Homosexuality and the danger of parasitical thoughts. - A schizo rambling

Am I losing it, or does this somewhat make sense?

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Agreed. I genuinely do feel sorry for kids who have to grow up in that environment. Hyperfixation on sexual orientation should be the last thing a kid has to deal with, but it's so hard to escape these days.

It's quite telling that many teenagers will announce their "sexual orientation" before ever having had any actual sexual encounters. As in, not even kissing or hand-holding.

The fire and brimstone people always know just enough to convince themselves they have all the answers.

I'm assuming what you're saying is based upon a reductionist view of the process of natural selection and genetic inheritance. It is propagation of your associated genes that's what counts, not you personally reproducing.
You personally reproducing then aiding your children in survival and reproduction will be the best way to make that happen, but, say, your siblings are going to share a pretty major portion of your genetic information, around 50% most times.

And a very telling aspect of homosexuality is that fraternal birth order is a significant predictor of homosexuality (so the more older brothers you have the more likely you are to be gay), but that isn't present in women. That would make sense, because men can have many children where as women are limited, meaning if you have a bunch of brothers it would be more genetically efficacious to, rather than engage in mate competition, simply have one of the brothers be gay and in turn help take care of already existing kids to increase their long term survival and outcomes.

To that gay dude, who is going to be younger, less established, and less able to compete, he's going to potentially be better off gay.

Natural selection in social species tends to happen much more on a group basis, so just because one person can't or doesn't want to reproduce, that doesn't suddenly make them an evolutionary non-object.


Anyways, at this point you can't buy a single plank of wood without emptying your bank account and taking out a loan to pay for the gas to drive to get it, why the fuck are people sitting around mulling over gay sex? Shit's creepy, there's something not quite right there.

I don't know about the theory that being gay = more childcare help. Do fags usually help their siblings raise kids? Not that I am aware of. I do think it's generally true that homosexuality is more likely when one is unlikely to succeed in finding a heterosexual mate, though.

The deeper our society falls into shit, the more the morality of the Bible makes sense even to irreligious people. With the LGBT movement now being the forerunners of normalized pedophilia in society, I wonder how many people are thinking "you know, maybe the Bible had a point."

Every generation has that set of people who believe that they have discovered some kind of grand moral truth for the first time in history. Turns out sexual degeneracy has been with us all along and our ancestors were well aware of the dangers it presents.

Then what do you do with those deviants if they are not to be tolerated?


It is, but my next statement is simply "So?" What do you do with it?

What do we typically do with people who consume child pornography? To give an example of a form of sexual deviancy that is currently considered intolerable (possibly the last remaining sexual taboo that remains intact, actually).

But we hear "I always knew I was trans" more and more....

Yes, this is a necessary qualifier for anyone being inducted into the tranny pseudo-cult, because it is important to deny the notion that anyone can be "turned trans" as opposed to the "born that way" narrative which is much more convenient for supporting a victimhood/discrimination narrative. Same trick that was pulled by fags.

But you're also loosely throwing down conclusions based on shaky evidence. I'm not trying to  gotcha by stating this, but there isn't really a lot we have to go off of. There are just many correlations that we can draw and that's about it. It is without question, though, that a species that would breed itself into homosexuality (genetic argument) or a species that would fool itself into homosexuality (environment argument) would inevitably reach a reproductive peak and fall from there. Fortunately there are enough people that this isn't an issue for humans, but it is undeniable that if a significant portion of all men and women were gay, we'd be toast if not for things such as surrogacy and IVF. It is by this notion alone that I believe homosexuality is a negative genomic trait; it hinders the most basic instinct a living being has to reproduce.

Homosexuality is a mental defect, same as trooning. Just because you feel as normal as I do doesn't mean there isn't something inherently flawed inside you.

The issue with sexuality, orientation, and genderspecialization is that these ideas prey on the most vulnerable and take advantage of them. This is where I begin to agree with OP. Society/people have taken these terms and used them to build their identity. Teenagers are often the most fraught with identity issues and having such a strong moral issue to band together on, that also helps to explain away all of your life problems is highly attractive and I would go as far as saying extremely dangerous. We say kids are impressionable and I don't think we stress this enough, especially for boys who finish developing later than women on average, and therefore are more susceptible to toxic thoughts like their identity in regards to their orientation (hint: they aren't connected). Cluster B Disorders are also on the rise which has a foundational hallmark of an underdeveloped ego or sense of self.

