
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The Ghost of Kyiv is a collective spirit? I wasn't aware that the USSR had even managed to create communist ghosts.

More seriously, it seems that the left doesn't mind misinformation if it makes for a stirring story. Reminds me a bit of that 'poacher hunter' story from a short while back.
 
they just want Nato off their fucking doorstep once and for all. Their wants effectively start and end there in regards to the globohomo entity.
Nato has always been on their doorstep and always will be. Russia could push the line back to Berlin and nato would still be on their doorstep.
 
we have a guy (on Russian TV?) discussing the option to first plunge Britain into the depths of the sea, followed by turning it into a nuclear desert. Kinda like Chekov's rifle but with Posidon missiles.
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By using them as cannon fodder for 8 years?
Couldn't they just surrender to Ukrainians if they did not wanted to fight? Or were there Russian commissars behind their backs?
This is still based around the first strike plan, which simply isn't feasible. Ukraine offers an advantageous geographical position over the Baltic states and Finland, but a whole Russia-friendly Ukraine would be more valuable. A divided Ukraine is worthless. Especially after the Black Sea fleet got bruised and with limited capabilities for rebuilding.
Still does not mean you should not prepare for it as a matter on national security. Russia-friendly Ukraine past 2014 is an oxymoron.
All the free will in the world will not materialize guns, ammo and heavy equipment, my dude.
If Russia didn't want the war to happen, it wouldn't happen.
Weren't there agreements made for a spacial status for Donbass before this war even started? Why did Ukraine not followed them? That would avoid this war in it's entirety. And how much Russia did send, exactly?
I'm sorry, is this some kind of appeal to morality? If you regret starting a conflict, either push for it to end or look away if you don't want to see it burn.
It's not a moral issue. It is a political one. Simply leaving Donbass to it's fate would be political suicide in Russia. I don't mind this conflict going until Russia annexes Ukraine or Ukraine annexes Russia. They are virtually the same. Remove extreme nationalists from Ukraine and you will have yourself a smaller Russia.
They would anyway.
Don't come at me for denying agency to separatist movements when you're the one proposing this line of reasoning. This "don't upset the baby or he throws a tantrum" attitude actually infantilizes Russia's position.
And Australia not wanting Chines military base in their waters is also infantile? How is not wanting more military bases of hostile power block around you is infantile? Or does the West have monopoly on setting up military bases and everybody should just take it and shut up?
Again, I think Germany does host American nukes but I don't know if there's any other European country that hosts nukes not part of their own domestic nuclear program. Can you actually justify this fear of nukes in Ukrainian territory?
Can you guaranty that they would not be there if it comes down to it? What blocks Americans from stationing them there if Ukraine joins NATO?
This is what the kids would call a "based" take, because at least we can have a good old fashioned sacrifice of the young to satisfy the greed of men in suits. Instead of discussing big babies throwing tantrums.
The only big baby in this i can see is US. While major EU countries tried to solve this problem through diplomacy and not let it go into hot war, US senators found it in themselves to go and give speeches about how they will give Ukraine everything to fight the Russians "over there", whatever it means.
 
we have a guy (on Russian TV?) discussing the option to first plunge Britain into the depths of the sea, followed by turning it into a nuclear desert. Kinda like Chekov's rifle but with Posidon missiles.
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>single nuclear warhead detonated in seawater turning Britain into a nuclear waste for hundreds of years.
God I wish, but sadly this is just russian cope
 
we have a guy (on Russian TV?) discussing the option to first plunge Britain into the depths of the sea, followed by turning it into a nuclear desert. Kinda like Chekov's rifle but with Posidon missiles.
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I'm fully convinced Russia stopped doing actual weapons development somewhere in the late 1970s and they've just been staffing their weapons RnD departments with fan fiction tier writers and whenever they want to show off a new toy they use some left over designs from the 60s.
 
