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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Jill Biden visited Ukraine and now Justin Trudeau visited Irpen.

I guess all the rightoid Russia simps are about to spontaneously combust.

That surprises nobody, after all the reason the US helped finance the coup in 2014 was so the Biden's could extract wealth from Ukraine.

So the US would invade Mexico BEFORE the Chicoms put any military bases there, attempt to take Mexico City and kill/capture the Mexican president?
And them proceed to fail, get driven back to the Rio Grande, meanwhile claiming the whole operation was always about Baja California, Sonora & Chihuahua all the while failing to fully take Ciudad Chihuahua thanks to fucking cartel siccarios hiding out under a factory?
During which time, fresh armaments from China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and Venezuela flow freely to Mexico without interruption and the previously quasi-neutral Mexican government now remains assuredly on the side of China?

That's what the US would do?

Are you familiar with the Bay of Pigs, and long term fallout from that? Or how about all of the Central & South American coups the CIA managed? It's literally what the US does.
 
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He's a wannabe dictator and Chinese stooge, who is almost certainly professing support for Ukraine as a cover for his own increasingly authoritarian behaviour. If Xi told him to simp for Putin tomorrow, he'd do it without question.
Does it really matter why he's doing it, as long as Ukraine is receiving pledged support from Canada?
 
Well i guess it doesnt matter what they say as long as they are there fighting, is pretty valid stance, but it sound real weird coming from you Vince. No offense.
Weird how? I'm asking a question. Or are you trying to pull some moral grandstanding shenanigans, considering your own stance on how the West is due for acceleration and destruction?
 
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Weird how? I'm asking a question. Or are you trying to pull some moral grandstanding shenanigans, considering your own stance on how the West is due for acceleration and destruction?

You are claiming support for stance you yourself dont hold im sorry but you remind me of that meme of left winger trying to "What would jesus do" Christians, Its not moral grandstanding but rather genuine question because honestly it seems to me that you are sort of engaging in double think
 
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You are claiming support for stance you yourself dont hold im sorry but you remind me of that meme of left winger trying to "What would jesus do" Christians, Its not moral grandstanding but rather genuine question because honestly it seems to me that you are sort of engaging in double think
Elaborate your statement.
 
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Are you familiar with the Bay of Pigs, and long term fallout from that? Or how about all of the Central & South American coups the CIA managed? It's literally what the US does.
So if the Chicoms put bases in Mexico, the US would do more half-assed* gayops?
*Given the absolutely atrocious OPSEC of the BoP, and top-down choice NOT to commit naval & air assets to actually support the invasion, calling the BoP "half-assed" is honestly more credit than that operation deserves.

This is comparable to Russia invaded their neighbor and getting checked and held in an open conventional conflict, how?

Elaborate your statement.
He's calling you a coward, Vince.
Because you *allegedly* fled from Ukraine, Vince.
 
He's calling you a coward, Vince.
Because you *allegedly* fled from Ukraine, Vince.
So he's gotten butthurt because I asked a question which could be answered irrespective of someone's background?

I mean, people are free to think what they wish and they are free to call me what they wish too. It's just, that means that you have no other objective responses to my question, beyond switching to my personality.
 
If you don't know what the US would do with China putting military bases in Mexico through some "defensive pact", then you are legitimately retarded.
Ya, USA will make a bloodbath in Tijuana, GI's will rape little girls and the heaviest bomb shelling will go against mexican food production. For sure.

You are probable one of that idiots who are confusing german death camps and interment camps for Japs during second world war?
 
So he's gotten butthurt because I asked a question which could be answered irrespective of someone's background?

I mean, people are free to think what they wish and they are free to call me what they wish too. It's just, that means that you have no other objective responses to my question, beyond switching to my personality.
I was just translating his crazyspeak into plain English.

Since he writes things in an abstract, schizo manner while you have trouble reading between the lines.
 
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Putin does make a show of religious observance, but his Talebs smash a 16th century monastery to pieces with artillery.
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Nukes. My father insisting so much on Putin unleashing nukes when we talked about the war few days ago. It's schizo tier shit because he also believes this war will make China invade Taiwan while Middle East flares up with war again. Dude is smart with domestic politics but extremely ignorant with Geopolitics. Many such cases

The only nuke related thing Putin has done is have his lickspittles make cheap menaces. Perun, an Australian defence analyst, said (in a video I or another posted already), that Russia has done nothing concrete towards using using nukes. on which they expend c. 5 bn a weeks (vs 50bn by the US). A caution he offers that no one can defend against nuclear weapons.



Recorded on May 3, 2022 Ben Hodges agrees with Peter Zeihan about the end of Russia but he disagrees that Ukraine will not win the war. As the war in #Ukraine passes the 70-day mark, questions abound as to whether Russia will soon escalate the brutality, how far Ukrainian forces intend to take the fight, plus the West’s long-term appetite for supplying arms and aid. Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, former commanding general, US Army Europe, joins Hoover senior fellows H. R. McMaster and John Cochrane to discuss what to expect next in Eastern Europe’s war zone.

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This evening men of all ages across Russia started to receive general mobilization notices from their local military command.

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Is Putin going to go for broke with a full or much fuller moblisation?

Translation of one of the notices:

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Now this might be rumor-mongering / mis-info but it would be a plausible direction, a Putin speech full of sperging about Nazis (not his ones) and an another attempt to zerg rush the Donbass, probably.

A translation by someone in that thread:

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The only nuke related thing Putin has done is have his lickspittles make cheap menaces. Perun, an Australian defence analyst, said (in a video I or another posted already), that Russia has done nothing concrete towards using using nukes. on which they expend c. 5 bn a weeks (vs 50bn by the US). A caution he offers that no one can defend against nuclear weapons.





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Is Putin going to go for broke with a full or much fuller moblisation?

Translation of one of the notices:

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Now this might be rumor-mongering / mis-info but it would be a plausible direction, a Putin speech full of sperging about Nazis (not his ones) and an another attempt to zerg rush the Donbass, probably.

A translation by someone in that thread:

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Awwww yeah, Stalingrad 2: Electric Boogaloo here we come. "One man gets the rifle, the other man gets ammunition. If the first man dies, the second picks up his weapon." Probably going to be handing out Mosins as well given the state of their military...
 
The problem with a general mobilization is that it would get more soldiers.

It would also hurt the tatters of an economy they have and strain their already strained logistics.
The longer the Russians wait, the strong Ukraine becomes. Plus the main factor stopping Ukraine from getting a lot of EU and US heavy weapons is lack of training. If they have time to train then Russian soldiers would be going up against a modern and entranced force that literally has unlimited funds.
 
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