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I know replying now will only add more fuel to the recent dumpsterfire...

...but im gonna do it regardless
Comparing one group you don't watch to another group you don't watch honestly just makes you look openly retarded.

If I said 'Based on the clips I watched, Marine is just a Japanese VShojo member' I'd be lynched by this thread that has spent the last two days talking about Pippa's dental records and political allegiances mostly uninterrupted.
Being totally honest, I don't even think VShojo is what most boards think VShojo is like. When we talk about 'Perpeepoopoo VShojo jokes' we are mostly talking about Nyanners and Vei. Froot isn't really like that, Zen isn't really like that, Mousey isn't really like that.
Silver isn't really like that all the time. Hime basically doesn't exist.

So, ignoring the fact that the Pippa stream that displayed Finana talking about sex toys also had clips of Pomu, Reimu, Enna, Millie, and Selen, Finana only makes up 5% of the branch.

'NijiEN is just VShojo-lite' is just an incredibly smoothbrain take that can only be upheld by someone who doesn't watch them.
And what if it comes from someone who actually watched NijiEN & Vshojo streams? beacause I did. Now the correct sentence (or running joke) is "Finnana is like a Vshojo-lite" and not nijiEN as a whole (edit: i watched until Obsydia so i have no clue if the rest are as or more explicit than the fish), sure they can be more explicit than holoEN or any vtuber who just decides to make GA or PG-13 content, but they barely reach the MA levels of Vshojo, being Finnana the only one who touches the ceiling.

And before someone says "b-but not all her content is like that" im not talking about how often they say something too explicit like the machine guns that are Nyan or Vei for example, but instead how explicit are their expresions when they decide to come out. With that said, Marine can be as explicit as some vshojo members? yes, does that represent holoJP as a whole and worth to confirm marine===vshojoJP? fuck no.

Just because the rest ot the shojos doesnt drop the bomb as frequently as Vei or Nyan, it doesnt make the whole group an innocent bird. Same as holo was founded with an idol-like type of content in mind, vshojo was founded with an openly-sexual type of content in mind, and it showed in many ways, even before the agency existed when they were just a group of friends; i was there watching, since early 2020 until i dropped them after vshojo was founded so i can confirm.

Never assume that every person that compares agencies or talents is 100% a clipfag, pov exists you know?
I mean I respect being open and honest about it at least. Rare for a vchuuba to admit to their love life.
good for her! i have no love for Nyanners but i do wish her and her boyfriend well. she's brave for being honest.
Nyanners & honest in the same sentence? Now if she was brave enough to address that controversy that still makes her labeled as a hypocrite to this day.
Why do non-Japanese idols think their audience will have Japanese sensibilities when talking about being in a relationship
Literally no one cares because they're not selling the idea of being pure for the audience.
Imagine being an unicorn of Vshojo of all the groups, i still remember the Vei unicorn, even if i dont like her, that dude deserved to be shamed.
 
She's mostly recovered now but she was talking about wanting to show this game to one of her friends then randomly broke down crying. I missed the beginning though so I don't know if there was more context given earlier
Yesterday she said she felt like she did when she first started hololove with the second job. Basically her days for the next month are wake up, music production and related stuff, stream, sleep. Stress is probably getting to her.
 
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>KoTOR is an old game
Please don't do this to me, I played this religiously back in high school
middle school for me but i get the feeling.

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Looks like you can celebrate it's 20th anniversary next year!

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I'm honestly surprised it was that old, cause I remember playing it when I was a kid but not that early.
 
And what if it comes from someone who actually watched NijiEN & Vshojo streams? beacause I did. Now the correct sentence (or running joke) is "Finnana is like a Vshojo-lite" and not nijiEN as a whole (edit: i watched until Obsydia so i have no clue if the rest are as or more explicit than the fish).
You answered the question for me:

'I watch(ed) their streams, and I would correct it from 'NijiEN' to 'Finana'. Essentially helping prove my point that anyone who watches them wouldn't blanket the whole branch.

I think you could make an argument that Mysta is pretty similar to Finana but that's about it post-Obsydia. Millie has her moments but she's mostly just an airhead.
 
