Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[DrJonesHat]

I hear ya. He may well lurk more then I think he does.

The main thing to take away though, is that neither of us can state as a fact that he 100% DOES or 100% does NOT follow his thread closely. That way lies @StreightShooter2 style madness and muddying of the waters.

I think he checks it from time to time to see if there's anything he can use against Null in some way. But I don't think he has for a while. He was SO sure the judge was going to grant his request to order Marathon to let him on, or they'd see reason and let him on themselves that he was still practicing with the Accommodations in April.

He seems to be completely dark right now. I wonder if he's nursing a narcissistic injury because he saw the Instagram post about how filming for the initial round has wrapped and all chances of being on this season are gone. He might be checking the thread while he broods, but maybe he's planning his next move. I wonder if he's going to try to file an amendment complaint or request for injunction that they have to let him on next season. It's very hard to convince Russ he's lost, and Marathon hasn't broken out the heavy artillery yet so he may think he can still sue his way to fame.

 

[Phimosis Jonisis]

Your arguments are well taken. But I would like to present Exhibit A (which, full disclosure, I was a part of.)

Stimulus:

Response:

He may not read every single post in this thread. But he definitely lurks here.

What a cutie

 

[Bassomatic]

Your arguments are well taken. But I would like to present Exhibit A (which, full disclosure, I was a part of.)

Stimulus:

Response:

He may not read every single post in this thread. But he definitely lurks here.

If rusty wasn't just god awful the "I love being me" would make me pity him. He's no rocket scientist but he has to hate life even with his narcissist issues he hates life for the wrong reasons but he still gotta hate life .

 

[The Littlest Shitlord]

I hear ya. He may well lurk more then I think he does.

The main thing to take away though, is that neither of us can state as a fact that he 100% DOES or 100% does NOT follow his thread closely. That way lies @StreightShooter2 style madness and muddying of the waters.

To muddy the waters even further, we have no idea how many lurking trolls may or may not be interacting with Russ while taking their cues from this thread. Even if Russ never reads his thread, it doesn't necessarily mean that he'll never see anything posted here.

 

[DrJonesHat]

If rusty wasn't just god awful the "I love being me" would make me pity him. He's no rocket scientist but he has to hate life even with his narcissist issues he hates life for the wrong reasons but he still gotta hate life .

Oh he hates his life, but it's everyone else's fault he's not famous. Remember this post on some random model's IG who made the mistake of posting a pic of her with a guy?
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/collage-2022-04-12-16_27_26-jpg.3173283

He flat out blames "unsolicited policies and disabilities" for the fact he's not famous, but should be. God, what a sense of entitlement. And of course, the poor woman is committing the unforgivable sin of ruining Russ's fantasy by posting a pic with her bf.

 

[The Dude]

I'd be willing to bet that Russhole checks the thread. I doubt he frequently checks it for every little update since it would be too much for his fragile little ego to handle, but I'm sure he drops by a couple times per month, maybe a little more often than that. Raging narcissists like Russ obsess over what people are saying and thinking about them, and he's demonstrated a few times that he follows what we say and will address things we have said. Remember when he got so upset about us talking about him going bald that he had to insert the thing about having a "full set of hair" in his lolsuit? Or how about his Pipsqueak nickname?

And of course he hates his life, but he hates his life because he's not getting the things he feels entitled to. He still isn't famous, isn't rich, hasn't gotten on AGT, and doesn't have hot celebs and supermodels breaking down his door to suck him his penis in a way that helps with his disability. He hates his life because he feels people are keeping him from getting those things he wants. He will never admit that his life being shit is 100% his own fault and he will lie his ass off by saying he loves his life because he can't let people know he's not a totally awesome stud banging 9s and 10s only, unless in his mind acting like a pathetic sad sack will help him get something he wants.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I'd be willing to bet that Russhole checks the thread. I doubt he frequently checks it for every little update since it would be too much for his fragile little ego to handle, but I'm sure he drops by a couple times per month, maybe a little more often than that. Raging narcissists like Russ obsess over what people are saying and thinking about them, and he's demonstrated a few times that he follows what we say and will address things we have said. Remember when he got so upset about us talking about him going bald that he had to insert the thing about having a "full set of hair" in his lolsuit? Or how about his Pipsqueak nickname?

