Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Hell on Earth]

Well only one or two call out the nazis over there mark Felton and history with hilbert who show yeah there are nazis over there. CH as well I almost forgot him.

I will pardon Mark Felton just because of the intro theme.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

They definitely already got their hands on a Javelin or two from espionage or black market years ago. The system is over 20 years old.

Especially since we used them throughout the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. No way a few dozen didn't "fall of the back of the truck". I'd be more surprised if they didn't have some for at least a decade.

 

[Josterman]

I will pardon Mark Felton just because of the intro theme.

Lol nice

 

[Hell on Earth]

Especially since we used them throughout the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. No way a few dozen didn't "fall of the back of the truck". I'd be more surprised if they didn't have some for at least a decade.

Yeah, but those used in Iraq were older versions of the Javelin, the Ukres have the newer as well as previous versions.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Especially since we used them throughout the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. No way a few dozen didn't "fall of the back of the truck". I'd be more surprised if they didn't have some for at least a decade.

I don't think anyone expects the secrets of standard issue infantry weapons will be kept for very long. You have to assume they just plan on the other side getting their hands on them and build extra trickery in to work around any countermeasures.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Yeah, but those used in Iraq were older versions of the Javelin, the Ukres have the newer as well as previous versions.

Still just an improved version of an over two decade old weapon that's been deployed for a few years. If you don't think the Russians and the Chinese don't know heavy specifics of a US weapon variant that's been deployed a couple years, as well as vice versa, you're underestimating major powers intelligence capabilities.

It's the intelligence fuck ups that always get published, same with plane crash disasters or ship sinking disasters.

 

[Cycleye]

Has just been brought to my attention that this coming saturday is that fucking awful cringefest, Eurovision. It should've stopped in the ABBA years as it is just a shitshow of talentless degenerates now and corrupt as fuck. Any other year is bad enough but this year is going to be sick making with the support for Ukraine, that will be on display. I hope some renegade exists doing the scoreboard graphics and throws up a bunch of pics with ukrainians being all nazi and celebrating Bandera.

 

[Hell on Earth]

Still just an improved version of an over two decade old weapon that's been deployed for a few years. If you don't think the Russians and the Chinese don't know heavy specifics of a US weapon variant that's been deployed a couple years, as well as vice versa, you're underestimating major powers intelligence capabilities.

It's the intelligence fuck ups that always get published, same with plane crash disasters or ship sinking disasters.

I swear these extremely expensive and highly specialized militaries will make war between great powers a lot shorter.

The planning for war will be insanely complicated since everyone doesn't want to lose their expensive toys, just like how the Germans and the British didn't want to risk their dreadnoughts in destructive battles.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Has just been brought to my attention that this coming saturday is that fucking awful cringefest, Eurovision. It should've stopped in the ABBA years as it is just a shitshow of talentless degenerates now and corrupt as fuck. Any other year is bad enough but this year is going to be sick making with the support for Ukraine, that will be on display. I hope some renegade exists doing the scoreboard graphics and throws up a bunch of pics with ukrainians being all nazi and celebrating Bandera.

Why would you watch that gay shit when there are hours of new drone footage of tanks and shit getting blown up every night?

 

[Garm]

Azov published a bunch of photos from beneath Azovstal. They come with a message.

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Azovstal: 21-year-old Ekaterina "Bird" told on video that she would "shoot through the knees of everyone who said she would die; she would survive everyone else" and "Mariupol, Ukraine-forever."

This is a rather specific threat.
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On the one hand, if I was down there I would probably found some way to die just so it would end.

On the other hand, how much sympathy can one have for people who looked at the Soviet knock off of a Vault-Tec vault and said "excellent"?

 

[mr.moon1488]

If this is true, which I'd wager it is, this is just sick and these neo-con faggots should hang.

 

[IKOL]

I will take the one that wont be shot.

For real, I dont even understand the reasoning. Both russian and ukrainian women were some of the prettiest I ever saw. You cant tell them from eachother.

Because they are pretty much the same in most. Because, you know, they are Slavic... period.

I'm sure there must be satellite images of those mountains of corpses...

That'd be a very wishful thinking for ukrainebros. But oh well, no images of such things, no atter how hard I tried to look in. Even DarkNet don't have any. #UkraineWinning

Next you're going to tell me they are building a skull throne for Khorne

We have it already. IN HALF A DOZEN QTY.

If you cannot distinguish between their races by their anatomical features-you are the autistic communist furby-a synonim for nazi troll bot, a dead brain mutant whose life is less valuable then oak-tree because your purpose is to mislead.

Okay, who let minors to register and shit in threads again?

May 9 will always be remembered as the day when Biden signed lend lease act to save Ukraine from the russian nazists/imperialists/communist christians

You mean, when he literally sold them out to russkies though literal admitting they sponsor this war, now in the open. Okie.