When being heckin' special, loving the blacks, and having a snowflake identity is the norm, many more suggestible people fall victim to the idea that they may be something they aren't.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in media. You can't seriously tell me that you've been around that many fags in your life without also being one.

Actually, among young people/teenagers, the trend towards trooning is overwhelmingly female. As in, most people who troon in that age group are biological girls who suddenly claim to be "trans men." It follows the pattern of social contagion observed in previous behavioral disorders such as cutting or anorexia.
 
But you're also loosely throwing down conclusions based on shaky evidence. I'm not trying to  gotcha by stating this, but there isn't really a lot we have to go off of. There are just many correlations that we can draw and that's about it. It is without question, though, that a species that would breed itself into homosexuality (genetic argument) or a species that would fool itself into homosexuality (environment argument) would inevitably reach a reproductive peak and fall from there. Fortunately there are enough people that this isn't an issue for humans, but it is undeniable that if a significant portion of all men and women were gay, we'd be toast if not for things such as surrogacy and IVF. It is by this notion alone that I believe homosexuality is a negative genomic trait; it hinders the most basic instinct a living being has to reproduce.

Homosexuality is a mental defect, same as trooning. Just because you feel as normal as I do doesn't mean there isn't something inherently flawed inside you.

The issue with sexuality, orientation, and genderspecialization is that these ideas prey on the most vulnerable and take advantage of them. This is where I begin to agree with OP. Society/people have taken these terms and used them to build their identity. Teenagers are often the most fraught with identity issues and having such a strong moral issue to band together on, that also helps to explain away all of your life problems is highly attractive and I would go as far as saying extremely dangerous. We say kids are impressionable and I don't think we stress this enough, especially for boys who finish developing later than women on average, and therefore are more susceptible to toxic thoughts like their identity in regards to their orientation (hint: they aren't connected). Cluster B Disorders are also on the rise which has a foundational hallmark of an underdeveloped ego or sense of self.

When being heckin' special, loving the blacks, and having a snowflake identity is the norm, many more suggestible people fall victim to the idea that they may be something they aren't.

Homosexuals are overrepresented in media. You can't seriously tell me that you've been around that many fags in your life without also being one.
Yes but it's not quite so simple. Men are evolution's plaything, and a lot of men do not need to reproduce (other men can just double up, our gonads have a lot of ammo). Everyone knows there was a time in prehistory when 17 women passed their genes for each man. Unless all of the other 16 men are just going to get killed off, they need something to live for so they can keep being contributing members of the species (and not constantly plotting to kill the chads in their sleep). Homosexuality fills that void.

I'm not even saying I believe this, just that it would make some sense. Gay shit being a grand cope for guys who can't get laid with women would explain a lot of what is going on.

Edit: fixed my fuck up about the genders
 
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Yes but it's not quite so simple. Men are evolution's plaything, and a lot of men do not need to reproduce (other men can just double up, our gonads have a lot of ammo). Everyone knows there was a time in prehistory when 17 women passed their genes for each man. Unless all of the other 16 men are just going to get killed off, they need something to live for so they can keep being contributing members of the species (and not constantly plotting to kill the chads in their sleep). Homosexuality fills that void.

I'm not even saying I believe this, just that it would make some sense. Gay shit being a grand cope for guys who can't get laid with women would explain a lot of what is going on.

Edit: fixed my fuck up about the genders
The reason that 17 women passed on their genes for every male is more complicated than just those 16 men not having children, but it's likely most of them died off before they could pass on their genes. The bottleneck you are referencing happened about 8000 years ago, just as agriculture and large settled populations became the norm. If we look at archeological evidence the health of most humans decreased after the advent of agriculture. People were less healthy, they had more bone diseases and more malnutrition. This affects a males ability to procreate. It's also likely that many died young before they could father children. This was also a time of previously unprecedented warfare during the advent of large kingdoms. Thousands died in massive battles. Then there is the construction projects in large cities that were becoming common. Men do most of the dangerous work, especially young men without families. A good chunk of the 16 was probably lost to farming and construction accidents.

The advent of agriculture and urban living was a massive change in the human environment and the skills that were needed to survive were different than those in previous human history. It's likely that those males whose genes did survive had genes that were more advantageous to the new norm. Those 16 men (a few of them at least who didn't die) did have children, but they're genes were not advantageous to the new environment, so they're genetic lines died off or or were subsumed by the successful males offspring. This is the same explanation for Mitochondrial Eve.