There's speculation Pippa might have a pippenis, [...]
During one of her streams yesterday while on twitch, i dont remember if it was during the tenga discussion or if it was when Lia was with her, she was asking a question about penises that would have been absurd for a penis-haver to ask, but she seemed genuinely confused and serious. Someone in chat even commented something like "Pippa is female confirmed" and she responded to it saying like "of course I'm female!"

While I normally would be averse to watching trans streamers for various reasons, in Pippa's case I really don't think it would have much of an influence on me if I saw 100% proof. I've only marginally entertained the notion before, and maybe she was just fucking around acting serious, but that moment on stream removed all but the tiniest sliver of doubt she's exactly who she presents herself as in that regard.

Wish I had a timestamp for it but cba to rewatch both streams again to find it.

 
During one of her streams yesterday while on twitch, i dont remember if it was during the tenga discussion or if it was when Lia was with her, she was asking a question about penises that would have been absurd for a penis-haver to ask, but she seemed genuinely confused and serious. Someone in chat even commented something like "Pippa is female confirmed" and she responded to it saying like "of course I'm female!"

While I normally would be averse to watching trans streamers for various reasons, in Pippa's case I really don't think it would have much of an influence on me if I saw 100% proof. I've only marginally entertained the notion before, and maybe she was just fucking around acting serious, but that moment on stream removed all but the tiniest sliver of doubt she's exactly who she presents herself as in that regard.

Wish I had a timestamp for it but cba to rewatch both streams again to find it.

I saw that part, it's in the last five minutes of the Twitch stream she did before the Lia stream and it was very convincing. Either way, she's funny.

7 minutes of Temma learning English for otakus. Seriously, what kind of books are these that the Japanese are making for learning English?

The Japanese have a long history of weird English instructional content:

 
Opinion discarded.

You know what they say - like streamer, like chat. I'd extend that to say - like streamer, like clippers. It may not be 100% their schtick, but it is what clippers find to clip on (some of) them and get enough people viewing and commenting on them to push up the algorithm on to lowly people who otherwise don't even watch them. Thus that's the impression they give.


Comparing one group you don't watch to another group you don't watch honestly just makes you look openly retarded.

If I said 'Based on the clips I watched, Marine is just a Japanese VShojo member' I'd be lynched by this thread that has spent the last two days talking about Pippa's dental records and political allegiances mostly uninterrupted.

Being totally honest, I don't even think VShojo is what most boards think VShojo is like. When we talk about 'Perpeepoopoo VShojo jokes' we are mostly talking about Nyanners and Vei. Froot isn't really like that, Zen isn't really like that, Mousey isn't really like that.
Silver isn't really like that all the time. Hime basically doesn't exist.

So, ignoring the fact that the Pippa stream that displayed Finana talking about sex toys also had clips of Pomu, Reimu, Enna, Millie, and Selen, Finana only makes up 5% of the branch.

'NijiEN is just VShojo-lite' is just an incredibly smoothbrain take that can only be upheld by someone who doesn't watch them.

Oh looks like we found a nice new bait for @Scuttle and @Rezza ! NijiEN = VShojo-lite, saving for later...


Just wanted to get that out there. Peace and love to a thread full of people who apparently don't like me but I'm still going to post my Oshi and respond as always!

I've gotten over my initial annoyance, but I still think you are pretty biased. Maybe not as much against hololive talents/chuubas, but especially in stereotyping "holofans" and propping them up as what is wrong with vtuber fans, ignoring those types exist in all fandoms.

You've also admitted to doing some trolling/baiting using it, so at this point I no longer give you the benefit of the doubt. But for the most part I've stopped worrying or replying to it and skip your posts, or maybe read them at most to see something from a nijifan perspective and for a few laughs.


I'll never understand the weird fascination people have with the retarded LARPing rabbit, but I also have no tolerance for the whiny "woe is me" mental health faggots. Caveat being Kiara who I've heard was similar but hasn't been since I started watching her at least. So she's at least managed to improve whereas Pippa has money now but is still in need of a tall tree and a short rope.

