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One of the most shocking things I've seen (I know, been on the internet long enough I shouldn't experience shock anymore), has to be the contempt of adoption amongst the leftists.
This is actually a lolcow trait. We've had many cows with weird, vitriolic hatred of adoption, some of them not even adopted themselves, like Conure Religiousbook of ancient Kiwi lore.
Limiting the number of kids you have isn't necessarily a bad thing in Church teaching (and they even say you shouldn't have an unsustainable number). They just say doing so artificially is an immoral way to do it, as it disrupts anf puts limits on the self-giving love between husband and wife.
I was being mildly joking, as I do know the distinction is that Catholic doctrine is that a fertilized ovum is ensouled, so you can choose not to reproduce, just not to kill already existing life. Then there's the obsession with onanism which is more common among the snake-handling sorts.
 
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One of the most shocking things I've seen (I know, been on the internet long enough I shouldn't experience shock anymore), has to be the contempt of adoption amongst the leftists. They really are pro-abortion over pro-choice. Everything has become so polarizing adoption is now seen as a right-wing thing, like free speech and ivermectin.

The left has become deeply anti-social, so it's not "choice" so much as "families are bad."

Not that there's anything wrong with the choice to never breed, but the motive is kind of a sign of too much time spent dwelling in negativity.

People who are childless by choice tend to think they've found some kind of cheat code for life where they get to stay 20 forever. At 40, they tend to whine that everyone else has moved on and doesn't want to hang out and play Xbox any more.
 
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The left has become deeply anti-social, so it's not "choice" so much as "families are bad."
The way the left had gone, lots of people feel then the left had left them. Elon Musk wasn't wrong with that meme.

Meanwhile, I saw that pic on Twitter who think then the whole pro and anti abortion is a good diversion from other troubles.

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The thing is I don't think they do. If they really believed that a single fertilized ovum was equivalent to a child and that millions were being murdered by birth control, they'd be bombing CVSes.
Abortion clinics have been bombed in the past. You're also talking mostly about various flavors of Christians who don't believe in violence as a solution to societal problems.

A really fallacious take.
 
Abortion clinics have been bombed in the past. You're also talking mostly about various flavors of Christians who don't believe in violence as a solution to societal problems.

A really fallacious take.
You think angry christians who aren't fans of late term abortions and eugenics are bad wait until the muslim niggers get mad. Dearborn, Michigan is a nuclear bomb waiting to go off and those ignoramuses are used as election fortifiers.
 
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Abortion clinics have been bombed in the past. You're also talking mostly about various flavors of Christians who don't believe in violence as a solution to societal problems.

A really fallacious take.
The main people who do things like that are people like Scott Roeder, who most certainly was targeting Tiller because of performing late-term abortions, a scenario where the idea that it's killing a baby makes actual sense. There are also outright crazies like Eric Rudolph, but he is a distinct outlier in abortion foes in that he is vehemently not Christian.
 
Those fences aren't transparent to our democratic proccess and a threat to our democracy
We need the capital fences because the protesters are a threat to our democracy


How long do you think the "threat to our democracy" MK-Ultra trigger words are going to last since they've been used for the good part of the past 8 years and what do you think the next phrase is going to be? I'm thinking something along the that the phrase will have to have the word freedom in it somewhere and maybe something with having to be used against a foreign power as pretext for our government to do another power grab at home since the power pendulum seems to be swinging back. the phrase i'm thinking of is " A threat to our sovereignty and freedoms we hold dear to us "(probably needs to be simplified).

This schizo speak is fueled by Absolute brand Vodka watered down with some dogshit military special i hid away for years because i don't want to drink it but i don't want to waste it.
 
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You think angry christians who aren't fans of late term abortions and eugenics are bad wait until the muslim niggers get mad. Dearborn, Michigan is a nuclear bomb waiting to go off and those ignoramuses are used as election fortifiers.
Indeed, however the MSM will do everything to hide that detail.
 
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The main people who do things like that are people like Scott Roeder, who most certainly was targeting Tiller because of performing late-term abortions, a scenario where the idea that it's killing a baby makes actual sense. There are also outright crazies like Eric Rudolph, but he is a distinct outlier in abortion foes in that he is vehemently not Christian.
Fair enough but the concept that you have to commit violence equivalent to what atrocities you're criticizing in order to be taken seriously is a bit much. The flipside would be "I don't think they actually believe it's about women's rights or bodily autonomy because pro-choicers aren't firebombing churches".

And in case you think I'm pro-choice or whatever for religious, or moral reasons I'm not. The reasons I have for being for the abolition of RvW are secular in nature, personally.
 
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When you say something like this, I wonder what you mean, because the specific reference to "artificial birth control" implies you are okay with something like the rhythm method where you avoid sex when the female isn't ovulating. That's always struck me as such a weird, Jewy technicality. So it's not okay to wreck an egg, but you can totally cock-block the shit out of it.
It’s called NFP and has been allowed virtually firever. Pulling out is explicitly banned in the Catholic and Orthodox churches.

Orthodox priests can grant someone an exception for any method of birth control. Not sure if that exists for Catholics (Orthodox priests are not celibate, FYI).
 
Fair enough but the concept that you have to commit violence equivalent to what atrocities you're criticizing in order to be taken seriously is a bit much. The flipside would be "I don't think they actually believe it's about women's rights or bodily autonomy because pro-choicers aren't firebombing churches".

And in case you think I'm pro-choice or whatever for religious, or moral reasons I'm not. The reasons I have for being for the abolition of RvW are secular in nature, personally.
I give people making this argument enough credit to think that if they knew for a fact a child was being murdered right next door, they'd do something about it more than waving around a sign. Only a monster or a coward would allow that. Accusing them instead of engaging in more than a bit of rhetorical excess is, in my mind, a much less insulting accusation.
 
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I give people making this argument enough credit to think that if they knew for a fact a child was being murdered right next door, they'd do something about it more than waving around a sign. Only a monster or a coward would allow that.
Which is what I'm saying is true of the reverse position, if people really thought this was going to bring about the christian version of a handmaid's tale (or whatever that book's called) why aren't we seeing firebombings? Clearly they don't believe in it. /s
Accusing them instead of engaging in more than a bit of rhetorical excess is, in my mind, a much less insulting accusation.
The first rule of the religion of most of the folks who are pro-life is quite literally "thou shalt not kill". Essentially they're not doing so because they lack conviction but ostensibly because they view human life as sacrosanct. What you're saying would make more sense if it were a secular movement but we're talking about, as I said, various flavors of christian who view the problem - I think correctly given their worldview - that the system and the law are responsible, not merely the people committing the act.

To wit, you're surprised that people who are anti-murder aren't murdering people enough.
 
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That's actually my favorite conspiratard theory about the leak, that it isn't the obvious suspect of a disgruntled leftist law clerk (quite likely one of Breyer's), but instead, some accelerationist nutcase law clerk leaking it to cause riots.
Maybe he is one of them who likes the left’s riots from 2020 and wants it do it again I mean the dates nearly line up
 
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