I think a lot of pro-Russia and Russia-curious opinion is simply a reaction to how the most disgusting people on this planet have gone 100% 👏Slava 👏Ugayni👏:
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Most people are aware on some level that Russia is a depressing shithole run by criminals, which is the opposite of based. Howsoever, when Twitter troons, senile pedophile politicians and - may Allah forgive me - journalists are lined up behind an issue, you wouldn't be spiritually and mentally healthy if you didn't take the opposite stance.
 
Couldn't they just surrender to Ukrainians if they did not wanted to fight? Or were there Russian commissars behind their backs?
At this point I assume you're purposefully misinterpreting what I said.
You cannot fight without the means to do so. Russia has provided these means.
Still does not mean you should not prepare for it as a matter on national security. Russia-friendly Ukraine past 2014 is an oxymoron.
And whose fault was that? Again, Russian leadership is dealing with the consequences of their actions. These are self-fulfilling prophecies of their own creation.
Weren't there agreements made for a spacial status for Donbass before this war even started? Why did Ukraine not followed them? That would avoid this war in it's entirety. And how much Russia did send, exactly?
Nobody followed them. Yet you single out Ukraine.
It's not a moral issue. It is a political one. Simply leaving Donbass to it's fate would be political suicide in Russia.
Imagine killing tens of thousands and displacing millions of people because you cannot take the L.
I know you're saying this out of good faith but please realize that your own justifications just progressively make Russia look more and more unhinged.
And Australia not wanting Chines military base in their waters is also infantile?
I did not know that Ukraine resided inside Russian territorial waters.
How is not wanting more military bases of hostile power block around you is infantile?
Ukraine and Georgia demanding Russia to remove its own military bases because Russia is an hostile power would be infantile.
Or does the West have monopoly on setting up military bases and everybody should just take it and shut up?
It pays to have friends.
Can you guaranty that they would not be there if it comes down to it? What blocks Americans from stationing them there if Ukraine joins NATO?
What blocks Russia from stationing troops near Ukraine?
The only big baby in this i can see is US. While major EU countries tried to solve this problem through diplomacy and not let it go into hot war, US senators found it in themselves to go and give speeches about how they will give Ukraine everything to fight the Russians "over there", whatever it means.
Excuse me? What did the EU do? The diplomacy all went to shit when fighting continued and Russia said they didn't have anything to do with Minsk II apart from being a mediator so they could do whatever the fuck they wanted. When Zelensky tried to talk to Russia, they told him to fuck off and talk to the DPR and LPR.
 
The DPR prosecutor's office has charged mercenaries from the UK with a number of serious crimes committed by them. And according to the laws of the Republic, they face the death penalty.

They (mercenaries) are not included in the categories of persons covered by this Convention listed in article 4 of Section I of the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War of August 12, 1949, with Additions and Amendments. Moreover, mercenary activity is recognized as a "military crime" and international bodies prosecute mercenaries.


Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban got himself on the list of "Peacemaker".
He is banned from entering Ukraine.
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A Ukrainian soldier with a Degtyarev machine gun in a city battle.

Servicemen of one of the units of the Russian Armed Forces on the territory of the Azovstal plant.
 
I think a lot of pro-Russia and Russia-curious opinion is simply a reaction to how the most disgusting people on this planet have gone 100% 👏Slava 👏Ugayni👏:
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Most people are aware on some level that Russia is a depressing shithole run by criminals, which is the opposite of based. Howsoever, when Twitter troons, senile pedophile politicians and - may Allah forgive me - journalists are lined up behind an issue, you wouldn't be spiritually and mentally healthy if you didn't take the opposite stance.
Wasn't hard when the rats came out in support for Ukraine day one

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Evacuation from Mariupol.








"They wanted us to dig trenches." An evacuated woman from the territory of the Azovstal plant told about the attitude of the military to civilians
"The men said that we will not dig trenches, there is an open space. Where we will go, we are exhausted, our trousers are hanging. Which of us will dig?" — a civilian shared. The woman also said that 17 children lived with them, one of whom was 2.5 years old.

 
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