Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

[cheese burger69]

I'm assuming mentions of the lowest circle are just anecdotes they've heard and assumed it was actually from scripture

What's worse is that you can tell people have never actually read it or know the connotation put behind Dante's words. If you've actually gone in-depth into Dante's Divine Comedy, and more specifically, Inferno, the context behind the ultimate, final circle of the last layer of hell is not betrayal in itself, but betrayal against "God's Design." The reason for Brutus' (the most cited member) being there is that Brutus committed treachery upon what Dante viewed as the centralization and apex of God's design on Earth, an entity of power that would supposedly last forever after its founding: The Roman Empire.
This is but a minute part of mis-interpretation of the Comedy, but the most apt, since it is the most popular and wide-spread. When people state bullshit like "the final circle of hell is for the treacherous," you can tell that they do not actually know the breadth of Dante's Divine Comedy, because they would know this if they had read it. Sorry for the spergout, I have been meaning to share this but did not know when it was fitting, and will retract if it is too sperg-y.

Apologetic Edit: I thought about it some more, and here is a take tying to Nick's known egotism and theistic views. If Fuentes has actually read it, and compares his situation to martyrdom or Inferno's context of treachery whilst understanding Dante's interpretation of Christianity, this would definitively mean that Fuentes is genuinely deluded into preemptively assessing himself as an instrument of divine will, when, under his own teachings (which he, by Simon's account is apparently non-pious towards), it cannot be known unless his actions do in fact spiritually aid the will of god in the long run. If it may be summarized by increasing pious believers to reap their souls to heaven prior to the day of judgement, Nick's actions go against this, as he does not pursue the creation of large families. In good faith, he egotistically slothfully works in his own interests, claims he is a martyr, and leads young men to ruination. In a more skeptical light, Fuentes captures naïve and good people with his charisma into a cult of personality (as he tries to emulate stalin and the Pop-figure Kanye West), and tosses them aside when they are no longer useful, or slight him in any manner. In all, this is a dangerous person who should not be associated with.

 

[ChuckSneeder]

I doubt they know who Dante was or know of any parts of The Divine Comedy. I'm assuming mentions of the lowest circle are just anecdotes they've heard and assumed it was actually from scripture, since to a layman, the English translations of Dante's Divine Comedy could pass for scripture to someone with no prior knowledge. However, if you look at Inferno as a work of fiction, it feels somewhat like a Greek epic poem.

They probably know Dante from Devil May Cry Series

 

[Caligura]

Y'know KF, I wonder. If this truly is the end for AF (end for AF in terms of relevance, let's be honest as long Nick keeps streaming to even only 5 people, in his mind AF is still 'alive'), I do fear the 'power vacuum' that will be set once the time comes. Going to be annoying having to deal with ex-groypers in the next few years in every vaguely right-wing space trying to still push cancerous bits into every moment, like its the catboy curse!

 

[Cat Attack]

Just got around to listening this:

Ramzpaul actually has some good points, I thought he was just some old crusty sperg. He attended Ralph's little gay bowling party, all things considered.
- AF is similar to alt-right in terms of optics
- Obsession over "women evil" rather than "da jooz"
- Emphasises that "not all women are evil and da jooz aren't to blame for everything"
- Louie Theroux documentary was a disaster
- Plotting men and women as opposing groups is the problem with modernity... Okay Ramz Chinanet anti-feminists sends you some regards.
- Flying Russian flag on an "America First" platform is a bad look
- Incel is stupid, Putin cockriding is stupid
- Stalinism resulted in the death of White Christians, not based (look up the Christian purge under Stalin)
- He's basically saying that AF has shit optics, likely subverted controlled opposition and gatekeepers
- Disavows rape threats and mocking the death of Christians
- Ramz didn't mention the mockery of junior victims in that Black nationalist terror attack in Waukesha
- (Above was when I turned from mocking AF to actually despising them).
- No mention of Ethan Oliver Ralph, still a guntguard at heart
Okay so Ramz seems like a well-spoken and chill guy and made some very reasonable points. Good for him. How will Ralph take this "dissing" of his catboy owner?

To summarize the most coherent point this guy made "Do you want to be a bunch of edgy irony bros who play video games and say shocking things to trigger people because you think that's cool or do you want to be a legitimate Christian political movement, because you can't be both." Pretty clear AF has been accelerating towards edgy gamer bro streaming network for a while now at the cost of everything else and I'm glad that isn't lost on people that would normally consider them allies.

 

[CometBop]

Yeah, see here's the thing, the Republican Party exists to get out in front of Whitey's response to, say, Coca-Cola's "Be Less White," mandatory employee training, as well as everyone's response to, say, child trannies, and make absolutely sure that goes nowhere and you get nothing. The reason why the "wignats," where by wignats I mean normal sized heterosexuals all got banned from twatter and YouTube literally years before Faggot Fuentes was because we had figured this out about the Republican Party and were fighting hard against it.

The "political solution," is starting your own political party and doing it that way, not LARPing like the Catboi Fuhrer secretly has some in with the Gay Old Party.

