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[tehpope]

That whole "American liberalism is right of center" is an old trope that doesn't even make sense anymore. NOTHING is to the left of the American left on social issues. When you're sucking "girl-dick" because you're afraid of being called troonphobic and saying 2+2=5, there's no space to your left.

Horseshoe theory. You go so left you end up back on the right.

 

[LurkTrawl]

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I don't know what's more interesting, the fact that they're in such a blind pants-shitting panic that they're making a Ministry of Truth, or the fact that they're in such a blind pants-shitting panic over Musk buying Twitter that they've thrown any and all illusions of giving a shit about the people and actual democracy to the gutter in doing it.

The reason they're freaking out, if anyone hasn't caught on yet, is that they'll no longer have a false majority with progressives that they can point at to justify a lot of their more loathsome bullshit. Without the ability to point at Twitter and say that "yes, our policies are actually popular you dumbass" they lose a lot of their justification for shit like CRT.

If anyone remembers what Operation Mockingbird is, and for those who don't go look it up, Twitter was effectively OM but for the internet. If you've ever wondered why the progressive left was boosted and given (artificially) the reigns of the public discourse after the religious right of yesteryear, it's because while politicians are generally terminal victims of the Dunning Kreuger effect, they understand that making a false majority out of authoritarians - whether it be right or leftward - is beneficial to their interests as authoritarians are almost entirely idiots who operate on pure will-to-power kinds of thinking. I.E.: "I don't care about the Patriot Act because I won't be affected, and it's use as a tool against my political enemies is worth more than the possibility of it being used on myself. After all, we're in power right now and we need to stay in power" which leads, inevitably to "Why would you be against the Patriot Act? What do you have to hide? Are you a terrorist sympathizer?" as an example of the shitty justifications used by such groups when they perceive themselves as being given the mandate to crush their political foes.

If anyone also remembers how the RR ended up failing, it's simple: they became so utterly fucking unpopular that the false consensus was no longer believable. It took the U.S. government an entire decade with change to gin up another authoritarian group of knuckle-dragging useful idiots that would march in lockstep for their benefit, it's not exactly something you can just swap like shoes. Them losing Twitter and hopefully, the illusion of progressivism being popular, is going to be an unbelievably massive blow not only to their control over the narrative but their ability to justify their own shitty, destructive policies. This, is the reason for this alarmist panic and rhetoric.

And I couldn't be happier.

Horseshoe theory. You go so left you end up back on the right.

I apologize for disliking this but it gets my goat as bad as the logic that we need a multi-party system. It's an illogical take on a phenomenon that's capable of being understood with logic equally simple: it's not that "you go so left you end up back on the right", it's that there's only so many ways in which you can manifest political power for varying reasons, and as such you end up with similar solutions for very disparate reasons.

Take censorship for example. For those on the right who view it as a possible positive force, the reasoning is to stop "degeneracy" and promote what they feel are positive social values. For those on the left, who view it as a possible force for good, the reasoning is typically to protect the public from "bigotry" and to promote their political values. Similar endpoint, but clearly different reasoning behind the action. It doesn't suddenly make the right-leaning guy a leftie nor vice versa.

Say two guys make a cauliflower crust pizza. One guy's doing it for keto, and one is doing it because dough fucks up his IBS or Crohn's or what have you. Both people made pizzas but the guy doing a keto diet doesn't suddenly develop a digestive issue, if you get my gist.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Horseshoe theory. You go so left you end up back on the right.

I like to keep it simple with what i was taught about the political spectrum in my youth. Right means less government left means more government. People want less government but like getting dicked down by big brother for some reason or just seek it because they want conflict because boredom
Far right is Anarchism while far left is Communism (Probably outdated since there are probably new concepts of control and going full Diogenes)

From what i'm seeing we're turning into a Technocracy. A globohomo one to be exact except the experts are anything but.

Itz be Complicated n Sheeiiit Nyugah

 

[ScatmansWorld]

I like to keep it simple with what i was taught about the political spectrum in my youth. Right means less government left means more government.