Frens, I’ve been away from this thread and our fun shitposting/informative-posting (due to real life, the “abortion fracas” in America, and other YouTube lolcow retardation (long story)). How is the not-war in wheat-land and Slava-derps going?

@Feline Supremacist @Spicey McHaggis @kuuu cat frens and other cool people — the thread is still alive and you’re being cool so I assume we’re mostly okay?

Hi there, all's fine, it's good to know you're okay too.

Meanwhile on the Russia/Ukraine border northeast of Kahrkiv....
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Never gets old

 

[Josterman]

If this is true, which I'd wager it is, this is just sick and these neo-con faggots should hang.

They should hang

 

[Deadman]

Legit or just plain bullshit? You be the judge.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I meant it as getting hands on an actual launcher and missile and working on countermeasures on it, and yeah, I agree. System is way too expensive for russians to try and reproduce.

I think they might be more useful as anti tank weapons. Russian inventory has taken a beating, may as well top up any way they can. There's gonna be tanks heading towards Russian/DPR positions sooner or later. In this war, or the next one.

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For Putin, this war is everything, so he's going to pull out. - the things you learn on Twitter.

It's true that the US can make money printer go brrr longer than Russia can fund its war effort, but Europe can't afford a long war. It's economy is already under huge strain, and Euro participation is necessary to NATO's proxy war effort. And, while Ukie resistance has been impressive, there's only so much death and destruction a country can or should take. Easy for Western faggots to encourage Ukies to get their limbs blown off and their infrastructure to get bombed forever, but what's in it for Ukraine?

Donbass has been threatening to turn into a full scale battle for weeks. Assume it happens, and Russia wins, then declares "victory" and sits behind its new borders. What does Ukraine gain from continuing to throw men at the line of contact? That just means more body bags and more missile strikes on western Ukraine.

Unless the mythical Ukie master plan to drive out the Russians turns out to be real, and it doesn't look that way - at some point they're gonna have to figure out a way to get back to some kind of normal life unless they plan on being Slavic Somalia.

 

[Josterman]

I think they might be more useful as anti tank weapons. Russian inventory has taken a beating, may as well top up any way they can. There's gonna be tanks heading towards Russian/DPR positions sooner or later. In this war, or the next one.

For Putin, this war is everything, so he's going to pull out. - the things you learn on Twitter.

It's true that the US can make money printer go brrr longer than Russia can fund its war effort, but Europe can't afford a long war. It's economy is already under huge strain, and Euro participation is necessary to NATO's proxy war effort. And, while Ukie resistance has been impressive, there's only so much death and destruction a country can or should take. Easy for Western faggots to encourage Ukies to get their limbs blown off and their infrastructure to get bombed forever, but what's in it for Ukraine?

Donbass has been threatening to turn into a full scale battle for weeks. Assume it happens, and Russia wins, then declares "victory" and sits behind its new borders. What does Ukraine gain from continuing to throw men at the line of contact? That just means more body bags and more missile strikes on western Ukraine.

Unless the mythical Ukie master plan to drive out the Russians turns out to be real, and it doesn't look that way - at some point they're gonna have to figure out a way to get back to some kind of normal life unless they plan on being Slavic Somalia.

Funny thing about AHH he took a L for falling for propaganda

 

[Wrangel1926]

I think i figured out Putins master plan. He is prolonging the war on purpose so that NATO countries go broke sending all their money and weapons to 70 max IQ hohols.

It might not be the primary focus, but it could potentially provide a decent reason to delay substantial advances, manpower and material concerns notwithstanding. The more higher-tech or modernized equipment with diminished production facilities that makes its way into the hands of unfamiliarized and potentially lesser-trained Ukrainian soldiers or territorial defense forces, the less in the hands of NATO for reserves if they decide to redline and say "fuck it" and the more it's going to cost them to replace the stockpiles (With the added bonus of said equipment being more easily captured). In many ways, war is more often than not a matter of economics rather than "my tank has a higher fire rate and better main armament than your tank", which is why despite Japan winning stunning victories during the Russo-Japanese War, over 40% of their expenditures were funded by foreign loans and the government was on the razor's edge of bankruptcy.

The current situation sees the West in particular in a position that, to quote Hirohito, has not necessarily developed in their favor. Sure, they can look good to an electorate that just a few weeks ago was demanding direct intervention due to low-information knowledge of what terms like "No-fly-zone" actually mean and entail by shipping off their weapon reserves to Ukrainian troops (An electorate that has a not-insignificant portion that still thinks $500 million USD daily isn't enough when Israel manages to make a week's worth of that usually stretch an entire year, mind you). Yes, it means that the defense companies and ministries of defense that manufacture those weapons can get some form of combat effectiveness report out of it. Yes, it even means that the newer and further East members of NATO can get the carrot of shiny new jets backfilled airspace protection by other countries if they give their Warsaw-Pact leftovers to the Ukrainians. However, all of this comes at a cost. These reserves oftentimes took years or even decades to fill, and the manufacturing capability to either refill or replace them with newer equipment was usually either designed with those reserves still existing in mind or were dramatically scaled back as large-scale armed conflict seemed to be a shrinking memory; furthermore seeing decreases as the concerns of other political parties and demographics such as state welfare became increasingly prominent, but needed areas to trim expenses from to avoid tax increases.

