Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

He claims he can't tolerate anyone else being in his room at all

@Kate Farms Shill I think I have this. Please send asspats. You can leave them in the hall outside my door.

P.S. I like that what's her nuts Chelsea up there has the "content warning" on the video itself. Isn't it supposed to be posted before so that special snowflakes can protect their delicate constitutions? I don't understand the point of having a disclaimer saying the content is upsetting on the content itself. Then again, I don't really understand anything these people do, so...

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I wanted to buy a tincture and I found a company is having a sweepstakes "for chronic lyme awareness".

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[Online Fossil]

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I was watching a trailer for a movie at Hot Docs, a big documentary festival today and the next recommended video was a trailer at the same festival for a chronic Lyme documentary. It drives me crazy that big media outlets continue to give these people legitimacy.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

I think there is some evidence that ME/CFS is a real and disabling condition. Post-viral complications like severe chronic fatigue are a real and recognized occurrence. There have been cases of patients with ME/CFS having physical damage in their brain or spinal cord. However, most patients have a different presentation with no identifiable cause, and it's a clinical diagnosis.

It seems exactly like the Ehlers-Danlos epidemic in munchies. A condition that is usually mildly to moderately disabling, with fairly easy treatments like lifestyle changes and physical therapy, and diagnostic criteria that are lax enough for certain people without the condition to get a diagnosis. People then equate these common cases to the most severe cases - comparing hypermobile EDS (the usual cases) to classical EDS, where joint dislocations are actually a major concern, or vascular EDS where your arteries could spontaneously rupture.
There are physicians and patients who believe most cases of hEDS are different from the other (genetically provable) types of EDS; I believe ME/CFS is most likely the same. There are seriously disabled patients, but they're overshadowed by everyone else who receives it as a wastebasket diagnosis. That majority is actually causing harm by skewing the data in any research about ME/CFS, and preventing the seriously disabled patients from getting closer to a cure or even just better scientifically provable information.

Saying ME/CFS is a potentially deadly condition is misinformation and fear-mongering at best. All of the deaths "caused by ME/CFS" that I read about were cases of ME/CFS patients who died from something like an infection, undiagnosed epilepsy, or renal failure. I am not a medical professional by any means, but there's nothing I can find that says ME/CFS alone can kill you.

Anyway. I thought about it for a while, and I can actually put into words why the ME/CFS island bothered me so much. Spoilered for unhinged sperging about Animal Crossing.

Spoiler: ACNH sperging

Animal Crossing is a fun and relaxing game. It's targeted toward children, but can be enjoyed by anyone. Especially with the pandemic and lockdown, the latest release in the franchise (Animal Crossing: New Horizons) provided an amazing distraction for a huge community of players. Videos making tours of islands (like the one I linked originally) are very popular, so I'm going to link a bunch of them.
People are insanely creative with their island design. One of the most popular themes is cottagecore, a cute and nature-themed aesthetic. Another popular theme is making cities. However, some super talented and creative people choose to make horror-themed islands, a psychedelic wonderland, or an interactive murder mystery. Well-decorated islands can be simple or extremely intricate, but either way you can tell the creator put forth effort and creativity.

An island's "theme" is just an aesthetic, a guide for decorating. It's meant to be enjoyable somehow to the creator and to anyone who visits the island. Turning an illness into an aesthetic is disgusting. Even when it's done in the name of "activism" it comes across as performative bullshit, like you're just waiting to be praised for how great you are. It's a grab for attention. Lisa, the creator of the ME/CFS island, is turning a serious disability* into a commodity. She presented it as an attraction for others to enjoy.
*yeah I know, just assume ME/CFS is actually serious since she thinks it is
There is nothing glamorous, attractive, or enjoyable about being disabled. Pretending otherwise by presenting it as an aesthetic is dishonest and creates a negative image of the entire disabled population.
She turned a debilitating symptom (brain fog) into a fun maze. There's a fun scavenger hunt. Trying to "raise awareness" by making a disability into a fun activity is kind of disgusting.
Lisa made a romanticized version of a disability and presented it as the truth in the name of awareness. She portrays ME/CFS patients as poor lonely victim-people, locked away in their houses and unable to enjoy anything or interact with anyone, suffering and dying! They can't drive, they can't enjoy any hobbies, they're bedbound and missing from the world. She's playing into the misinformation and fear-mongering with her graveyard dedicated to ME/CFS patients who did not die from ME/CFS.

TLDR:
Presenting ME/CFS (which she states is a serious disability) as an aesthetic is disgusting for a number of reasons. It's disingenuous, it's romanticizing disability and promoting misinformation and worst-case scenarios as universal truth, and it's a pathetic grab for attention and validation that Lisa (the creator of the island) is indeed suffering so severely.

I decided to check the comments of the video to see if anyone else felt even slightly similar. Instead, it's... probably exactly what you would expect if you're a regular in this thread.

Spoiler: Dumb comments

Witness the cult of "nobody believes me" leading to blind support, crying out "I believe you uwu" to a total stranger!


