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I don't think abortion is going to be as animating as everything costing twice as much as it did a year ago. You literally won't be able to afford thinking about getting pregnant in the coming months, much less abortion. I honestly think if there was going to be a summer of love part 2 from the Roe stuff, we would have seen more than some screeching protests and a molotov cocktail thrown in a Madison, Wisconsin office. Maybe this sets off some spurts of small-scale terrorism against minor targets in commie land, but that doesn't really help the left. Especially when, again, people are actually worried how they'll afford chicken, milk, and eggs.
I am noticing the same. where are the real protests? Where is the real meat?

I am getting sick and tired of this line.

The right-wing has no interest any more in gay rights. Beyond it being on the periphery of the grooming shit their interest in the actual meat of gay rights is basically nil. It doesn't create an absolute barrier like abortion since unlike abortion it doesn't leave any lasting harm since its actions exist between consenting adults.

As well, the court cases are utterly different. Roe wiled a right into being from thin air. Obergefell meanwhile has actually good grounding.
 
Categorically, the Supreme court doesn't address cases if they don't get brought up to them. And the plaintiffs of this particular case didn't offer a chance for a ruling that didn't strike down Roe or uphold it in full.

Don't play stupid games and you won't win stupid prizes.
 
Isn't it almost impossible to make smokeless powder by yourself?
Ye Olden Powder will still kill a deer dead.

But, on a little more...

With all of this "OH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A FAMINE!" screeching, trying to tell us in the West that we're going to have to go hungry, I believe THAT is what is going to kick everything off.

No, not high price of food. Not that we'll be putting a half or full handful of sawdust into the bread dough or meatloaf.

No, it'll be when we see all the food the Western nations produce going to China for sale.

And when we see it shipped to Africa for "World Aid" and the UN boasts about it.

I think that's what will make motherfucker's snap.

That our government will starve us out, break our ability to move around, and destroy our lives, but still send billions of dollars in weapons, food, and machinery to every other fucking country in the world.
 
I am noticing the same. where are the real protests? Where is the real meat?
My optimistic explanation is that people are tired from riots and distracted by kitchen table issues. My pessimistic explanation is that it doesn't seem "real" to people since nothing authoritative has actually happened, given it was a leak and not the actual decision. It's probably somewhere in the middle—dems and their proxies blowing their load too early before anything substantive has happened and people thinking about greater issues.
 
My optimistic explanation is that people are tired from riots and distracted by kitchen table issues. My pessimistic explanation is that it doesn't seem "real" to people since nothing authoritative has actually happened, given it was a leak and not the actual decision. It's probably somewhere in the middle—dems and their proxies blowing their load too early before anything substantive has happened and people thinking about greater issues.
I'd propose that it is something chatted about a while ago. Rittenhouse. His killing of two foot soldiers and maiming of one of their commanders put some real fear in. The commanders still want to go and are likely out in force... but the foot soldiers who no longer feel immortal aren't coming out in enough force to... do anything.
 
I am noticing the same. where are the real protests? Where is the real meat?
In every group of 10 protestors you have one violent anarchist that wants to destroy and you have 9 middle class tourists that want to "show they stand up for the right side of history".
These 9 tourists don't show up anymore because the economy.
And without the "fog" to hide in the anarchists won't do much destruction either.
 
I don't think abortion is going to be as animating as everything costing twice as much as it did a year ago. You literally won't be able to afford thinking about getting pregnant in the coming months, much less abortion. I honestly think if there was going to be a summer of love part 2 from the Roe stuff, we would have seen more than some screeching protests and a molotov cocktail thrown in a Madison, Wisconsin office. Maybe this sets off some spurts of small-scale terrorism against minor targets in commie land, but that doesn't really help the left. Especially when, again, people are actually worried how they'll afford chicken, milk, and eggs.
Think back to the original Days of Rage. 1972. Right after the recession of 69-70. The Antifa of the time had got it in their indoctrinated little commie brains that the US was ripe for a Marxist revolution and all they had to do is set off some bombs -- say, ~100 a month for a year or two -- to trigger the mass uprising that surely would have followed. After all, everyone agreed with them, right?

If and when the economy crashes with no survivors, I'm FULLY expecting the left to think "it's time" and quintuple down, demanding UBI and other Marxist crap. And when that doesn't happen, I'm fully expecting pipe bombs to start going off.
 
As well, the court cases are utterly different. Roe wiled a right into being from thin air. Obergefell meanwhile has actually good grounding.
Not really. it's pretty much based on Lawrence v Texas, which is itself based on Roe, Griswold, and the other SDP cases. Kennedy literally spends 5 or 6 pages talking about the history of marriage in a desperate attempt to justify how gay marriage is some fundamental right alongside heterosexual marriage.
 
