SCOTUS to Overturn Roe V Wade according to draft opinion obtained by Politico - And here we go

Status
Not open for further replies.
Article
Archive

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

MOST READ​

trump-legal-troubles-27892.jpg
  1. Trumpworld braces for ‘a couple of ugly nights’ in May

  2. Arizona GOP Senate frontrunner loses lead amid air assault

  3. Trevor Noah’s best jokes at the WHCD

  4. Judge upholds Jan. 6 committee subpoena for RNC records

  5. The GOP senator who faulted Trump for Jan. 6 — and lived to tell about it


Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
Shooting others isn't control over your bodily autonomy, lol. You religious zealots only care about a fetus, but once it's a baby you don't care about it. You don't care about the conditions it grows up in. You don't care if the mother is poor and can't afford to raise a child. You just like to virtue signal about MAH FETUS like a good little evangelical. if you actually cared about babies as much as you pretended to, you'd be trying to expand welfare for poor mothers instead of eliminating it. You'd be all for expanding healthcare for pregnant women and single mothers, instead you guys tardrage about those as SOCIALISM.

It's easy for you to care about a fetus because it requires no effort on your part. You don't do the same as babies because you and your fellow GOPers would have to then admit you want some socialism and your billionaire overlords may have to pay a bit more taxes.
lol ripping all those reddit arguments are we?

Do you really think all the people here disagreeing with you are evangelicals? On Kiwifarms? Dude, that's retarded. People just don't like killing babies. That doesn't preclude or include any other policies other than not wanting to kill babies. Every sentence you append with another reddit-gleaned stereotype of what an anti-baby killing person is like just makes you sound more unhinged.
 
but the Pro-Choice have people who glorify the act and see it as empowering. Killing one of the most vulnerable things is somehow empowering?

It's fucking ghoulish how much pleasure they take in their abortion and is endorsed up by the media.

Yeah i might post edgy remarks on a crop growers community board when a migrant boat sinks but i don't expect society at large to tell me I'm awesome and pat me on the back for it. I'm being a edge lord.

But michele wolf hurrah hurrah abortions and that other bint who have a Oscar speech about how proud she was of hers so she can act is just downright disgusting
 
It's not a slippery slope, we're already there. These people are actively degrading humanity, and not limited to only life/murder.
I mean I should’ve just posted a MovieBob tweet. Or just his terrible profile pic. It’d would be counterproductive, that man is the poster child for incredibly late term abortions. Giant ass manbaby.
 
lol ripping all those reddit arguments are we?

Do you really think all the people here disagreeing with you are evangelicals? On Kiwifarms? Dude, that's retarded. People just don't like killing babies. That doesn't preclude or include any other policies other than not wanting to kill babies. Every sentence you append with another reddit-gleaned stereotype of what an anti-baby killing person is like just makes you sound more unhinged.
Yes? Most people who are pro-life are evangelicals or some other form of religion. That or incels. I am guessing you're the latter?

I see you didn't address anything else I said, lol. That's because you know I am right and it hurts you. You don't give a fuck about babies, you just faux concern over fetuses because it's easy for you to virtue signal it. If you actually cared about babies, you'd be pushing for more welfare for poor single mothers and healthcare for poor pregnant women and single mothers. But no, your GOP overlords told you those are bad things so you don't do that, and being a good little Republican boomer, you believe whatever Mitch McConnell and Tucker Carlson tell you to

You're no better than people who changed their social media pictures to a flag of Ukraine, except you're actually hurting people with your backwards beliefs
 
Yes? Most people who are pro-life are evangelicals or some other form of religion. That or incels. I am guessing you're the latter?

I see you didn't address anything else I said, lol. That's because you know I am right and it hurts you. You don't give a fuck about babies, you just faux concern over fetuses because it's easy for you to virtue signal it. If you actually cared about babies, you'd be pushing for more welfare for poor single mothers and healthcare for poor pregnant women and single mothers. But no, your GOP overlords told you those are bad things so you don't do that, and being a good little Republican boomer, you believe whatever Mitch McConnell and Tucker Carlson tell you to

You're no better than people who changed their social media pictures to a flag of Ukraine, except you're actually hurting people with your backwards beliefs
You didn't say anything else, though.
 
pushing for more welfare for poor single mothers and healthcare for poor pregnant women and single mothers
The last thing single mothers need is more gibs. Quite the opposite. Maybe if they wouldn’t get treated like “heroes” and get showered with shitloads of free stuff they might have acted more responsibly and learned when to open their legs or at least use some kind of contraception?
except you're actually hurting people with your backwards beliefs
Any law or act that produces less single moms is a net benefit to society. So by decreasing the funding of their irresponsible behavior, one is actually helping society as a whole.
you religious zealots
I’m a hardcore atheist and it’s not that difficult to see how abortion is wrong and incentivizes shitty behavior that ruins society in the long run. Has nothing to do with religion. That’s just your mutt brain thinking that it does.
Most people who are pro-life are evangelicals or some other form of religion. That or incels. I am guessing you're the latter?
The absolute state of redditors.
 
Last edited:
Civilizations used to leave deformed or crippled babies to die of exposure if they didn’t have the resources. I can understand that, but I couldn’t condone it. I think forcing a rape victim to carry a reminder of the rape is a horror story, but I don’t think the child itself is guilty.

They still do. Most disabled kids who pass through the care system were surrendered at birth, in the hospital.

Then they have the lowest rate of full adoption (as opposed to permanent foster), and are the group who spends longest in care awaiting permanent placement.

It was still the accepted standard of care in the eighties for Downs babies, unless the parents were explicitly clear that they wished to take the baby home, to be given palliative care only off-ward. They were kept warm, wrapped up, and deeply sedated, but no milk or water until they died.

The overwhelming majority of babies with chromosomal abnormality in nations with widespread prenatal screening are terminated at twenty to twenty two weeks.
 
I know you Republicans hang on the words of whatever your boomer overlords like Donald Trump say and don't sway from him at all, but I don't do the same with Biden.

Just because people are having sex doesn't mean you religious zealots have to punish them
Consequences of your own actions are punishments now?
 
Not at all. They're saying they're fine with removing women's bodily autonomy, yet when it comes to their bodies, they throw a temper tantrum
Nope.

I fully acknowledge that women wanting access to an abortion are putting forward a bodily autonomy claim. Similarly, when it comes to the Biden vaccine or test mandate I am putting forth a similar claim. Now that we both put forward a claim of bodily autonomy in the light of government action who is going to be the arbiter?

The arbiter in the US system are the courts. A seemingly sufficient argument has been made in the Biden vaccine case but the court has decided the claim of abortion is better left to be states.

Now, I am sympathetic to being an anarchist free of the evil government and society imposing it's rules on people but we currently live in a society governed by the US Constitution. Under such a system, rights are going to be decided by someone.

This is where we are at currently.

P.S. I will abstain from voting for or against abortion in my State of Idaho.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back