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In a different note, you guys know how sometimes this community is compared to bronies and furries and shit? Do you think that vtubing will go the way of those fandoms? Will the community just fracture into several scattered groups and be taken over by a bunch of freaks and degenerates who use live2d to play out all of their fucked up delusions and fetishes? I know we aren't exactly like those groups since both of those kinda started based on pure cancer and just continued being cancer except that it spread around and made the sanest members of those groups not want to be associated with it,

That makes me think that this community being led by corpos is what keeps it from being taken over by retards and spiraling into an absolute autistic clusterfuck, it has been my favourite rrat or heck call it a premonition for all i care, that the day that the indies dominate this industry, vtubing will peak and will never be the same.

Tl;DR I did a big think guys please give me a medal

Eventually, everything will run its course. Maybe it will end up like those fandoms. Maybe not. If the global community doesn't consist entirely of coomers (who have no regard for actual talents, skills, and good humor except "coombait"), then vtubing won't degrade as quickly as those fandoms did. It all falls on the community. So ya'll better enjoy it while it's still relatively pristine. I do hope we'll still have a stream of remarkable vtubers with good talents. Hopefully Vtubing won't get overtaken by thoterry and petty drama cows in the following years.


I can sorta feel for Pippers' struggle to fit in. You end up jumping into different communities to find a place where ye can be yourself with like-minded people. Fortunately she didn't end up in those communities.

Too bad I missed most of the recent stream. I'll probably rewatch it sometime.
 
Not sure if this got mentioned yet, but Selen's been planning some Overwatch 2 5v5 lobbies with other content creators and teased some of the details after her ranked stream with Vox today.

There'll be two collabs. The first one (May 13 @ 8AM PST) will be mostly Nijisanji members with Surefour and Sleepy. The second one (probably May 16) will be Selen and Vox with content creators and vtubers outside of Nijisanji, with a focus on a more high-skill lobby (t500 + pros).
 
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Hopefully Vtubing won't get overtaken by thoterry and petty drama cows in the following years.
Like I said before about the word "community", I don't think people with a common trait are always of a real "community" - I think there's likely already different groups and kinds of fans of vtubers. OTOH, "bronies" seems to be more alike - to the point where there's easily-fit stereotypes and not that great of a reputation among them...
 
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Gura's voice sounds deeper in her gorn stream, but in a way that make her sound like a 10 yr old. Is she aging backwards or something?
Ive noticed a lot of times in 3D streams peoples real voices start to come out. Maybe its that they use a different mic or that their voice is more tired/strained from moving around.
Really apparent in Luna streams (not that her or Gura's "real" voices are that different from their "stream" voices)
 
I was hoping people would've analyzed Vox's first BB stream and made fun of the bugmen, but it looks like the local gayop succesfully deflected any attention. Riku's agents are truly fearsome.

It was a boring stream anyway, he just went down a list of pre-approved questions, I wouldn't be supprised if he had a damn list of no-no words. This got a laugh out of me though:
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Not sure if this got mentioned yet, but Selen's been planning some Overwatch 2 5v5 lobbies with other content creators and teased some of the details after her ranked stream with Vox today.

There'll be two collabs. The first one (May 13 @ 8AM PST) will be mostly Nijisanji members with Surefour and Sleepy. The second one (probably May 16) will be Selen and Vox with content creators and vtubers outside of Nijisanji, with a focus on a more high-skill lobby (t500 + pros).
With twitch numbers plummeting, she should be charging Blizzard for advertising their shit.

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Poor girl, I hope she feels better. I really do.

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She's fucking great, Lia's tied with Tenma for my favorite PC girl. Fuck the haters.
 
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THAT said, for context to what I said about Lia I'm gonna toss up her stream at a time stamp where she sort of got into some of what I was talking about. It goes on for a fair while, but if you're curious to chill around for like 5 minutes you'll get most the gist of it I think.
Assuming the VoD doesn't stay up: Title <<The Mortuary Assistant>> Powerwash Instead ;3 Stamped at 50 mins
Poor girl, I hope she feels better. I really do.
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If this somehow passes Lia's view, you're a lovely person, Lia love. I'm not a regular, but I do find value in watching you (not so much the segs jokes, but I'm a prude that way), you have immense worth yourself, and I very much want you to be happy (which, face it, can be very hard, life is hard). I hope you go get a hug from someone who cares about you, leave some tears and snot on their shoulder, rub it in there. I hope you can navigate what is ailing you, both externally and internally. There's always a path you can take to seek happiness, you can find it.
 
