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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Both Finland and Sweden have security assurance from the US while they're applying for the NATO membership. Translated from Diplospeak, that means both countries are still scared of what Putin could do if he's insane enough and attack either Baltic countries. That said, the assurance from the US means Washington is pushing for their entries into NATO, since this war have changed the tune of both countries who are proud of their independence from NATO for decades. They don't want to miss the opportunity
 
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Still pretty much zero movement by the Russians on the Donbas front. American artillery has reportedly reached the front as part of the 81st Mechanized Brigade, and has been put to use. Ukrainian 93rd Mechanized Brigade has also somehow gotten their hands on a T-80UK and are using it against the Russians.
>Ukraine will fall in 36 hours
>Kiev will fall in 3 days
>Mariupol will fall in 3 weeks
>Ukraine can't launch counter-offensives
>Ukraine can't redeploy its forces to the south
>Ukraine can't get new western weapons from the Polish border all the way to the front lines <---- [YOU ARE HERE]
>Ukraine won't survive when Russia is fully mobilized
>Ukraine won't retake Donbass
 
>Ukraine will fall in 36 hours
>Kiev will fall in 3 days
>Mariupol will fall in 3 weeks
>Ukraine can't launch counter-offensives
>Ukraine can't redeploy its forces to the south
>Ukraine can't get new western weapons from the Polish border all the way to the front lines <---- [YOU ARE HERE]
>Ukraine won't survive when Russia is fully mobilized
>Ukraine won't retake Donbass
If it keeps going like this eventually will end with a line about "Russia will retake Novosibirsk from Ukraine when it mobilizes all the troops in eastern Siberia"
 
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>Ukraine will fall in 36 hours
>Kiev will fall in 3 days
>Mariupol will fall in 3 weeks
>Ukraine can't launch counter-offensives
>Ukraine can't redeploy its forces to the south
>Ukraine can't get new western weapons from the Polish border all the way to the front lines <---- [YOU ARE HERE]
>Ukraine won't survive when Russia is fully mobilized
>Ukraine won't retake Donbass
If @Techpriest is right about the M777s on the front, aren't we one more down the list.
 
It's easy to get caught up in the rush of condemnation - at least, for me it seems to be - but this here is why I ultimately abhor war in all its forms. These young men have been brutalised by their nation's policies and then sent to die in agony, in a muddy field, and for what? An old man's pride, paranoia, and ambitions of empire?

Save your tears. POWs float any excuse about not knowing, not shooting etc. Everyone of them knew where they were going. The smart ones left, really did. In the first week some squads marched out, some lay down arms. This is not war, even under contract you can legally refuse to fight. Some grow balls to do just that.

My own and extended family lived through Nazi occupation, not even SS went full on medieval barbaric invasion, no discipline, robbing, raping, looting, shooting civs for shits and giggles.

A lot of them thought it was going to be Crimea 2.0. Overwhelming show of force, surrenders, exceptions shot back. Everyone just stood around smug, got their medals, combat pay for just hanging out. Not this time around.

As to conscripts, look at Moscow. Parents of conscripts knew damn well where they served. Only after cruiser was sunk did they made stink. Before they were posting photos in uniforms, throwing insults about putting Ukrops in their place.

If @Techpriest is right about the M777s on the front, aren't we one more down the list.
he is, there are vids of them in action already.
 
If @Techpriest is right about the M777s on the front, aren't we one more down the list.
That was my point.
Basically one of the more recent pro-Russian/Z-boi copes was that all that western lethal aid won't actually be able to make it across all of Ukraine to the frontlines in time, yet here we are.
 
If it keeps going like this eventually will end with a line about "Russia will retake Novosibirsk from Ukraine when it mobilizes all the troops in eastern Siberia"
Kiev was a feint for Donbass was a feint for Kherson was a feint for Sevastopol was a feint for Belgorod was a feint for Rostov-on-Don was a feint for Moscow was a feint for Putin's bunker underneath Mount Yamantau.
 
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Defense Forces of Ukraine move to counteroffensive in Kharkiv and Izyum directions - Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine General Valery Zaluzhny​

Source: Live UA Map.

