Nerdette: 23:34:
Like the whole movement was, to me, was something I actually believed in at one time until I started seeing the fringes on the edge. Like, you can only make so many videos calling Vita Ayala retarded you can only do so many of these things. When you're just repeating your points over and over and over and I'm just like, you're, you've become what you hate it and that's where my real issue always came from. You've become exactly like the far left on the on the other side. And I was like-
Just Some Guy: 24:55
They didn't become that, they were always that.
Nerdette: 24:58
I didn't see it
Just Some Guy: 24:59
I mentioned this when this this whole thing first started, I said "This probably going to happen, it's going to fall out just like Gamergate. It's gonna play out same way." And it pretty much has. You know, the people who were the biggest kind of had their fall, everybody went their own separate ways. And there are a lot of people who got very attached to certain folks. And when that didn't play out the way they wanted, they lost their minds. They were trying to pull me into this nonsense with EVS years ago over his comic book, because of the pages not being printed on regular comic book paper. It was printed on magazine paper, and there was a fallout over that. And then there was, there were issues over like, who owns the name "Comicsgate"?. There was issues over-
Nerdette: 25:43
Oh, um, isn't it getting sued for it? Somebody got served papers.
Just Some Guy: 25:48
I haven't followed that, because I just don't care enough.
Liana Kerzner: 25:50
Yeah.
Just Some Guy: 25:51
But then there was, there was an issue over like people like Engletine had been talking about comics for a while, and then people like EVS coming in, and sort of turned it into make comic books. And that back and forth.
Nerdette: 26:03
Engletine's awesome. Yeah, we disagree on so much. And he's still awesome.
Just Some Guy: 26:08
Yeah he's a cool guy, and he took the brunt of all of that, because him and, I think it was him and who else was it? I forget who the other person was on the chat with him. But it was EVS and Jon Malin. And they were, they had the debate and the debate-
Nerdette: 26:25
Unranked Chevron, was that his name?
Just Some Guy: 26:28
Yeah, I think so. And it just devolved into them yelling at the other two, "Well, we're making comic books and you're not doing anything." It's like, okay, that's not how that works. But that's what it has sort of became. And I've never been particularly interested in that kind of back and forth. So I just didn't get involved in any of that nonsense, and that seems to have been one of the reasons why people have been annoyed with me for years is because I wouldn't get into their internet beef. So they've been trying to find a thing to use to like drag me into their shit. And this shit over the Don't Say Gay bill was sort of their avenue. And then I didn't respond in the way that they want it. And that made them mad. I'm like, "Well, too bad. As I don't take you seriously." I'm an 80s baby. I'm a 90s baby if all you're gonna do is say mean things about me, I got newsflash for you: I don't fucking care. You're gonna have to up your game baby. You're gonna have to like, I don't know, threaten to dox me to actually get me worried and-