And of course he hates his life, but he hates his life because he's not getting the things he feels entitled to. He still isn't famous, isn't rich, hasn't gotten on AGT, and doesn't have hot celebs and supermodels breaking down his door to suck him his penis in a way that helps with his disability. He hates his life because he feels people are keeping him from getting those things he wants. He will never admit that his life being shit is 100% his own fault and he will lie his ass off by saying he loves his life because he can't let people know he's not a totally awesome stud banging 9s and 10s only, unless in his mind acting like a pathetic sad sack will help him get something he wants.

Yeah, in his last filings in the AGT suit, he went from "studly paralegal who's basically a lawyer" to "I don't know anything, please tell me what to do judge" on a dime when he thought it would get him on the show. He's willing to play the hapless disabled dork if he thinks it'll evoke sympathy.

 

[Sona]

Personally I don't think Russ visits the thread because the last time we got confirmation that he read here, this happened:

The Dude- you’re famous! View attachment 739887View attachment 739888

He can't handle the Farms

 

[DrJonesHat]

Personally I don't think Russ visits the thread because the last time we got confirmation that he read here, this happened:



He can't handle the Farms

I forgot I'm a Nazi because I post on a forum where some people are right wing, some are left wing, and many are just here to laugh at people making fools of themselves regardless of their political affiliation. Of course we're infinitely worse than a guy who has had at least three restraining orders issued against him, has a guilty plea for electronic harassment, and is shitting on everyone else's hard work by asking a judge to skip him over people just because he's disabled.

 

[Awel an Ankoù]

Russell if you're reading this: you will never be a celebrity's boyfriend, join the 3.2%.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Russell if you're reading this:

Spoiler

you will never be a celebrity's boyfriend, join the 3.2%.[/ISPOILER]

I still occasionally marvel at the fact he thinks celebrities and female models are force to troll Instagram comments and DMs for potential boyfriends. By definition, those people are in very social fields, so they probably have a large pool of prospects if they decide they want a relationship. And even if they don't go with people they meet personally, there are dating sites for the beautiful people only. They're not gonna respond to some freak on Instagram demanding a chance because he's nice.

Let's say some random Instagram person suffered a head injury and responded positively to Russ's DM begging for a gf. First, she has to pay her own way to Vegas, second, he can barely support himself, let alone another person and definitely not in the style to which she's accustomed. She would leave in short order, with Russ insisting she can't. I can't see anyone debasing themselves by willing fucking Russ without a substantial upfront payment, even if she was doing it to build attention for her brand for some masochistic reason.

 

[Drowningman]

Shit lips can't understand celbs and other people use social media for promoting their products or sharing their lives to fans,followers and Bots .
Unfortunately Russ will never see anything he dosen't want to.
He is like a kid with his fingers in his ears going " I can't hear you!"

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

I still occasionally marvel at the fact he thinks celebrities and female models are force to troll Instagram comments and DMs for potential boyfriends. By definition, those people are in very social fields, so they probably have a large pool of prospects if they decide they want a relationship. And even if they don't go with people they meet personally, there are dating sites for the beautiful people only. They're not gonna respond to some freak on Instagram demanding a chance because he's nice.

Let's say some random Instagram person suffered a head injury and responded positively to Russ's DM begging for a gf. First, she has to pay her own way to Vegas, second, he can barely support himself, let alone another person and definitely not in the style to which she's accustomed. She would leave in short order, with Russ insisting she can't. I can't see anyone debasing themselves by willing fucking Russ without a substantial upfront payment, even if she was doing it to build attention for her brand for some masochistic reason.

Well, she's supposed to realize that the poor, homely guy with a heart of gold is a better catch than those wealthy, handsome men who treat her like shit.