Not really. it's pretty much based on Lawrence v Texas, which is itself based on Roe, Griswold, and the other SDP cases. Kennedy literally spends 5 or 6 pages talking about the history of marriage in a desperate attempt to justify how gay marriage is some fundamental right alongside heterosexual marriage.
The key and best arguments for it lie within the equal protection clause. Which is not founded in Roe. Namely, the government has no overriding secular purpose to recognize straight marriage over gay marriage.
 
I am getting sick and tired of this line.

The right-wing has no interest any more in gay rights. Beyond it being on the periphery of the grooming shit their interest in the actual meat of gay rights is basically nil. It doesn't create an absolute barrier like abortion since unlike abortion it doesn't leave any lasting harm since its actions exist between consenting adults.

As well, the court cases are utterly different. Roe wiled a right into being from thin air. Obergefell meanwhile has actually good grounding.
To the left, deep down, Identity doesn't REALLY matter except as a shield to hide behind and a sword to strike your enemies with. They can leap between black/Jewish/Muslim/gay/trans/obese without changing their stride. Infamously Crowder(?) went to a women's march and called one of them fat and she had a complete meltdown, screaming RACIST at him. Because identities don't REALLY matter to them, just like insults all ultimately mean BAD PERSON, NOT OF TRIBE to them. To wit: None of them REALLY care about the Black Experience in America. They care that the Black Identity is a very useful chain to keep a large number of people on the plantation, as long as the left controls that identity.

It's been my experience with the right that they don't REALLY care about gay rights either way (which, as a sensible moderate position, is even worse than opposing it to the left) -- but the grooming shit hits home and appears to confirm the warnings from the Christians in the 80s. Makes me wonder if previous societies -- don't say Sodom and Gomorrah -- had their own little "gay acceptance" movements and discovered too late that it just opened the door for grooming predators.
 
The key and best arguments for it lie within the equal protection clause. Which is not founded in Roe. Namely, the government has no overriding secular purpose to recognize straight marriage over gay marriage.
Fair, but while that may be enough to save it from Roes ignominious fate, it's still not enough to say its a reasoned decision. Plus, the SDP bits are like a solid 90% of the majority ruling.
 
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The Missouri Senate on Monday passed an extensive election integrity bill.

The new law requires a photo ID for voting.

Senator Bob Onder announced on Facebook that the new election law bans drop boxes, ballot harvesting, and Zuckerbucks.

Missouri House Bill HB1878 was passed tonight by the Missouri State Senate.


No fortifying 2022 this time, guys. Not only that, they got voter ID, despite that being an unholy sin in the eyes of the left.

Makes me wonder what bold new rigging they'll think up for 2024.
 
I don't think abortion is going to be as animating as everything costing twice as much as it did a year ago. You literally won't be able to afford thinking about getting pregnant in the coming months, much less abortion. I honestly think if there was going to be a summer of love part 2 from the Roe stuff, we would have seen more than some screeching protests and a molotov cocktail thrown in a Madison, Wisconsin office. Maybe this sets off some spurts of small-scale terrorism against minor targets in commie land, but that doesn't really help the left. Especially when, again, people are actually worried how they'll afford chicken, milk, and eggs.

There's a Democrat in office. The radical factions won't be let loose. It'd reflect poorly on the current administration.
 
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The Missouri Senate on Monday passed an extensive election integrity bill.

The new law requires a photo ID for voting.

Senator Bob Onder announced on Facebook that the new election law bans drop boxes, ballot harvesting, and Zuckerbucks.

Missouri House Bill HB1878 was passed tonight by the Missouri State Senate.


No fortifying 2022 this time, guys. Not only that, they got voter ID, despite that being an unholy sin in the eyes of the left.

Makes me wonder what bold new rigging they'll think up for 2024.
All those checks don't matter if you control the vote counters. At least, theoretically. But that also requires the other branches of the state to stay silent when inevitable complaints are filed.

I expect that'd be their hail mary for 2024.
 
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The Missouri Senate on Monday passed an extensive election integrity bill.

The new law requires a photo ID for voting.

Senator Bob Onder announced on Facebook that the new election law bans drop boxes, ballot harvesting, and Zuckerbucks.

Missouri House Bill HB1878 was passed tonight by the Missouri State Senate.


No fortifying 2022 this time, guys. Not only that, they got voter ID, despite that being an unholy sin in the eyes of the left.

Makes me wonder what bold new rigging they'll think up for 2024.
Can't wait for the DNC to have historically low turn out in 24.

Seriously though, we'll never really know if it's because of these election integrity measures or because the Joe's fanatic performance in the white house.
 
I'd propose that it is something chatted about a while ago. Rittenhouse. His killing of two foot soldiers and maiming of one of their commanders put some real fear in. The commanders still want to go and are likely out in force... but the foot soldiers who no longer feel immortal aren't coming out in enough force to... do anything.
"Kyle Rittenhouse, I don't use the word 'hero' very often. But you are the greatest hero in American history."

-Lionel Hutz probably
 
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