Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Chinggis Khan]

The Russians could easily have dealt with that by occupying the separatist republics as they did the day before the invasion and just made it clear that they considered it official Russian territory, the part where they started crossing the border in multiple pronged attacks is where they went full retard. Also what came first? Ukraine reneging Minsk or Russia reneging the Budapest Memorandum? Nobody fucking sticks to the treaties, and Russia is being nigger tier for bitching about nazis and crying about NATO and threatening nuclear war because they're unable to spank the Ukrainians.

That makes sense until when you realize any discussion of war is going to escalate into going full force “desert storm” mode to end everything quickly and achieve an overwhelming victory. Obviously the Russians did not expect as much resistance but in particular they did not realize the extent the Ukranian military would be embedded into the civilian populations, and how quickly the war would resort to a grinding block by block fighting which would necessitate civilian casualties in the 6 or 7 figure range to accomplish such a task.

Hindsight is 20/20, but history is filled with examples of belligerents attempting to launch limited and/or more deniable military engagements only to see them escalate into huge quagmires. Any military advisor would almost always argue against it and try to go for the swift decapitating kill. This is the counter example.

As far as sanctions, Russia has already been hit with sanctions in 2014 which allowed them time to prepare. I think the conclusion was that the western response would be the exact same if they had kept to the Donbas regions, so they might as well try to capture kiev. Most of their actions are out of line because all of this should have been resolved in 2014, but Russia kept a more limited and deniable response because the US was much stronger militarily, political, economically, and still had many competent leaders. Most of that is gone now, so Russia held off until they saw the sheer delusional incompetency we now see in the US. If they had intervened in the Donbas in 2014, they would have had more justification and probably would have been more successful militarily, which is usually all that matters. Still, in the end, I think Russia will accomplish its objectives in the long run, and the US will continue to decline (sadly)

 

[Chinggis Khan]

How was Russia forced to enter the war?

It’s called “Compellance”, I never used the word “forced”. The Strategy discussed by US policy advisors is to make not going to war as difficult as possible, to compel a military response. You can read about it in “Strategy of Denial” for a more thorough explanation

 

[UVB-76]

@Givi autistic pedantry alert

>Drone operator spots target
>Calls in so artillery can zone in on it
>Artillery fires, misses
>Drone operator reports miss, tells them to re-adjust
>Artillery fires, hits

That's high precision, but low accuracy. The original firing order was off, and readjusting scores the hit.
Low precision with high accuracy means the original call was correct, but the target survived due to "spread".
Drone observation will improve accuracy of strikes, but cannot make the weapon more precise.

Lol it's on fucking youtube. Guess the guy is a hologram too. What do you think is fake about the intro or ending?

I don't think most war crimes can be featured on youtube. The fact that it's there doesn't tell us squad about veracity, in fact it kinda makes it look like whoever filmed it wanted to limit the gore to increase its reach. Meanwhile stuff like "chechclear" can't be found online anymore (allegedly, I didn't look for it).

 

[BigThaiGreenCurry]

Yo mods, can we change the poll to how long until Russian admits they fucked up?

Keen for the seethe from A/H

 

[Wood]

I don't think most war crimes can be featured on youtube. The fact that it's there doesn't tell us squad about veracity, in fact it kinda makes it look like whoever filmed it wanted to limit the gore to increase its reach. Meanwhile stuff like "chechclear" can't be found online anymore (allegedly, I didn't look for it).

I was responding to the assertion that the intro and ending were cropped because they look fake. They seem legit enough to me.

 

[Elbereth]

As far as sanctions, Russia has already been hit with sanctions in 2014 which allowed them time to prepare. I think the conclusion was that the western response would be the exact same if they had kept to the Donbas regions, so they might as well try to capture kiev.

Russia had 600 billion USD reserves. They put 300 billion in FED and 160 billion in other western banks.

Of their 600 billion, they got 460 billion frozen. This is the level of how prepared Russia was for sanctions

 

[ColtWalker1847]

They did, emphasis on did. Russia still has 99.99999% of it's air power. Ukraine only has a tiny fraction of its air force left which is mostly saved now for PR banzai runs, 80% which end up backfiring on them.

This is why Ukraine military now is mostly just dudes with carriable arms, driving in civilian cars or hiding in trenches now.

After they are done manhandling 4th GTD (again) so bad they have to go back to Russia to refit (again) somebody go tell 93rd Mechanized that all their equipment is blown up. They apparently missed the memo.