Russians also seem to be focusing around the Kramtorsk bulge as the Ukranians are just swatting silly numbers of ORLAN-10 drones out of the sky, claiming a 7th sometime today.
 
"It feels dragged on" - lukashenko about "Special Military Operation"

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Belarus’ authoritarian leader says he didn’t expect Russia’s war in Ukraine to drag on for so long and claimed he was doing “everything” to stop it, in an interview with The Associated Press on Thursday.

Alexander Lukashenko, the country's disputed president, defended Moscow's invasion but he said he didn't think it would “drag on this way”.

“But I am not immersed in this problem enough to say whether it goes according to plan, like the Russians say, or like I feel it. I want to stress one more time, I feel like this operation has dragged on,” Lukashenko said during the nearly 90-minute interview at the Independence Palace in Minsk.

He also alleged that Ukraine was “provoking Russia” and insisted that Belarus stands for peace.

“We categorically do not accept any war. We have done and are doing everything now so that there isn’t a war. Thanks to yours truly, me that is, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia have begun,” he said.

“But why is Ukraine, on whose territory a war in effect is ongoing, military action, people are dying — why is Ukraine not interested in these negotiations?”

Lukashenko also said it would be “unacceptable” to use nuclear weapons, but he couldn't say if Russia has such plans.

“Not only is the use of nuclear weapons unacceptable because it’s right next to us — we are not across the ocean like the United States. It is also unacceptable because it might knock our terrestrial ball flying off the orbit to who knows where,” Lukashenko said. “Whether or not Russia is capable of that — is a question you need to ask the Russian leadership.”

Russia deployed forces to Belarusian territory under the pretext of military drills and then sent them rolling into Ukraine as part of the invasion that began on 24 February.

Lukashenko publicly supported the operation, alleging at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in early March that Ukraine planned to attack Belarus and that Moscow’s offensive prevented that. He said he brought a map to show Putin from where the alleged attack was supposed to take place but offered no other evidence to back the claim.

Lukashenko also told the AP that Putin isn't seeking a direct conflict with NATO, and urged the West to ensure that one doesn't happen.

“He most likely does not want a global confrontation with NATO. Use it. Use it and do everything for that not to happen. Otherwise, even if Putin doesn’t want it, the military will react,” the Belarusian leader said.

Earlier this week, the Belarusian military announced snap drills that raised concerns in Ukraine. However, Lukashenko assured the AP on Thursday that the drills didn’t threaten anyone.

“We do not threaten anyone and we are not going to threaten and will not do it. Moreover, we can’t threaten -- we know who opposes us, so to unleash some kind of a conflict, some kind of war here in the West is absolutely not in the interests of the Belarusian state. So the West can sleep peacefully.”

I remember him barking fairly loudly and aggressively in the first week of the war, he became very docile in his rhetoric as war got longer.
 
Ukrainian blogger thrown in jail for saying mean things about Zelensky on the internet.

They even reached out to Spain to arrest him. Maybe I should be careful what I say. I apologize for calling him a faggot earlier. He is a fine specimen of Western Progressivism.
Shariy has had confirmed connections to the Russian government and the charge he's getting is treason. He was badmouthing the Ukrainian government for the last 8 years and the last thing that did him in is that he didn't shut up when the war started.

Shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about if you don't want to end up like Shariy.
 
Shariy has had confirmed connections to the Russian government and the charge he's getting is treason. He was badmouthing the Ukrainian government for the last 8 years and the last thing that did him in is that he didn't shut up when the war started.

Shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about if you don't want to end up like Shariy.
Please just don't interact with that edgy smoothbrain, that guy comes over here every time he thinks russia is about to score a win or he found something Ukrainians did that russians have been doing for decades.

Oh dios mio! Ukrainian blogger arrested for badmouthing his government during a war!

Totally not something that has happened for years on the daily in russia during peace time where all opposition has been banned for years and independent journalists and bloggers tend to die of poisoning or shoot themselves twice in the back of the head.