Rearmament IS possible, but it's going to come at a cost no matter what course of action is undertaken: Be it spending years without significant reserves and the security it provides; Cutting back on domestic expenditures such as social/welfare programs, with all the likely massive backlash such a move would incur politically (An option many ruling coalitions such as the SPD in Germany or opposition groups can't afford); Raising taxes to afford current government expenditure and additional funding for the military, an option that'll more than likely grow more unpopular over time as people realize the economic costs once any initial "Backfilling Building up our national defense!" popularity wears off (Which could shoot more pacifist parties in the foot); or just attempting to return back to the stance of the '70's by asking for America to deploy more troops for who knows how long, which might see nationalist parties/elements become more popular (Not to mention that America doesn't have this option).

Of course, that's not even going into some level of detail about all the other underlying related issues that are at play here, including if such policies are even going to be feasible considering the inflation, price hikes, and shortages that have been omnipresent for years now, or if continuing support is going to be popular if a sort of "Afghanistan effect" takes place, that is to say reports of donated equipment being captured repeatedly and in not-insignificant numbers demoralizing the public.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

There’s unconfirmed reports that the Ukrainians pushed the Russians back across the border around Kharkiv. Most likely due to Staryi Saltiv falling. It’s Kiev all over again.

 

[kuuu]

El oh el.

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Ukrainian soldiers are confirming the myth about stolen washing mashines.

Why one would keep a conventional washing machine in the trenches is beyond me.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

It might not be the primary focus, but it could potentially provide a decent reason to delay substantial advances, manpower and material concerns notwithstanding. The more higher-tech or modernized equipment with diminished production facilities that makes its way into the hands of unfamiliarized and potentially lesser-trained Ukrainian soldiers or territorial defense forces, the less in the hands of NATO for reserves if they decide to redline and say "fuck it" and the more it's going to cost them to replace the stockpiles (With the added bonus of said equipment being more easily captured). In many ways, war is more often than not a matter of economics rather than "my tank has a higher fire rate and better main armament than your tank", which is why despite Japan winning stunning victories during the Russo-Japanese War, over 40% of their expenditures were funded by foreign loans and the government was on the razor's edge of bankruptcy.

The current situation sees the West in particular in a position that, to quote Hirohito, has not necessarily developed in their favor. Sure, they can look good to an electorate that just a few weeks ago was demanding direct intervention due to low-information knowledge of what terms like "No-fly-zone" actually mean and entail by shipping off their weapon reserves to Ukrainian troops (An electorate that has a not-insignificant portion that still thinks $500 million USD daily isn't enough when Israel manages to make a week's worth of that usually stretch an entire year, mind you). Yes, it means that the defense companies and ministries of defense that manufacture those weapons can get some form of combat effectiveness report out of it. Yes, it even means that the newer and further East members of NATO can get the carrot of shiny new jets backfilled airspace protection by other countries if they give their Warsaw-Pact leftovers to the Ukrainians. However, all of this comes at a cost. These reserves oftentimes took years or even decades to fill, and the manufacturing capability to either refill or replace them with newer equipment was usually either designed with those reserves still existing in mind or were dramatically scaled back as large-scale armed conflict seemed to be a shrinking memory; furthermore seeing decreases as the concerns of other political parties and demographics such as state welfare became increasingly prominent, but needed areas to trim expenses from to avoid tax increases.

Rearmament IS possible, but it's going to come at a cost no matter what course of action is undertaken: Be it spending years without significant reserves and the security it provides; Cutting back on domestic expenditures such as social/welfare programs, with all the likely massive backlash such a move would incur politically (An option many ruling coalitions such as the SPD in Germany or opposition groups can't afford); Raising taxes to afford current government expenditure and additional funding for the military, an option that'll more than likely grow more unpopular over time as people realize the economic costs once any initial "Backfilling Building up our national defense!" popularity wears off (Which could shoot more pacifist parties in the foot); or just attempting to return back to the stance of the '70's by asking for America to deploy more troops for who knows how long, which might see nationalist parties/elements become more popular (Not to mention that America doesn't have this option).

Of course, that's not even going into some level of detail about all the other underlying related issues that are at play here, including if such policies are even going to be feasible considering the inflation, price hikes, and shortages that have been omnipresent for years now, or if continuing support is going to be popular if a sort of "Afghanistan effect" takes place, that is to say reports of donated equipment being captured repeatedly and in not-insignificant numbers demoralizing the public.

People like to claim Reagan beat the USSR via outspending them on defense and in their effort to keep pace they bankrupted themselves. Of course it's more nuanced than that, but your post is 100% on point.

Putler might break NATO by just playing the long game.