Basically because Russia has factories for munitions and Ukraine does not. Why are iphones made in China and not in Portugal? Because China has the fuckin factory dipshit.

Do you think the Russians import their munitions from Pollackisstan? Maybe they get it from Madagascar? Stop rolling the twenty sided die and consulting your AD&D Monster Manual.

Ukraine is one of the largest weapons exporters in europe. It was the industrial heartland of the SU. It built/builds too many weapons systems to name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukroboronprom

Why are ziggers so ignorant?

 

[Corpun]

Russia is fucked. Ukraine just totally attacked a garrison on Snake Island, where the Russians savagely murdered a garrison who refused to surrender but all survived miraculously remember?

I hear the Ghost of Keev was there himself Ace Combat style.

 

[PittyKitty]

Russia had 600 billion USD reserves. They put 300 billion in FED and 160 billion in other western banks.

Of their 600 billion, they got 460 billion frozen. This is the level of how prepared Russia was for sanctions

Jesus every post you make you are overdoing .

At this point is meaningless.




So tomorrow is 9 of May, i took 2 xanax and some beer. Whatever atomic bomb happens around 4 am im sure to fucking miss it.

 

[IKOL]

Yo mods, can we change the poll to how long until Russian admits they fucked up?

Keen for the seethe from A/H

 

[El Iluminado]

Gender equality incoming:
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LMAO, context on the slapping video?

 

[DumbDude42]

As we all know, hastily trained and assembled troops tend to do great in combat and totally don't get slaughtered wholesale. If Ukraine wants to stand a chance, they better ask the West for at least 10,000 artillery pieces because no amount of infantry is going to save an army fighting another with air superiority,artillery supremacy and a lot more tanks, IFVs and APCs.

the answers to artillery are either airstrikes (from planes or drones) or counter battery fire from your own artillery

since the ukrainians have neither a significant air force nor a significant number of artillery of their own, i guess their best bet would be drone strikes on enemy artillery positions? but their drone numbers are limited and probably overwhelmed by the sheer number of artillery pieces russia can field

 

[kuuu]

LMAO, context on the slapping video?

Dunno the story, but I can tell that that's sort of a personality trainer. One of those that grows a cult/sect like following.
And there he was showing how to treat a bitch for disobedience/looking at another man.
Another vid I had:

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Two most democratic western leaders had an exchange about how to be even more democratic today, btw.

 

[mickey339]

It’s called “Compellance”, I never used the word “forced”. The Strategy discussed by US policy advisors is to make not going to war as difficult as possible, to compel a military response. You can read about it in “Strategy of Denial” for a more thorough explanation

How was Russia "compelled" into invading Ukraine?

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

How was Russia "compelled" into invading Ukraine?

20 years of NATO encroachment and obvious military buildup while Western leaders and diplomats said no encroachment and obvious military buildup was ever happening. Also ignoring any attempt to deescalate tensions in Eastern Europe.

It's cool the Europeans are fucked and cucked and it is hilarious. America is making out like a bandit.

 

[Maurice Caine]

With this war escalating further and further where do you predict things will go? I've been hearing a lot that Russia doesn't have the balls to follow through and will withdraw soon but is that really the case? If only the past could be changed...

 

[OG Swolemaster]

NATO military buildup

lmao

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

With this war escalating further and further where do you predict things will go? I've been hearing a lot that Russia doesn't have the balls to follow through and will withdraw soon but is that really the case? If only the past could be changed...

Armchair Generaling here. But it looks like to me Russian military objectives have steadily been downgraded to keeping what they have now and "liberating" the rest of the Donbass region. After the rest of Donbass is taken, Putin will declare victory but keep a "peacekeeping" force to ensure Ukraine can't regain any significant territory.

Either or not this thing ends in a situation like Donbass had where both sides mostly just shake their fists at one another and use occasional artillery but little to no advances or an actual negotiated peace treaty, remains to be seen.

 

[888Flux]

With this war escalating further and further where do you predict things will go? I've been hearing a lot that Russia doesn't have the balls to follow through and will withdraw soon but is that really the case? If only the past could be changed...

Tomorrow will show what direction the war is headed.

 

[UVB-76]

obvious military buildup

900 US troops in Romania, 450 in Lithuania. 1200 NATO troops in Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia each.
That's just 4950 troops close to Russia. How the actual fuck is this an obvious buildup? 5k troops could barely capture Burger Town let alone Moscow.