Pippa is just the thread darling and there isn't much you can do about it but skip posts where everyone is fawning over her, especially during streams. From a KF-regular perspective I think she ticks a lot of boxes and so is very popular here. From a tourist perspective who just found this thread by googling some roommate info and doesn't know anything else about KF, it can be a bit... odd.



Is this the new big kid on the Indonesian community? It's fascinating how Kobo manages to actually fucking beat everyone in ID in terms of viewership, engagement, and growth rate. With all of ya'll saying how she apparently 'saved' the Indonesian branch, I'm curious why and how that happened, and if her past self has anything to do with it.

I'd think if anyone it was Ollie who was the savior of holoID. She seems to really have been the first to get mass (non-ID) appeal, speaks largely in EN and caters more to an EN audience, and interacts a ton with other non-ID members which gets her name out there and recognition. Moona kind of brought a lot of JP over with her Pekora interactions, but Ollie I think brought in the ENs and the biggest growth. Not surprisingly, Ollie and Moona both hit 1M first in ID (and pretty close together, IIRC). It was primed and ready for ID3 and Kobo became that gen's star, so she benefitted from it most.

I like Zeta from holoID3 the best from that gen, so I've been watching mostly her. I remembered when Kobo and Zeta were collabing together early on (I think it was either a valorant or apex stream) and both hit 300K in the same stream, so I thought they were pretty neck and neck, but looking now, Kobo has really shot off and taken a big lead!


Wow. As someone who thinks the whole virginal seiso idol thing is somewhat inhumane, I support this. It would be great if this led to a larger recognition in the industry that these performers are humans who have normal human desires and do normal human things.

Literally everyone thinks this, except unicorns and schizos who make up a extremely small percentage of fans.


Edit: for showing my nijiside... Apparently it is now a normie thing being into comicbookstuff...

Makes me question my identity as I like weeb stuff as much as comic stuff.
Shizo will probably do (:_(

The MCU is the biggest movie franchise in history and prints money (as much as some OG comics fans probably don't like it), scifi/fantasy movies and TV shows are some of the most huge and popular, pretty much all the younger generations grew up watching Pokemon, Naruto, DBZ, Bleach, other "anime", etc on adult swim or elsewhere, also they grew up playing video games on PC, nintendo, PS, and/or xbox. JP manga is massively eating modern EN comic's lunch due to all the wokeness being pushed in it now. Pretty much all the geeky and nerdy stuff from when we grew up (at least old farts like some of us here) that we used to have to hide or be made fun of - comics, anime, video games, etc - is now just "normie" stuff.

You have to be pretty hardcore autistic about stuff like that anymore to be considered abnormal.
 

Is this the new big kid on the Indonesian community? It's fascinating how Kobo manages to actually fucking beat everyone in ID in terms of viewership, engagement, and growth rate. With all of ya'll saying how she apparently 'saved' the Indonesian branch, I'm curious why and how that happened, and if her past self has anything to do with it.
Someone pointed this out before, but the key to explosive popularity seems to be having an aquatic blue kusogaki character ("bluekogaki"?). We'll keep a lookout and see if it happens a third time.


Regarding Nyanners' BF, well... good? I mean this is vshojo, the company whose talents won't shut up about how much they love dick, so I don't think any illusions have been shattered.
Gura Killer?

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I guess Yugo really is half-KR...
What's with Asians doing weird shit to animals before they eat them.
 
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I dont know what
I dont know why
But something in Amiya's voice drives me up a fucking wall.
Her model and choice of games is still top notch tho, too bad its associated with Tsunderia, which means she will graduate in a month or two-
 
Kiara's in the members stream announcing Nenechi and her are heading to Spain some time in the future. Nene's always wanted to go but was too nervous about leaving Japan, so Kiara said she'd organize everything for the two of them and they can go to the places Nene wants to see. Nene needs to get a passport before anything is set in stone though. I recall Nene talking to Kiara about wanting to go to Italy in an earlier stream so it might be a Europe wide trip.
 
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