Kiara's in the members stream announcing Nenechi and her are heading to Spain some time in the future. Nene's always wanted to go but was too nervous about leaving Japan, so Kiara said she'd organize everything for the two of them and they can go to the places Nene wants to see. Nene needs to get a passport before anything is set in stone though. I recall Nene talking to Kiara about wanting to go to Italy in an earlier stream so it might be a Europe wide trip.
Time to visit some distant family in Spain. It's not like I'm gonna be spending every day by the Sagrada Familia waiting for a pasty white girl and Japanese girl to pass by. Nope, not at all...
 
This is related to the Saruei/Cimrai drama that popped up a few days ago. Yesterday she posted a terrible video which probably made things even worse than they were (still not sure why she hasn't deleted it).

Let's see how long it takes for people to try to look for something to use against her. Her last video was absolute dogshit and really made me wonder what the fuck was she thinking when she released it. I guess by not touching on the whole loli = pedo thing she has less of a chance to say something even worse. I still think her biggest fuckup was engaging with the people calling her out on it and I still think she should work on weeding out the followers that went after her. The lack of negative replies makes me think people just forgot about it but I wonder if the autistic screeching will start up again once she does the Saruei collab.


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@Swingletonthesimpleton She says she has kids. Also going by voice, not trans like you thought.




THAT said, for context to what I said about Lia I'm gonna toss up her stream at a time stamp where she sort of got into some of what I was talking about. It goes on for a fair while, but if you're curious to chill around for like 5 minutes you'll get most the gist of it I think.
Assuming the VoD doesn't stay up: Title <<The Mortuary Assistant>> Powerwash Instead ;3 Stamped at 50 mins
Impostor syndrome is a common thing. Gura had a case of it and even Calli has talked about it despite being a really fucking workaholic who has truly worked and earned her following. Although in Calli's case I feel like it's more of a "survivor's guilt" type of feeling more than anything.
Lia, I don't really know how I feel about her. I don't really dislike her or anything but I just don't find her interesting enough for me to go out of my way to catch her streams, especially with the large number of vtubers popping up and each day seemingly having less time to do/watch the shit that I want to. Hell I barely ever watch Watson anymore and she's my oshi.
 
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I'd think members would be where the most unhinged people are, those who are willing to throw money at the person in question, i don't know why vtubers feel comfortable divulging shit to the most obsessed of fans.

In a different note, you guys know how sometimes this community is compared to bronies and furries and shit? Do you think that vtubing will go the way of those fandoms? Will the community just fracture into several scattered groups and be taken over by a bunch of freaks and degenerates who use live2d to play out all of their fucked up delusions and fetishes? I know we aren't exactly like those groups since both of those kinda started based on pure cancer and just continued being cancer except that it spread around and made the sanest members of those groups not want to be associated with it,

That makes me think that this community being led by corpos is what keeps it from being taken over by retards and spiraling into an absolute autistic clusterfuck, it has been my favourite rrat or heck call it a premonition for all i care, that the day that the indies dominate this industry, vtubing will peak and will never be the same.

Tl;DR I did a big think guys please give me a medal

5 bucks isn't a lot of gate keeping sure, but it's not typically going to be breaking a bank either. A majority of it is almost guaranteed people going "Hey cheap and easy way to support content from someone." Easy set it and forget it support with the hope they maybe get an extra stream or two of someone they like. Now when someone is sending a poem in 10 different 100 dollar donations well... maybe watch out for them.
This is also not accounting for some other things like chat control. If a lot of no badgers are being obnoxious faggots, welp turn off their talking privileges.