But people like that don't give a fuck, in their mind russia is justified in doing everything because they fight nazi sims 3 players.

But him gloating about saving drink for when azovstal falls makes me think that that's the russian's new win condition as what he considers a win has been shifting in accordance to russian talking points since it all started.

Edit: Just to add to the last point, I'm fairly certain some of the more active shills fit a description of professional russian shills, existence of which is no secret, and might be getting their talking points from russia as they tend to stick to some single talking point like fly to shit for days on end, it's worth reading their shit if only to maybe have a between the lines glimpse at current propaganda directives.
 
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I'm always amused that these people, likely sat in comfy homes in the West think this wouldn't immediately happen here when an actual war breaks out, and that all the larping commies and faggots who pretend to support these places to be contrarian wont be bundled up and chucked in a prison cell or camp to remove them as potential agitators and fifth columnists.
 
Russian Soldiers sue the RF Army over an "illegal" order to go fight in Ukraine.

"In a rare public spat involving the Kremlin, 25 National Guard 'refuseniks' defied their commanders' orders to invade Ukraine."

Article - DailyMail - Archive

DailyMail so a cup of salt and I'm not going to bother unfucking their horrendous formatting to copy the article over on mobile.
 

Essentially this Daily Mail article notes arson attacks on recruiting stations (no fatalities), explosions at munitions plants (some fatalities and injuries), suggested that the hitherto submerged protest against the war is becoming more aggressive.

Russian Soldiers sue the RF Army over an "illegal" order to go fight in Ukraine.

"In a rare public spat involving the Kremlin, 25 National Guard 'refuseniks' defied their commanders' orders to invade Ukraine."

Article - DailyMail - Archive

DailyMail so a cup of salt and I'm not going to bother unfucking their horrendous formatting to copy the article over on mobile.
National Guards with no passports who said crossing the border was illegal for them. Dismissed, suing for wrongful dismissal. This has been going for a while. Their careful lawyer can be found speaking online. The Tatar blogger and Wilson Center blogger Kamil Galeev commended them for 'hacking the system' that only the stupid end up in wars like this as they are too literal about laws and rules.
 
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Trying to read the other thread gives me headache. Full on sperging and Russia shills.
It's pretty funny seeing nationalists shill for Putin when even RT acknowledges the Russians despise them:


Instead, they are projecting their own issues with their homelands onto this country and its leaders. For instance, American and European far-rightists think that because Vladimir Putin has restored Russia as a strong and sovereign state, he’s somehow aligned with their beliefs. And is on some kind of mission from God to save ‘white’ Christianity.

But, he’s not. Because Russia may well be the most ethnically and religiously diverse country in Europe. And Putin’s own cabinets have included a smorgasbord of Jews, Muslims and Buddhists in addition to the Christians and Agnostics who form the largest Russian ‘belief’ categories.

Instead, the Russian President has personally attended the opening of Russia’s largest mosque, in Moscow, and has been described in a Reuters article as “the closest thing Israel has ever had to a friend in Moscow.” While Russia’s chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, saysPutin is on our side.” He even told the Limmud FSU how “Putin was the first president to publicly speak out against anti-Semitism and did the most for the Jews. There is no institutional anti-Semitism in Russia. The attitude toward the Jews in Russia is excellent."


Inb4 buh...buh...zelensky is a jew. Yes he is, both sides are kiked and "ZOG".
 
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It's pretty funny seeing nationalists shill for Putin when even RT acknowledges the Russians despise them:



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Inb4 buh...buh...zelensky is a jew. Yes he is, both sides are kiked and "ZOG".
When pointing things like this out the narrative goes from "based russia fighting globohomo" to "have you thought that maybe both sides are wrong" or leaving behind the pretense of being a /pol/ right winger and going full leftist "muh nazis" reeee.
 
When pointing things like this out the narrative goes from "based russia fighting globohomo" to "have you thought that maybe both sides are wrong" or leaving behind the pretense of being a /pol/ right winger and going full leftist "muh nazis" reeee.
But what about MUH AZOV?!!?
 
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