It's like one of those obese Star Trek nerds who truly believes that nerds can't be fit/fit people can't be intelligent. Yeah, being a good person is the most important thing, but it's also something that most people can achieve. The funniest part is that Russ doesn't even meet that low bar for human decency that others do -- he just assumes it works in reverse as well, that if you're not wealthy or good looking, you MUST be a great person. That's kiiiind of true, if you're looking at people who are, say, ugly but successful actors-- if they have nothing else going for them, they must be really talented. Not that this applies to Russ at all, in any way, but it's not magical. It's work. You work to be a good person, or a fit person, or whatever. You don't get compensatory awesomeness for having a disability. It doesn't work that way.

Russ just wants a gold star for making the minimum effort. This is known.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Shit lips can't understand celbs and other people use social media for promoting their products or sharing their lives to fans,followers and Bots .
Unfortunately Russ will never see anything he dosen't want to.
He is like a kid with his fingers in his ears going " I can't hear you!"

It's a parasocial relationship. Celebs, models, whoever create a false connection and sense of familiarity with their followers because it makes them easier to get them to do what the person wants, whether it's spend money on them, buy their album, whatever. Most famous people and especially camgirls/models cultivate a public persona that usually is nothing like their real personality. But Russ doesn't know that. He thought he had a connection with Taylor Swift before she could have possibly ever found out he exists. That's why he wrote the song. He not only thought he knew her, he thought he knew her well enough that he anticipated a positive reaction from her and was both crushed and confused when her agents rejected his song. She was supposed to listen to it and ask him to write songs for her! That's not like the Taylor he knew! In his book he even implies that he thought she was acting out of character, even though here in the real world, he has absolutely no idea how she acts when the public isn't watching.

It's like one of those obese Star Trek nerds who truly believes that nerds can't be fit/fit people can't be intelligent. Yeah, being a good person is the most important thing, but it's also something that most people can achieve. The funniest part is that Russ doesn't even meet that low bar for human decency that others do -- he just assumes it works in reverse as well, that if you're not wealthy or good looking, you MUST be a great person. That's kiiiind of true, if you're looking at people who are, say, ugly but successful actors-- if they have nothing else going for them, they must be really talented. Not that this applies to Russ at all, in any way, but it's not magical. It's work. You work to be a good person, or a fit person, or whatever. You don't get compensatory awesomeness for having a disability. It doesn't work that way.

What the Star Trek nerds and Russ don't understand is that being a good person is the bare minimum. You don't get rewards for doing what you're supposed to do. Russ is a terrible person, but we should be grateful his mask slips just as soon as he encounters any resistance to his love quest. He can't keep up the charade of being normal long enough to rope someone in. Look at what happens when a woman on Instagram dares to be in a picture with a guy. Russ immediately gets hostile and acts like she's committed a horrible betrayal for not staying single for some guy she probably still doesn't know exists. He scolded a model who posted she was married because he said it would make guys not want to buy her things or give her money. He gets pissed if you ruin the fantasy for him.

 

[it's called nyotaika]

so here's a few questions i wonder about.

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his biomother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

Spoiler: has he ever tried being faceless and anonymous online?

if i had a jacked up face, going on the internet into communities where i'm a faceless entity judged only by my words and online actions would seem like an oasis. any sort of mention of it would come later, after i made personal connections to others, so it wouldn't start off with them pitying me.

russ introduces his disability as an attempt to emotionally coerce sometimes even before he tells the e-girl he is, but has he ever tried the other way around? he's of the millenneal age where he'd have been in the lawless wilds pre-socmed era in his child and teenagerhood, but i could see mormons tightly controlling internet access beyond Acceptably Godly Sites until social media came along and everyone started attaching their face and name to shit.

he won't do it now, clearly, because 'it's not me it's my disability' is the only glue holding him together at this point, but is there any instance we know of where he tried before?

last one: has anyone else with moebius who is not a disgusting goblin inside called him on his "ummm sorry for being disabled" bullshit? i feel like someone must have had, knowing how revolted i would be to share literally anything with such a vile and soulless creature.

 

[Constellationzero]

so here's a few questions i wonder about.