It's somewhat fruitless to try and boil down politics like this in the first place, but if we're talking specifically the modern American right and left, then you're correct. The right tends to lean more libertarian and the left leans more authoritarian, but to me, horseshoe theory just means "The more politically extreme you become, the more likely you are to adopt authoritarian practices, regardless of your principles." Libertarians/ancoms/ancaps are the exception to this of course.

 

[A valid name]

He’s ineligible. Born in south africa

Didn't stop Obama

 

[Random Internet Person]

Didn't stop Obama

Obama was born in Hawaii.

 

[The Ugly One]

I like to keep it simple with what i was taught about the political spectrum in my youth. Right means less government left means more government. People want less government but like getting dicked down by big brother for some reason or just seek it because they want conflict because boredom

People like being able to do what they want, but they don't like dealing with the consequences of their actions or people that annoy them doing what they want. The latter two things are why big government is popular.

 

[AnOminous]

It's an illogical take on a phenomenon that's capable of being understood with logic equally simple: it's not that "you go so left you end up back on the right", it's that there's only so many ways in which you can manifest political power for varying reasons, and as such you end up with similar solutions for very disparate reasons.

The more extreme your views, and the less you can create the illusion that they're actually popular, the more force you realize you would have to exert to coerce the populace into going along with your extremely unpopular ideas. Therefore, extremism tends towards authoritarianism no matter what direction it is. Even anarchists develop authoritarian tendencies when they develop orthodoxies and already believe in the use of force against those who oppose them.

 

[Josterman]

I don't know what's more interesting, the fact that they're in such a blind pants-shitting panic that they're making a Ministry of Truth, or the fact that they're in such a blind pants-shitting panic over Musk buying Twitter that they've thrown any and all illusions of giving a shit about the people and actual democracy to the gutter in doing it.

The reason they're freaking out, if anyone hasn't caught on yet, is that they'll no longer have a false majority with progressives that they can point at to justify a lot of their more loathsome bullshit. Without the ability to point at Twitter and say that "yes, our policies are actually popular you dumbass" they lose a lot of their justification for shit like CRT.

If anyone remembers what Operation Mockingbird is, and for those who don't go look it up, Twitter was effectively OM but for the internet. If you've ever wondered why the progressive left was boosted and given (artificially) the reigns of the public discourse after the religious right of yesteryear, it's because while politicians are generally terminal victims of the Dunning Kreuger effect, they understand that making a false majority out of authoritarians - whether it be right or leftward - is beneficial to their interests as authoritarians are almost entirely idiots who operate on pure will-to-power kinds of thinking. I.E.: "I don't care about the Patriot Act because I won't be affected, and it's use as a tool against my political enemies is worth more than the possibility of it being used on myself. After all, we're in power right now and we need to stay in power" which leads, inevitably to "Why would you be against the Patriot Act? What do you have to hide? Are you a terrorist sympathizer?" as an example of the shitty justifications used by such groups when they perceive themselves as being given the mandate to crush their political foes.

If anyone also remembers how the RR ended up failing, it's simple: they became so utterly fucking unpopular that the false consensus was no longer believable. It took the U.S. government an entire decade with change to gin up another authoritarian group of knuckle-dragging useful idiots that would march in lockstep for their benefit, it's not exactly something you can just swap like shoes. Them losing Twitter and hopefully, the illusion of progressivism being popular, is going to be an unbelievably massive blow not only to their control over the narrative but their ability to justify their own shitty, destructive policies. This, is the reason for this alarmist panic and rhetoric.

And I couldn't be happier.

I apologize for disliking this but it gets my goat as bad as the logic that we need a multi-party system. It's an illogical take on a phenomenon that's capable of being understood with logic equally simple: it's not that "you go so left you end up back on the right", it's that there's only so many ways in which you can manifest political power for varying reasons, and as such you end up with similar solutions for very disparate reasons.