This is a critical part of the dissident grift: the world is falling apart and only I(niche ineffective political party) can save you. don't be confused NJP or Patriot Front may be less outwardly retarded then AF, but being the coolest kid surrounded by losers isn't actually a win.

Y'know KF, I wonder. If this truly is the end for AF (end for AF in terms of relevance, let's be honest as long Nick keeps streaming to even only 5 people, in his mind AF is still 'alive'), I do fear the 'power vacuum' that will be set once the time comes. Going to be annoying having to deal with ex-groypers in the next few years in every vaguely right-wing space trying to still push cancerous bits into every moment, like its the catboy curse!

look at where sargon is today. I personally think Nick will be able to resist the steady decline better then sargon did because Nick occaisioanlly has wins here and there (getting on destinys stream or the abortion cathedral protest recently) but its undeniable. at current rates by 2023 hes gonna be streaming to sub1000 people

what i think is more interesting though is how hes completely unable to get his new viewers to buy into AF. I mean you see some groypers counter protesting in front of church looking good then you get online and see "KILL RAPE MURDER FOR NICK" and then nick goes off on women for the 10th time that night and theyd run a mile away. Which is if they even get past the russian flag on "america first"

 

[Me262PrinceOfTurboJet]

They probably know Dante from Devil May Cry Series

I highly doubt that. That series was before their time and was actually amazing before their time. I doubt Zoomers played DMC1&DMC3. I doubt they even played DMC4.

 

[SpicSpeigel]

I have a very simple theory .
Nick is not on the closet nor out of it.
He just doesn't know he should be there. To begin with.
He is pretty young and it's not uncommon for someone of his age to come to certain realizations at that age.
Probably he is slowly starting to realize that he is gay and doesn't know how to deal with that.
His spiraling down and trying to make a whole bunch of anti-woman incels is a way of justifying his own homosexuality at a unconscious level , as to say "I'm not the only one like that , so that means I'm not gay"
Also we don't know what level of influence milo had on this kid. Also it would probably be bad received by his followers if he came out as gay or something , so his financial incentive is directly tied to his sexual orientation.

 

[Caligura]

I highly doubt that. That series was before their time and was actually amazing before their time. I doubt Zoomers played DMC1&DMC3. I doubt they even played DMC4.

The thought of AFags being aware of that Dante meme, therefore being aware of Shin Megami Tensei is just so cursed that I refuse to even think it could exist. They probably couldn't even get past Matador either way lol.

 

[Wash away the rain]

I have a very simple theory .
Nick is not on the closet nor out of it.
He just doesn't know he should be there. To begin with.
He is pretty young and it's not uncommon for someone of his age to come to certain realizations at that age.
Probably he is slowly starting to realize that he is gay and doesn't know how to deal with that.
His spiraling down and trying to make a whole bunch of anti-woman incels is a way of justifying his own homosexuality at a unconscious level , as to say "I'm not the only one like that , so that means I'm not gay"
Also we don't know what level of influence milo had on this kid. Also it would probably be bad received by his followers if he came out as gay or something , so his financial incentive is directly tied to his sexual orientation.

Nah his anti woman shit is definitely a result of being sexually abused by an older female relative his trust issues with women and comments about how they are pedos and his sexual repulsion at the idea of any woman even touching him is a sign.

 

[Rage Pig]

Black Light sold separately

 

[Rosy Reptile]

So lemme see if I understand this correctly.

Nick runs an organization targeted at an audience of young men, isolates them socially through ideology and other means, and gathers compromising information on them to hold over their heads and blackmail them with later. This organization strictly enforces incel/r9k ideology, which is a known pipeline to transgenderism and homosexuality. At the top of this organization, there's a twitter sex weirdo secret police and half-naked tickle parties.

When we put the pieces together, what does it look like this is about? What sort of machine has these parts? Is America First not just a Fed honeypot, but a grooming operation? Is it both? Is there a difference?

 

[Evilronald]

Y'know KF, I wonder. If this truly is the end for AF (end for AF in terms of relevance, let's be honest as long Nick keeps streaming to even only 5 people, in his mind AF is still 'alive'), I do fear the 'power vacuum' that will be set once the time comes. Going to be annoying having to deal with ex-groypers in the next few years in every vaguely right-wing space trying to still push cancerous bits into every moment, like its the catboy curse!

The right needs a new tardwrangler to take Nick’s place, who can prevent the kind of damage that MTG and Madison Cawthorn cause by saying stupid shit. Policy-wise, they’re way better than a lot of republicans by opposing the war machine and immigration, but they can’t go more than a few days without doing or saying something fucking stupid. It seems impossible to have a right-wing populist who doesn’t have a serious problem with needing to attention-whore.

 

[FightenGnome]

From the Killstream:
Nick compares what happened between him and Jaiden to the movie Casino, portrays Jaiden as a jilted lover of sorts
Nick is upset that Jaiden "betrayed" him after all of the "intimate" moments they shared
Nick says he was "heart broken" after watching Kino Casino

idk kinda sus...

Do you mean seeing Jaden as like Joe Pesci or something or as the woman in it? Nick is so sexually confused I can imagine him interpreting it either way.