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his biomother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

Spoiler: has he ever tried being faceless and anonymous online?

if i had a jacked up face, going on the internet into communities where i'm a faceless entity judged only by my words and online actions would seem like an oasis. any sort of mention of it would come later, after i made personal connections to others, so it wouldn't start off with them pitying me.

russ introduces his disability as an attempt to emotionally coerce sometimes even before he tells the e-girl he is, but has he ever tried the other way around? he's of the millenneal age where he'd have been in the lawless wilds pre-socmed era in his child and teenagerhood, but i could see mormons tightly controlling internet access beyond Acceptably Godly Sites until social media came along and everyone started attaching their face and name to shit.

he won't do it now, clearly, because 'it's not me it's my disability' is the only glue holding him together at this point, but is there any instance we know of where he tried before?

last one: has anyone else with moebius who is not a disgusting goblin inside called him on his "ummm sorry for being disabled" bullshit? i feel like someone must have had, knowing how revolted i would be to share literally anything with such a vile and soulless creature.

He's been H.H. Holmes online.

Usually back then his handle would be something like Piano Stud or Misunderstood_________. He'd use Holmes's photo. And people STILL knew who he was. Judged by his fruits and all.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

(This is a long post, sorry! To any Rusketeers with a better memory than I, please correct any mistakes I make.)

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his biomother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

Short answer: no.

Long answer: it's complicated.

Spoiler: Longest answer

Okay, it's still no, but it's a multifaceted answer to your multifaceted question.

First, consider his former religion. Maybe I'm misremembering Mormon teachings, but I seem to recall that men are revered more for whatever reason, and Mormon women are expected to obey the men in their lives (at least the older ones). This may be the origin of his belief that men control the autonomy of women in their lives (e.g., Taylor Swift's dad). This must have had a hand in forming his worldview.

Second, he has his delusion of being the only nice guy in the world (him an every other incel online.) When he sees a beautiful woman with another man, he seethes because, in his mind, he has this script of how the man is a total asshole and only Russ can save her.

Which leads nicely to my next point: he has a mental script in his head of how the world works. It's a very simple script: he is nice to girl, girl suck him his penis. When it's not followed, he tries to guilt the girl into sucking him his penis. When that doesn't work, he moves on (or sues if it's Taylor Swift.) He may well have some kind of autism because he stubbornly follows not only this recipe, but another that (we assume) got him what he wanted as a child- namely, tattle to an authority figure that someone's being meeeeeeeean, and the authority figure will make things go in Russ's favor. It doesn't work that way in real life, though, but he sticks to the script nonetheless. And it's not just with girls or tattling. He has a mental script for everything (a good example of his mental script would be after Skordas whooped his ass the first time. Russ waited for Skordas, expecting to shake hands like a gentleman, but Skordas just blew past him, without even looking his way. Russ was genuinely confused.)

Fourth, while he wants a woman for both sex and status, we do have proof he's solicited men for sex (and given a handjob in return for a ride to a brothel), so yes, he does view men as a means to an end (that end getting sexual pleasure.)

Fifth, I do believe he had male acquaintances at one point, but he cut them off. They tried to warn him what going down the path of the lolcow would do, and he cut them out of his life entirely, because Russ knows best.

Finally, he may in fact be afraid of men because men typically are larger and stronger than women, and thus more able to forcefully assert their will. I don't think we've seen any proof of this, but feel free to correct me.

Spoiler: has he ever tried being faceless and anonymous online?

if i had a jacked up face, going on the internet into communities where i'm a faceless entity judged only by my words and online actions would seem like an oasis. any sort of mention of it would come later, after i made personal connections to others, so it wouldn't start off with them pitying me.

russ introduces his disability as an attempt to emotionally coerce sometimes even before he tells the e-girl he is, but has he ever tried the other way around? he's of the millenneal age where he'd have been in the lawless wilds pre-socmed era in his child and teenagerhood, but i could see mormons tightly controlling internet access beyond Acceptably Godly Sites until social media came along and everyone started attaching their face and name to shit.

he won't do it now, clearly, because 'it's not me it's my disability' is the only glue holding him together at this point, but is there any instance we know of where he tried before?