Take censorship for example. For those on the right who view it as a possible positive force, the reasoning is to stop "degeneracy" and promote what they feel are positive social values. For those on the left, who view it as a possible force for good, the reasoning is typically to protect the public from "bigotry" and to promote their political values. Similar endpoint, but clearly different reasoning behind the action. It doesn't suddenly make the right-leaning guy a leftie nor vice versa.

Say two guys make a cauliflower crust pizza. One guy's doing it for keto, and one is doing it because dough fucks up his IBS or Crohn's or what have you. Both people made pizzas but the guy doing a keto diet doesn't suddenly develop a digestive issue, if you get my gist.

The American people are done with hacks at cnn and the internet has awoken people to the lies of them they try to push back with their unhinged mob but it failed

 

[LurkTrawl]

The more extreme your views, and the less you can create the illusion that they're actually popular, the more force you realize you would have to exert to coerce the populace into going along with your extremely unpopular ideas. Therefore, extremism tends towards authoritarianism no matter what direction it is. Even anarchists develop authoritarian tendencies when they develop orthodoxies and already believe in the use of force against those who oppose them.

Right, but the affiliations underlying the authoritarianism remain the same was my main point. An authoritarian communist != an authoritarian NatSoc or whatever simply because they're taking/wanting to take the same or similar actions.

 

[A valid name]

Obama was born in Hawaii.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[Chinggis Khan]

That whole "American liberalism is right of center" is an old trope that doesn't even make sense anymore. NOTHING is to the left of the American left on social issues. When you're sucking "girl-dick" because you're afraid of being called troonphobic and saying 2+2=5, there's no space to your left.

They always fall back on economic reductionist arguments whenever they are called out. Meanwhile they hardly ever try to push an economic agenda, and if they do it’s a few token crumbs prior to an election.

Minimum wage increases, affordable healthcare, even college debt forgiveness only gets half hearted support, sometimes not at all. Meanwhile look at the left get enraged by one single state banning teaching of homosexuality until the age of 8 years old. Compare that to their outrage over their own party failing to increase the minimum wage over 7.50 an hour.

The left has essentially divorced themselves from economics.

 

[Josterman]

Compium from bill Palmer on bill maher

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/bill-maher-has-completely-jumped-the-shark-2/45078/

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Obama was born in Hawaii.

Not according to General Admiral Aladeen.

 

[deepFriedBaka]

He should buy Friendster Juno and Prodigy just to see people complain how he's eliminating free speech and needs to be stopped for taking over the dead corpses of sites that haven't mattered since 1995. Imagine the horror from him buying Neopets and Club Penguin

Neopets is a zombie of its former self and Club Penguin was unceremoniously executed by Disney overlords four years ago. Whatever worth either of them have is long gone.

Although it would probably be funny, it's not nearly as funny as this turbo-salt mine.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

He should buy Friendster Juno and Prodigy just to see people complain how he's eliminating free speech and needs to be stopped for taking over the dead corpses of sites that haven't mattered since 1995. Imagine the horror from him buying Neopets and Club Penguin

Time to bring Netscape back to its glory like it was 1998.

 

[thx1138]

Time to bring Netscape back to its glory like it was 1998.

Y'all are cute. Time to bring back QuantumLink! Free software with every modem purchase!

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Time to bring Netscape back to its glory like it was 1998.

Y'all are cute. Time to bring back QuantumLink! Free software with every modem purchase!

Woah man! Don't go biting off more than you can chew!

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

 

[ducktales4gameboy]

He should buy Friendster Juno and Prodigy just to see people complain how he's eliminating free speech and needs to be stopped for taking over the dead corpses of sites that haven't mattered since 1995. Imagine the horror from him buying Neopets and Club Penguin

This but unironically. We've seen what the terminally online do when confronted with an alternate social network like gab/truth and how much they flip out at the very existence of an alternate where they have no power, just imagine what they'd do if a network they'd abandoned was revived and became popular again. Even if it was just bought and open-sourced we'd get a ton of seething.