Someone who knows better than all those doctors and thinks that the youtube comment section is an appropriate place for this? Maybe a munchie, definitely kind of unhinged.


"Chronically Chic" has been told she isn't really sick and can overcome it, but claims gaslighting instead. Classic munchie behavior.




I included Lex's comment because her dad is legitimately disabled (amputee, completely wheelchair-bound) and does not receive SSDI. Meanwhile, people like Crossing Dragon here have a "probably" diagnosis of a clinical condition, and has been living off his parents' money while wasting government time for five fucking years. This is what munchies do.


Inspiring the youth! ...to make their illnesses into an aesthetic. This "awareness" campaign is literally breeding munchies.

 

[Cold Waffle]

A brief intermission to share my personal munch's jOuRnEy with EDS. Much syndrome very tired. Genetic testing. It is done in a lab...in case you never took high school bio.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

ME/CFS is one of those illnesses where the biggest difference between the fakers and the ones who actually have it is their motivation to improve their quality of life. This could be said for most chronic illnesses though. You can see this more with something that presents physically like psoriasis, there's no mistaking that.

A munchie does not want help. A doctor's best diagnosis tool and treatment plans are drawn from the patient's observations. Someone who is very much afflicted will begin to find patterns. They will be able to accurately paint a picture for their providers of what they've been through, and ultimately what works and what doesn't work.

A munchie is not looking for these patterns because they are more focused on what they're experiencing versus what triggers it. They embellish their own suffering because it's like a dopamine hit to recognize it. They won't recall details that could help treat them and if they do they won't think to tell their doctors. They're focused on the pain, the experience.

Go back and watch videos of munchie episodes. They rarely ever talk about the event that riggers it, they hype up that something is happening and that they're helpless. They brush over what they were doing leading up to that and focus solely on their experience being ill.

Sometimes people with chronic illness fall into depression and that contributes to their lack of desire to find a treatment. But anyone who isn't faking or at the very least isn't milking their situation will at least make effort towards freeing themselves.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I have the “can’t reply” glitch going on right now but yeah, that’s basically what I was trying to articulate in smarter words. I think there are people severely disabled by a condition we don’t exactly know the nature of. I also think the people going on television shows, documentaries, and social or mainstream media awareness campaigns do not have whatever that is.

There’s a dude who (allegedly) died of CFS trying to adhere to a graded exercise program. He could have had a dozen other weird things going catastrophically wrong in his body that they missed when they slapped him with that label. Hypokalemic periodic paralysis is one of the alternative explanations i’ve heard for what happened to him. If he had that and they misdiagnosed it as CFS/told him he needed to exercise more then yeah, that would explain the sudden collapse and death. His blood potassium level would have crashed in response to sudden vigorous exercise. Or there’s all those other weird metabolic disorders that we never had a name for until the last like 20 years that are caused by some congenital inability to properly metabolize an enzyme you’ve never heard of and he might have had one of those. point is i don’t think dude died because his CFS flared after the gym but the truthers will twist and writhe and scream about him if you even suggest going for a walk might help improve their symptoms. yeah if you actually have whatever spooky post-infection thing causes real CFS you’ll feel like trash no matter how many walks you go on. If you have depression and are deconditioned you could notice a marked improvement in your stamina and mood and that’s why you don’t even want to try.

 

[disco_chocobo]

I don't know why i can't reply to certain comments. I must be having the same glitch as KFS. But something that is really frustrating is that EDS including hEDS has specific diagnostic criteria. It's not a "catch all" diagnosis. You have to have a lot of other symptoms and health problems to be diagnosed even with the clinical diagnosis. If you go to a geneticist to be evaluated the appointment typically takes like 30 minutes and they go over every body system. They will often take measurements of your body because there's other signs that cannot be faked like having a longer wingspan than height, having long fingers, etc

I don't think it's that the clinical exam, when done by a geneticist, is "too lax." I think what's happening is people are straight up lying about having a diagnosis in the first place. Maybe some are going to a GP who knows fuck all and is willing to diagnose them even though it should really be done by a geneticist. Then there's the naturopaths and other quacks who are just willing to take money in exchange for a diagnosis.

I can always spot the fakers in EDS fb groups because they ask questions like "What symptoms should i tell my doctor?" "Which braces do I need?" "Which wheelchair should I get?" "What medications should I ask my doctor about?" People who really have EDS never need to ask these questions. They also get big mad if you suggest going to a PT and always have excuses.

And I love seeing the excuses people come up with for not being properly diagnosed. My favorite so far is "I have too many symptoms for doctors to take me seriously!"

 

[Noah Boddy]

Looks like Paige got sepsis...again. Doctors aren't going to do anything but pain relief, so it may finally be the end.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

Looks like Paige got sepsis...again. Doctors aren't going to do anything but pain relief, so it may finally be the end.
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Sepsis count is what now?