Yes, on Reddit. He's bitched to femcels about them rejecting perfectly nice disabled guys. We have screenshots of these exchanges, and though the account is anonymous we're pretty sure it's him.

last one: has anyone else with moebius who is not a disgusting goblin inside called him on his "ummm sorry for being disabled" bullshit? i feel like someone must have had, knowing how revolted i would be to share literally anything with such a vile and soulless creature.

No, but strangers with no knowledge of him have called him old. Which really stings, since he's built his identity on being a young stud.

 

[DrJonesHat]

It's like one of those obese Star Trek nerds who truly believes that nerds can't be fit/fit people can't be intelligent. Yeah, being a good person is the most important thing, but it's also something that most people can achieve. The funniest part is that Russ doesn't even meet that low bar for human decency that others do -- he just assumes it works in reverse as well, that if you're not wealthy or good looking, you MUST be a great person. That's kiiiind of true, if you're looking at people who are, say, ugly but successful actors-- if they have nothing else going for them, they must be really talented. Not that this applies to Russ at all, in any way, but it's not magical. It's work. You work to be a good person, or a fit person, or whatever. You don't get compensatory awesomeness for having a disability. It doesn't work that way.

so here's a few questions i wonder about.

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his biomother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

Spoiler: has he ever tried being faceless and anonymous online?

if i had a jacked up face, going on the internet into communities where i'm a faceless entity judged only by my words and online actions would seem like an oasis. any sort of mention of it would come later, after i made personal connections to others, so it wouldn't start off with them pitying me.

russ introduces his disability as an attempt to emotionally coerce sometimes even before he tells the e-girl he is, but has he ever tried the other way around? he's of the millenneal age where he'd have been in the lawless wilds pre-socmed era in his child and teenagerhood, but i could see mormons tightly controlling internet access beyond Acceptably Godly Sites until social media came along and everyone started attaching their face and name to shit.

he won't do it now, clearly, because 'it's not me it's my disability' is the only glue holding him together at this point, but is there any instance we know of where he tried before?

last one: has anyone else with moebius who is not a disgusting goblin inside called him on his "ummm sorry for being disabled" bullshit? i feel like someone must have had, knowing how revolted i would be to share literally anything with such a vile and soulless creature.

As far as we know, he leads off with the fact his face is broken every time he introduces himself anywhere. He seems to expect people to understand that means they're supposed to give him whatever he wants and they can't criticize him at all.

And yes, whenever he deals with a woman he tries to identify the man who owns her. He was baffled and angry that Austin Swift (Taylor Swift's brother) didn't make her contact him so he could give her his song. He views men who are in a relationship with a woman who's caught his baleful gaze as somehow stealing his property. He's afraid of men in person, but he's unrelentingly hostile to guys who have girlfriends. So far, he hasn't tried to put the moves on a married woman, but who knows?

He does view men as people, but they are his adversaries. You can tell in his email exchange with Marathon's lawyers he was thrown off guard when Molly Lens, Attorney At Law and Actual Female Human took the lead and Zachery (I think his name was Zachery) deferred to her. He wasn't happy he was being denied what he saw as his due by a mere woman. He was even more pissed when he got belligerent towards Molly and Zachery shut him down hard. He was so pissed he accused Zachery of threatening him with costs and arbitration when we normal people realized Zachery was merely informing him of the consequences if he kept pushing. He does NOT like it when a woman has authority over him. He really, really doesn't like it when the men who are subordinate to that woman take her side and smack down whatever idiotic scheme he's pursing at the time.

@Sexy Senior Citizen the quote bug affects your post, but in regards to people who've never heard of him calling him old: A while back, there were some Mormon guys who had a friend coming back from his mission, and they were trying to get him a date with a young, attractive female gospel singer. Well, Russ wasn't about to have that, and he told those guys they should concentrate on their missions, and anyway, he was far better for her. Well, people piled on him. The signer was in her early 20s, and I think Russ was about to hit 29 or 30 (don't recall) and people were telling him it was inappropriate for him to hit on the singer because he was 40 or 50, and they weren't trolling. Naturally, he was pissed.