Impostor syndrome is a common thing. Gura had a case of it and even Calli has talked about it despite being a really fucking workaholic who has truly worked and earned her following. Although in Calli's case I feel like it's more of a "survivor's guilt" type of feeling more than anything.
Lia, I don't really know how I feel about her. I don't really dislike her or anything but I just don't find her interesting enough for me to go out of my way to catch her streams, especially with the large number of vtubers popping up and each day seemingly having less time to do/watch the shit that I want to. Hell I barely ever watch Watson anymore and she's my oshi.

Indeed, still a shame to keep seeing it happen when I don't think any of the big corpo people are actually guilty of it. Even the ones that catch shit for being mia often lol.
I think Lia's really good for some incoherent ramblings and wtf are you saying moments. She's not like a hardcore gamer or the best entertainer but very good as something to chill or background. Admittedly I don't always catch her a lot either since she's typically sharing a Sharks time slot. Can lead to some great collabs though.
Time is definitely an issue anymore with this hobby if you can't chop the shit out of your viewing roster.
 
I was hoping people would've analyzed Vox's first BB stream and made fun of the bugmen, but it looks like the local gayop succesfully deflected any attention. Riku's agents are truly fearsome.

It was a boring stream anyway, he just went down a list of pre-approved questions, I wouldn't be supprised if he had a damn list of no-no words. This got a laugh out of me though:
He's not even from London which is the best part. Surprisingly none of the UK centric Niji hires are.
 
Lia, I don't really know how I feel about her. I don't really dislike her or anything but I just don't find her interesting enough for me to go out of my way to catch her streams, especially with the large number of vtubers popping up and each day seemingly having less time to do/watch the shit that I want to. Hell I barely ever watch Watson anymore and she's my oshi.
Among the EN talents of PC she's the only one who has not inclined in viewership and It doesn't help that her schedule overlaps with Pippa. Even when she get 100+ views that will drop to below 50 once Pippa starts streaming. PC really needs to fix their streaming schedules/timeslots.
 
Jesus. I can't like Sakamata of HoloX because I feel like she baits coomers who think gross girls smell good(they don't) and Gura says some shit that makes me raise an eyebrow, but at least it's not in a way that feels like it's playing to an audience. I haven't watched more than a few seconds of Pippa but she seems alright enough, but jesus, how do people get like this? I can be a gross fatty on particularly tiring days of work, but I dunno man. Women are wild.
Quoting @Ralph Barnhardt below and commenting further:
In my own expert and very genius opinion, I think there just wasn't any stability in their childhood. The others I can't speak on as I've never watched most of their stuff but I can flesh out my argument with what I know about the Yabbit.

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The other possibility, and I wanna super stress that I have no direct evidence and don't like insinuating this, is that these women were diddled as children. One defense mechanism of women who were molested is to stop taking care of themselves, make themselves as repulsive as possible to deter anyone from attacking them again or use it as an outward display of how they see themselves. Is that what happened to them? If we're being honest, given what we know about abuse there is a non zero percentage that the answer is yes. I honestly don't ever want to know for two reasons:
To be honest, I had this thought about Sakamata after the bath meme and one clip where she jokingly blamed her grandma for making her a degenerate. She's much more socially capable than Pippa in collabs though, so nah. But I can believe a lack of stability, as she mentioned that she was at her grandma's place a lot as a kid. It's also speculated that Sakamata, her younger sister, and her grandma were living together until grandma passed away a few months ago. Then again, whatever was going on with her family, it wasn't money - she spent a short time studying in New Zealand.

Edit: Clip of Sakamata talking about why she hates baths. My parents would have forced me to get over it, but that just proves the point above.

With Pippa I defer to your knowledge and that of the pippenis washers.

Yeah guys make love not war etc... here's a reminder Reine's thing for the youtube music weekend starts in around 20. Ollie has a segment too afterwards.

Jankier tracking than the ENs, at least to my eye, but it's funny and it's good to see Reine try it out. This may have been mentioned already but I think she wears glasses; a couple of times you can see her raise her hand to the bridge of her nose while doing something else. I don't know why she needs a black iron sword to DJ though, and I don't know if I want to know.

Ollie's segment was also great. Her singing isn't always for me, but I'm very impressed by her translation.

Pick your poison:

Blue Uproar dude is singing to celebrate 50k subs.

Wolf song
 
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