I'm a little surprised that ramzpaul was openly critical of Cum Hunter and America First. Generally, even until recently, he's been pretty supportive of Fuentes and America First. I couldn't decide whether it was mostly due to not wanting to punch right or because he was just ignorant of most of the drama, or some combination of the two. Also his girlfriend or whatever she is has been pretty supportive of Baked Alaska, going as far as to say many times that he's the type of guy she'd have hung out with when she was younger which is... lol.

If any girl you're going out with tells you that Baked Alaska is the kind of guy she would/did/would want to hang out with, you may want to reconsider that relationship.

 

[sylvan_wanderer]

Even the TRS boys know that Patrick Casey (Reinhardt Wolff) is responsible for the Red Ice website user database leak.

TDS891 at ~ 01:15:00 (sorry, unable to clip) here's the full audio

https://therightstuff.biz/podcast-download/73633/tds891-america-felted.mp3

EDIT

Catbox upload https://files.catbox.moe/v1rqho.mp3

 

[Arditi]

I have decided to finally make an account on this hellhole of a website. I have been lurking for some time now, reading what some of my (supposed) colleagues have written. I will be sharing my story in the coming days, and I feel many more will be as well.

 

[Null]

ok fine fuck it I'll make a board.

 

[Null]

This thread is about Nick Fuentes.

https://kiwifarms.st/forums/catboy-deconversion-therapy.126/

Board discussion: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/meta-thread.118657/
ex-AF Discussion: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/deconversion-general.118662/
Groyper general: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/groypers-america-first-followers.38314/

If I missed moving any threads over, please notify me. Post it in meta.

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

Seeing Fuentes turn into what he is now was one of the biggest blackpills of the last 2 years.

Say what you want but his start was very promising. His format used to be more mature and in a way more alt-rightish than it is now but without
that weird white trash energy a lot of the other e-celebs had. If you look at his base during Groyper Wars 2019, you could clearly tell
that if the same movement would have grown, it might have actually had some kind of positive effect on society. For a guy of his age, his ability was almost
unreal. He was the only guy to actually be able to win debates. While spergs like Spencer and Allsup were nothing but a bad joke, Fuentes was truly
the knife. That was also the time when Metokur or guys like Sam Hyde approved his content.

I truly wonder what happened.

It is very obvious that right wing ideologies in their early stages attract people with more abnormal brains. A normal brainwashed NPC would not be able to go off at jewish power after years of brainwashing. That is where narcissist e-celebs come in... The people who dox themselves in order to spearhead movements like this all tend to be insane to some kind of extend. Otherwise they would settle for an anonymous format (in my opinion some of the more normal guys tend to be anonymous). To me it was always clear that Nick had some kind of mental issues, but I did not really mind it as his movement started out very promising and fresh. Guys like Jaden and Simon truly would have sacrificed everything for this movement and I believe that if they would have done more IRL stuff, they could have been much much bigger. Fuentes surely knows how to stir up attention and I have no clue what truly happened to him in the last years. Is it just that his greed and comfort took over? Was he approached by the actual powers that be?

Something in his eyes seems more hopeless and careless. His gratitude and hope, which I truly believe he possesed, seems to be gone.
All this anti-woman stuff is not optical at all and his lack of self awareness is truly mindblowing. I liked most of his 2019 women takes, and I think most guys could relate.
But now he turned into a twink incel faggot, who talks way too much about Spongebob and Star Wars in effort to attract some weird affemiate faggots.

When did he turn into such a wigger faggot? It seems like all of his bad characteristics got worse, and the good ones vanished.

My guess is either all fame and fortune got to him and blew up his latent narc tendencies, or the feds did. He is on the no-fly list, and in league with other glowing figures like baked alaska; I could imagine Spic being sat down in a dark room with a couple glowniggers telling him to crash and burn in minecraft or they'll do it to him IRL.

 

[pharaohwewuz]

Even the TRS boys know that Patrick Casey (Reinhardt Wolff) is responsible for the Red Ice website user database leak.

TDS891 at ~ 01:15:00 (sorry, unable to clip) here's the full audio

https://therightstuff.biz/podcast-download/73633/tds891-america-felted.mp3

EDIT

Catbox upload https://files.catbox.moe/v1rqho.mp3

Kinda off topic but you gotta love how the innocent TRS commenters reacted to the first sight of PPP in all his mustard glory:

https://therightstuff.biz/2022/05/09/tds891-america-felted/comment-page-1/#comments
https://archive.md/S43t6

 

[Smarty Pants]

Even the TRS boys know that Patrick Casey (Reinhardt Wolff) is responsible for the Red Ice website user database leak.

TDS891 at ~ 01:15:00 (sorry, unable to clip) here's the full audio

https://therightstuff.biz/podcast-download/73633/tds891-america-felted.mp3

EDIT

Catbox upload https://files.catbox.moe/v1rqho.mp3

They talked about some interesting alt-right drama relating to Andrew Anglin and Spencer that I've never heard talked about. Too bad they don't want to delve further into drama because Moike is privy to a lot of unknown lore.