It's incredibly unlikely that bottleneck is due to homosexuality or polyandry. Polyandry is historically a response to too few males in harsh environments. If there is a large pool of unmarried men they tend to overthrow those hogging all the pussy. This is why polygamous Mormons kick the young men out of the community. Homosexuality is a response to too few females or a long time spent away from them (like off on war campaigns or on board ships).
 
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>>What do we typically do with people who consume child pornography? To give an example of a form of sexual deviancy that is currently considered intolerable (possibly the last remaining sexual taboo that remains intact, actually).

Prison time then? We're gonna need some major upgrades, funding, and overhauling to the system then to successfully process that many.

The deeper our society falls into shit, the more the morality of the Bible makes sense even to irreligious people. With the LGBT movement now being the forerunners of normalized pedophilia in society, I wonder how many people are thinking "you know, maybe the Bible had a point."
Even if I did agree with it on "Kill all fags", there's a whole lot of other things it doesn't make sense on.

Do you, for example, want to start arresting and executing everyone who wears more than one type of fabric, eats shellfish, or works on Sunday?
 
Makes me lol how easily everyone will be up in arms about Troon propaganda but as soon as you suggest homosexuality is the other side of the same coin, all hell breaks loose. If your Chinese little girl cartoons didn't have so many fag characters you'd all be on board.
I observed this, too. I can only conclude that "gay = good" was something they worked very, very hard on instilling in the last few generations. It's considered ridiculous to question it or point out the problems in "gay culture".
Perhaps a compromise could be reached where we try to avoid raising homos but the ones who can't be helped are peacefully shipped off to live out their days in a happy place with other homos (and no children). Like the Greek island Lesbos, but male.
Lesbos was married to a man and mostly did her thing via molesting and raping her child students. That's a reoccuring thing in ancient homosexuality: a shitton of kid diddling.
 
I observed this, too. I can only conclude that "gay = good" was something they worked very, very hard on instilling in the last few generations. It's considered ridiculous to question it or point out the problems in "gay culture".
I don't hate gays but it's disingenuous to suggest that homosexuality is anything other than a flaw. Every response is a cope. Just because humans socially procreate doesn't make homosexuality a non-flaw. Just because homosexuals feel normal doesn't make it a non-flaw. Just because you can make up reasons that gays fit into some bizarre evolutionary timeline where they are necessary, it's still a flaw in this timeline. There is zero necessity for it. If it's genetic, it's clearly a negative traits as it hinders the likelihood to procreate. If it's environmental, it's the result of an environment lacking the things that make a person whole and typical, or it is often a hedonistic lifestyle where sex is an object.

Should we also move on to increased likelihood of disease and lower life expectancy?
 
@Goth Commie In response to the comment on my profile.

It's not brainwashing per-se, it's more of just a thought that you cannot get out of your head, similar to an ear-worm type song, and the more it rings around, the more questions you have, but there is no real answer, and the questions make you jump through hoops to get "answers" when in reality, the thought itself has no redeeming qualities, you learn nothing beneficial, and it only leads you down an endless path of questions that break down your rational core until you just start to agree with them, because you cannot construct a logical argument, as the thoughts are not based on logic, but emotional manipulation.

These ideas are made to be used on someone who is more easily manipulated, such as children going through puberty, or adults who have cracked under pressure. They think the answer to their unhappiness/strange feelings is that they are gay/trans/ect, but often-times they do not end up happy, and the fleeting sense of happiness they do gain, is a placebo effect caused by the dopamine they get from being "validated". Eventually they either kill themselves, or kill their main personality, in favor of the gay alter-ego they created through those parasitical thoughts. This combined with constant positive broadcasts for these behaviors, while any criticism or negativity is snuffed out and called "hate speech", they are led to being under the impression that they are on the "right side of history".

A big problem is that so many of the people effected, have usually never even touched a woman, nor had any intimate connection with one. Some will think "vaginas are gross" without even seeing one in real life, this could be considered a "cope" as they are doubting themselves or truly believe they can not get a female lover, therefore with all the doubting they have solidified these feelings. This could be compacted with ideas like "I don't want this to be misinterpreted as sexual harassment." so they never try to flirt with a girl. I also personally believe that online dating has been harmful towards the development of intimate healthy relationships.
 