 

[GHTD]

I have a question about munchies. Why the fuck do they always claim to have EDS? I didn't know what the fuck it was even until now and it doesn't seem like something that would get these people satisfaction. I mean, it's like saying you have a more advanced form of arthritis, something that a lot of people actually have.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

please tell me Paige’s surgery for pain relief is another amputation, I have been a good shill and I do not ask for much.

I have a question about munchies. Why the fuck do they always claim to have EDS? I didn't know what the fuck it was even until now and it doesn't seem like something that would get these people satisfaction. I mean, it's like saying you have a more advanced form of arthritis, something that a lot of people actually have.

because the hyper mobility subtype has no known gene mutation and is diagnosed on clinical signs and patient history, has comorbs* that also don’t have definitive diagnostic tests (or the ones that exist are easy to sabotage) and because munchie see, munchie do. Hypermobility is common, the tilt table can be foiled by starving and dehydrating yourself, the gastric emptying study can be thrown off with OTC medications, and MCAS is a “fuck if we know” diagnosis that no one can even agree on what constitutes a positive test.

*i don’t even know if all these things are really comorbid because munchies skew shit so much but for convenience sake let’s say they are.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

CFS is kind of a problematic diagnosis, I think people are right to be skeptical. It's used in countries with universal healthcare as an excuse to not examine you properly for real diseases. That's why it's so popular in the UK. Giving you CBT and encouraging low impact, graded exercise is a lot cheaper than trying to narrow down what autoimmune disease you have, for instance.
I was diagnosed with CFS by le cuckistan health system. Turns out my CRP is in the 30s so it's probably autoimmune. Thanks for not checking for literal yrs until I asked for that specific test.
There's even a public clinic in my province where they diagnose people with CFS, fibro and MCS. I've been in "educational" programs for people with MCS and CFS there and the stereotype that they are middle class neurotic white women is true. One of them quit being a teacher bc there was mold in the building. I was the only teen. The MCAS and EDS thing had not caught on there yet, last time I was there.
You can ask me more about that mental health clinic if you want. Top class neurotics. They all needed a damn psychiatrist and (good) therapist (which you will never get with the public healthcare system, only shitty Pakis).
I believe someone if they say they have chronic fatigue though bc a million things can cause it, both mental health, lifestyle and disorder related.

Looks like Paige got sepsis...again. Doctors aren't going to do anything but pain relief, so it may finally be the end.
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Not pictured: using the privacy of that shower to rub more shit in her wounds.

 

[ilikel8nighttv]

CFS is kind of a problematic diagnosis, I think people are right to be skeptical. It's used in countries with universal healthcare as an excuse to not examine you properly for real diseases.....

No one cares. Have you never read this forum before?

 

[Protozoangod]

please tell me Paige’s surgery for pain relief is another amputation, I have been a good shill and I do not ask for much.

Oh man, I’m gonna laugh my fuckin’ ass off if she’s in for a hip disarticulation. Fuck around and find out, stupid fucking munchie bitch.

 

[howmanypizzas69]

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She wants to get her Masters degree but cannot post a coherent message on facebook


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Victoria is impressively ugly. She has to be the ugliest munchie, most of the other ones would be average-ish or even nice looking if they made an effort but this bitch…she looks like a microcephalic baby with PCOS

 

[SmeltItDeltIt]

I finally went and caught up on Paige and holy shit how is this person even alive? She and Kelly are living proof of how resilient the human body is.

At some point you wish that the medical system could just throw their hands up in the air after wasting countless hours and taxpayer funds with dumpster fires like this.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

No one cares. Have you never read this forum before?

I've been here since the thread started, so yes. There have been many concerns CFS could obscure a real diagnosis. I don't think it's PLing to explain something about how a health system works. Things they do could help or harm (feed into delusion/mental illness), I've been using this site since 2015, this shit about "muh newfags" has always been gay. It was p cringe when they added join dates right under your ava.

 

[OK_Cogitator]

Oh man, I’m gonna laugh my fuckin’ ass off if she’s in for a hip disarticulation. Fuck around and find out, stupid fucking munchie bitch.

I don't think they'd grant it to her at this point. She'd have to buy it. I know I'd pass on wasting six hours of my Monday morning on Zoidberg and use my time on a patient that's, you know, actually fucking compliant.

I feel sorry for all the housekeeping all the way to board of reagents at her hospitals down there in Middle Earth that have had the displeasure of whirling around in her narcissism/fecal matter tornado.

Victoria is impressively ugly. She has to be the ugliest munchie, most of the other ones would be average-ish or even nice looking if they made an effort but this bitch…she looks like a microcephalic baby with PCOS

For the last year I've been calling her "unfortunate" looking. It seems to have a special gravitas I think is needed when describing...her.

 

[SashaBastion]

I’m an ignorant fucker and don’t know shit about anything but can someone enlighten me on something. Paige claims the posts written by her mom are irrelevant because her mom has BPD. Does BPD cause the sufferer to fabricate shit up about their daughters? Please, someone make sense of this for me.