 

[Awel an Ankoù]

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his bio mother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

Russell, much like a more traditional incel, believes that people mate in a set pattern. The difference between Russell and most incels is that he also believes that dating is a computer program where a certain input will cause a certain output. Everyone but him is an NPC, who is either a background character, an enemy, or a friend. This is why he has reacts so violently when something doesn't go his way; the game is bugged and that's unfair.

 

[Viridian]

so here's a few questions i wonder about.

Spoiler: are men people to him?

we all know women aren't in any way beyond sex-dispensers that he deserves because he wants it. but are men?

he does assign any and all autonomy, thought, and volition of the woman to any nearby male, such as chad and ericka. but does he do this because men are people to him, or because he can't fathom being rejected by his 9's and 10's so there must be Some Other Reason?

there's never any interest in going out and forming social bonds and male friendships. he's a narcissist, so he's an always-empty shell of something you might charitably consider a "person", so it could be just complete disinterest. or is he just too justifiably scared that men, not socialized to put up and humor thirsty mongs because they're pitiful, would rightfully fuck him up when he started narc-raging and trying to intimidate them into compliance?

but he seems to want the instathot on his arm as both fuckhole-on-demand and so men (and possibly his biomother, which i'd consider its own special category than 'women') respect him. and yet he doesn't ever seem to aim for men's respect in any other way. so it may just be an unperson fantasy too, where they're the props who envy and seethe in his projection fantasies.

From the evidence we have seen, I would say that specifically white men with money and/or authority are people to him, no other kind. He regularly calls such men "studs" and sucks up to them to try to gain their approval. He doesn't seem to want actual friends (because true friendships exist without any expectation of a "reward" and Russhole sees all human relationships as purely transactional), but he does seem to want acknowledgment and acceptance from men of that category. He seems to care about their opinion and take their opposition to (or even just lack of cooperation with) his schemes very personally. All men of color are dismissed out of hand as "saggy pants thugs" and their feelings and agency are totally disregarded, because Russhole is an actual racist.

Spoiler: has he ever tried being faceless and anonymous online?

if i had a jacked up face, going on the internet into communities where i'm a faceless entity judged only by my words and online actions would seem like an oasis. any sort of mention of it would come later, after i made personal connections to others, so it wouldn't start off with them pitying me.

russ introduces his disability as an attempt to emotionally coerce sometimes even before he tells the e-girl he is, but has he ever tried the other way around? he's of the millenneal age where he'd have been in the lawless wilds pre-socmed era in his child and teenagerhood, but i could see mormons tightly controlling internet access beyond Acceptably Godly Sites until social media came along and everyone started attaching their face and name to shit.

he won't do it now, clearly, because 'it's not me it's my disability' is the only glue holding him together at this point, but is there any instance we know of where he tried before?

The closest he's come to that I'm aware of is when he's claimed he's gone on dating apps/sites and not disclosed up front that he had Moebius syndrome, then later told the people who matched with him about his disability only to be ghosted. I take these stories with grains of salt, however, because the way we heard about these alleged ghostings was him bitching on Facebook/Reddit/Instagram news stories that those spoiled stuck up bitches who were assaulted/murdered by their Tinder dates deserved what happened to them because they refused to go out with a Nice Guy like him! So I don't know if the ghostings actually happened or if he made it up for victimization points.

If I remember correctly, during the Erika saga she didn't know at first about his disability. He brought it up of his own accord the moment she stood up to him about being a pushy controlling asshole who bitched at her for not immediately responding to his messages, attempting to use it as a get out of consequences free card like he always does. Erika rightfully called him out on that being a manipulative bitch move and he freaked out on her.

last one: has anyone else with moebius who is not a disgusting goblin inside called him on his "ummm sorry for being disabled" bullshit? i feel like someone must have had, knowing how revolted i would be to share literally anything with such a vile and soulless creature.

I don't know if anyone specifically with Moebius has called him out in real life. He hasn't shown any interest in networking with other people with his same disability. I know he's made noise before about how he's somehow the most victimized and disadvantaged sufferer of Moebius syndrome to ever exist, if not the most victimized and disadvantaged disabled person to ever exist. He routinely dismisses truly inspiring stories about people with much more serious disabilities than his by claiming he somehow has it worse than them.