I also personally believe that online dating has been harmful towards the development of intimate healthy relationships.
Right there with you. I don't understand how a website/video/newspaper ad advertising how desperate and alone you are can lead to good relationships. It's all people so desperate for an emotional or romantic connection that they'll throw reason out the window to get some snatch/dick. It's also really bad to be able to pick potential partners as if you were choosing which pornstar to watch. You no longer need to develop, grow, learn, or cooperate, you just find the most fuckable person who is also a doormat to your opinions.
 
@Goth Commie In response to the comment on my profile.

It's not brainwashing per-se, it's more of just a thought that you cannot get out of your head, similar to an ear-worm type song, and the more it rings around, the more questions you have, but there is no real answer, and the questions make you jump through hoops to get "answers" when in reality, the thought itself has no redeeming qualities, you learn nothing beneficial, and it only leads you down an endless path of questions that break down your rational core until you just start to agree with them, because you cannot construct a logical argument, as the thoughts are not based on logic, but emotional manipulation.

These ideas are made to be used on someone who is more easily manipulated, such as children going through puberty, or adults who have cracked under pressure. They think the answer to their unhappiness/strange feelings is that they are gay/trans/ect, but often-times they do not end up happy, and the fleeting sense of happiness they do gain, is a placebo effect caused by the dopamine they get from being "validated". Eventually they either kill themselves, or kill their main personality, in favor of the gay alter-ego they created through those parasitical thoughts. This combined with constant positive broadcasts for these behaviors, while any criticism or negativity is snuffed out and called "hate speech", they are led to being under the impression that they are on the "right side of history".

A big problem is that so many of the people effected, have usually never even touched a woman, nor had any intimate connection with one. Some will think "vaginas are gross" without even seeing one in real life, this could be considered a "cope" as they are doubting themselves or truly believe they can not get a female lover, therefore with all the doubting they have solidified these feelings. This could be compacted with ideas like "I don't want this to be misinterpreted as sexual harassment." so they never try to flirt with a girl. I also personally believe that online dating has been harmful towards the development of intimate healthy relationships.

I've never heard a guy claim to be gay because he's never talked to a woman or doubts he could attract one. I don't think there are more gay people around than before. Many people claiming to "gay" these days are heterosexual (i.e., male "lesbians" and TIF fujoshis). Sexual orientation isn't a vague or nebulous concept like gender identity is, because sexual orientation involves actually having to be attracted to certain people. Someone without a strong sense of self can be convinced they're transgender because they don't fit gender stereotypes. I've never heard a guy say he was gay unless he was exclusively or almost exclusively attracted to men.
 
Look guys. Homosexuality is really not very complicated. It's easy to get into if you put your mind to it, at least at an abstract 2D level.

Most if not all men are capable of some degree of sexual vanity. Typically, that's pandered to by female attention. Pleasing a woman, getting sexual praise from her etc is one of the more normative ways that men are validated as sexual beings, and many tend to get off on it. They want to feel like the Mars to her Venus, or the bull in an NTR doujin. It's not hard to wrap your head around.

The next step is autoandrophilia, which is basically the above but without a woman present. You no longer need Venus to have Mars. You don't need both the positive and the negative to get the electrical current flowing, or the soil to make the seed fertile. The male is seen as potent even without the female. It's more like an active volcano (excuse the phallic imagery). This is obviously a delusion, but through suspension of disbelief it is possible.

Once that door is open, homosexuality is just a collection of active volcanoes who are independently potent without the need of an opposite. If you do want a dynamic to enhance it, though, any number of dyads based on relations of power are possible.

Once this is understood, it's just a matter of pushing back the deep-seated human revulsion to violating God's order and retarding your ability to form comradery with your fellow man. There's a reason why when a lot of guys are getting into it they refuse to look at anything with the face, or they stick strictly to sanitized furry stuff. When you see his face you realize that's not Mars, that's someone who could have been your brother.

As far as "parasitic thoughts" go, you're describing demonic influence. Read Unseen Warfare. There's an extent to which the state and other organizations mirror it, but a lot of conspiracy stuff is people with an atheistic or materialist background trying to describe phenomena of the spiritual world. They end up thinking Jews or the WEF literally have their fingers in everyone's head because they're really thinking of Satan
 
This thread is a rediscovery of the concept of demons. "I don't hate you, but you're possessed, give me my friend back."
 
With apologies for not having read past page one and replying anyway. I'll try to read the rest of the thread after posting this.

TL;DR strongly disagree, but will try to politely discuss the reasons. FWIW, no edgyness or mockery in this reply, only genuine thoughts.

I think that homosexuality is a mentally transferable disease which can be contracted subconsciously through messages advertised in media.

Homosexuality has been documented to exist in pretty much every human culture that bothered to keep written records, way, *way* before than the concept of "[mass] media" even existed.

While I agree that mainstream media definitely has a position and an agenda regarding homosexuality (as part of the larger "woke" trend in current Western civilization), it is by no mens

Much like pretty much any aspect of individual human thought, one's position on sexualit *can* (and in the modern era, *is*) influenced by media. But being attracted to one's own sex is thoroughly established to (be able to) happen naturally, in the absence of any undue external influence.

I would like to refer to these advertisements as "parasitical thoughts", which is a thought which eats away at your beliefs, it dulls your rationality, and it makes you question your personality.

You might as well just refer to it as "modern mass media". It rather fits the bill, sadly.

It is not something that can be simply diagnosed,
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But it is in fact trivial to "diagnose". If you are attracted to your own sex, you are homosexual. Matters of "degree" and "but it is a spectrum" are all valid points of discussion for those so inclined, but to the degree that we are talking about getting an answer to "is this person homosexual", getting an answer is as easy as it gets - once you get past the issues of admitting, even to oneself, to something that is considered social stigma.

I truly believe there is a correlation between the increase in homosexuality for the newer generations, it is more artificial. It feels as if they are being steered into it rather than happening upon it themselves.

Because it *is* more artificial (at least that is my subjective opinion, too).

Many individuals and groups, from political parties to corporations, have realized that it benefits them to push those views at every opportunity, if in name only at least. It gains them much-needed PR standing with the community while being virtually unassailable by competition, because anyone who disagrees with their platform (which so happens to, among other things, "be an ally" of the [alphabet group]) must be homo-, trans-, whatever-phobic, or misogynistic, and therefore a Literal Nazi. It really isn't the case, but they'll very loudly and vocally shout that it is, and that you're a Nazi for even implying that they do not hold absolute truth, and that anyone who does business with you must also be a Literal Nazi by association, and then who will want that?

And, (and this is the point I was trying to make), they don't care that their constant bombardment and white-knighting of the issue will perhaps drive young, susceptible people to confusion over matters that they would (perhaps) not ever bothered themselves with.

Thankfully though, this ruse is getting very old, and more and more people are getting wise to it. But we still have many years ahead of us with this status quo.



This reply is getting long and rambling. But if there is one "takeaway" from this post that I'm trying to make, is this:

I think you're conflating the wider (, horrible, detestable) "woke"shit social movement, to the fact that one can, individually, say, rather prefer choking on dick than eating pussy, where bedroom affairs are concerned. Or other wider questions of identity and/or sexuality, where those questions are borne of organic introspection. The latter do not, by itself, imply any of the disgusting characteristics associated with the former.

Hate often stems in reaction to foreign, alien ideas. But such hate can sometimes be proven to be unfounded, and more worryingly, plenty of people will try to take advantage of that hate, and fuel it to steer you into behaving in ways you ordinarily wouldn't. Much of the nasty business that went down in the forties was facilitated in part that.

Homosexuality is something that I simply cannot understand, [...]



For the record, I'm not a faggot.
 
Interesting. I mean I do think that homosexuality, by very nature of being a deviation from a well established norm, is some sort of a defect. And I do agree that some people are pushing homosexuality itself way more than toleration of homosexuals. But I mean I don't know if I would call it a parasitical disease. It's important to remember that there is nothing wrong with having homosexual tendencies. What is wrong is acting on it. And I do think that the modern gay rights movement, by not advocating for celibacy, has made a major mistake and is doing a huge disservice to society at large. Then again, it's not like they're the first movement to do something like this.
 
I remember the theory had a story about a gay guy who went straight immediately after a bunch of worms or something were expelled.
Toxoplasmosis Gondii, Entomoeba Hystolytica, and Giardia lamblia are all often correlated with increased likelihood of homosexual or sexual deviant behaviour.


 
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